Forumer you are complaining against: kian88

Item being sold: Samsung Galaxy S II GT-I9100 SME <HERE>

Original thread link: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2374420

Date of transaction: 6 June 2012

Details of the complaint :

1. Things forummer should now before anything else:
1.1 I have a bad experience with kian88 before for a swap deal, he can't come to my place for COD & I'm not willing to go to his place. We have war of words in WhatsApp & LYN pms...
1.2 I, in any way never told kian88 my name, my acc num & other unnecessary details in view that the deal with him only via COD

Allow me to put this in point mode
2. 9:59am : I put my phone for bidding, clearly stated few rules for buyers to consider before bidding for it. Below are important rules:
2.1. COD strictly @ my place around SEC14 PJ, KL (KERAMAT,WANGSA MAJU area) if not, PLEASE DO NOT BID!
2.2. BID END @ 4PM TODAY 6/6/2012 according to LYN TIME!

3. 3:22pm : kian88 post in my thread asking this "what the highest bidding now? 1K?"
(clearly he didn't read my thread throughly...thats why he asked.)

4. 3:33pm : he put a bid rm 1030 (highest at that moment)

5. 3:40pm : I directly post in my thread to remind him about the rules 2.1 above by saying "bro, cod at my place...pls make sure u can come. last time u cannot..."

6. 3:43pm : kian88 post a reply "sure can make sure no one offer higher then 1030 lol" (it shows he agree with my aforementioned rules)

7. 3:48pm : in response to his post, I wrote "that one i cant help bro...but again, pls make sure u can come for COD, that's all i want. thanks"

8. 3:55pm : kian88 put another bid with "rm 1060"

9. 4:03pm : times running out & I post in my thread in response to kian88 rm1060 bid saying "Congrats bro...i think u won. Lemme know when u plan to cod with me."

10. 4:05pm : kian88 still continue with fresh bid "rm 1080 last price" to counter few other forummers who also didn't read my post throughly

11. 4:06pm : I post a response to other forummer bid "Sorry bro...too late.closed at 4pm..fair to others. I'l cntact u if buyer ffk. Thanks"

12. 4:07pm : kian88 posted ">m< hope the buyer ffk" even he himself was the highest bidder before 4pm & also at the current time, which was invalid since the bid already ends. (kian88 still not aware of that 4pm bid closing time, even after few reminder post I gave in my thread)

13. 4:13pm : kian88 posted "wondering who the lucky guy here" (he still not aware...this time I started to smells something fishy..or maybe he's stupid)

14. 4:15pm : I responded to kian88 post "bidding closed at 4pm la bro...u won d...haiyya..." (now, I knew he will ffk me because he didn't read my posts clearly & failed to understand the simple aforementioned rules.

15. 4:16pm : finally kian88 realized when he posted "sure a m I lol. yeah finally got this unit. PM me ur details pls" (frustration & my suspicion towards him goes up when he asked my details...no one should not asked for somebody's details for COD deals)

16. 4:19pm : I responded "haish...why need details anymore...stated d in my 1st post..now come cod @ my place la...or gimme ur plan on how to deal. i knew u have my num." (yes, I have his num from previous not-materialize deal)

17. 4:24pm : kian88 posted "Nope dun have ur number.Give me again pls"

18. 4:25pm : I sent him a pm (attached below)

19. 4:28pm : I posted "reply my pm lah. im have bad feeling now...i can call it off anytime"

20. 4:39pm : kian88 replied my pm with "where to collect ur number pls?" (kian88 took more than 10minutes to respond even he is active in forum)

21. 4:40pm : kian88 posted this in my thread "replied. please check only able cod on weekend here" (now he started throwing the darts...). I replied kian88 pm by providing my num.

22. 4:42pm : kian88 asked for my name thru pm

23. 4:43pm : I replied back "why did u need my name?now can u please answer my simple question, can u come deal with me or not?or gimme ur plan of COD."

24. 4:43pm : kian88 sent me a pm "cod at one utama this friday call me 0163605430 kian" (now he clearly failed to understand the rules & have broken it)

25. 4:45pm : in frustration I replied "ok. deal is off." (I don't think it will work out between us, given the previous issue we faced)

26. 4:46pm : kian88's replied "haha deal is off because of?i can transfer money to ur bank account to secure the deal bro"

27. 4:48pm : I responded "i dont need a deposit. go play around somewhere else"

28. 4:49pm : kian88 replied "hahah i will report u" (but until now kian88 still haven't report me...because he was the guilty party & got no prove at all)

29. 4:50pm : I replied back "do it. i got all the bullets for counter attack. u can go to police if u want"

Then it started going worse when kian88 started hijacking my threads, throwing baseless claim & fabricating stories that I've cheated him & ran away with his deposit. kian88 even provide fabricated bank transfer to fool Mods, stained my reputation & also stained other's reputation when he deliberately & sarcastically using somebody else acc num & full name. I felt pity to that guy...he got nothing to do with this.

I'm filing this report to warn other forumer to avoid dealing with kian88 in anyway given that he was a big time FFKer...a cheater & a psycho. I believe kian88 in various thread requesting other forumer personal details to fabricated stories & claimed others conned him, like what had happened to me.

I hereby request LYN Mods to take appropriate action againts kian88, or banned kian88 for life to protect fellow forummers. Lowyat don't need this kind of people.

the fabricated bank transfer (I purposely censored the beneficiary acc# & acc holder's name. 'From Account' censored by kian88 himself). If Mods need more details, please let me know...I'll not provide any unnecessary info to anybody else.


This post has been edited by realcheraz: Jun 7 2012, 12:31 PM

Wow, that was an epic one, have you asked him to come here for further explanation?

You can sue him for libel if this was real man.

Yeah...pretty epic and desperate one i guess. I did, quite num of times gave him link to this thread...till now he dont even hv the balls thd come explain n defend himself. I posted a comments all over his thread to warn others...

I knew i can sue him if i want..the guy who own the acc num may also sue him for defamation. But all i want is mods to permaband this fella b4 he did anything worse. I already asked for mods assistance.

Lol who ffk u at the first place
Mr telco
U ffk me for 1st deal regard your trade white note with mine one x
Whn ppl offer u higher u ffk ppl nw u accuse me lol
I still remember u the one teach me to check imei for sme

Still doesn't explain why you framing him with a fabricated bank account number, unless you telling us that this is real deal, then it will be a different story.

He opt not to deal with you and being so cautious, there must be something happened in the past or he won't respond to you this way.

kian88 and realcheraz i offer to help u both to cod...in return i just charege rm20 excluding toll n fuel surcharge.

I think he purposely joybid n ffk me bcoz the prev deal that was not materialize coz both party not willig to go to meet each others. Its not ffk case since u dont even come to see me n no agreement has taken place.

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Added on June 7, 2012, 11:02 pmTell me why i should deal with bad people?if he had ur acc n details he may fabricate story that u cheated n conned him using the same way. Check my successful deals..mostly cod..no issue with that. With him i hv to take a precationary measures to avoid loss on my side.

Anyway, thanks for the offer

This post has been edited by realcheraz: Jun 7 2012, 11:05 PM

First of all m doing this as I need to let go mine own gadget
2nd I am not a trader here
This Mr telco just update ur trade list on Jun and if u can pls update the day u started ur trade
I personally knw the right as a forumer here and the policy as a telco staff
no need open few account to test market and ask ppl offer higher
While I am selling mine phone u try to offer me Lowe price
Funny little Malay telco guy
Call u for cod u said u busy as well
Now u try said I ffk u
Come n sue me since u got mine name
Or make a police report pls I am willing to accept it
One more thing this abang kononnye got 2 wife here
said i am lonely can only play with gadget
eventually got a friend knw him personally
a malay girl friend here said he cheated his $ shall i expose her personal details too?
Interested please PM for those ex girlfriend he cheated before

This post has been edited by kian88: Jun 8 2012, 02:48 AM

Don't be so racist please by using Malay as an example. You can discuss with him but just don't use any racist insults. It's just wrong to use a race to scold people.
"Do not spread political propaganda, racial vilification or religious hatred or contempt anywhere in the forums." - Rules and Regulations.

Sorry as i need to off mine number just because of someone keep txt me with nonsense msg non stop

I wish u are in good mental state today...

im not interested to talk about our deals (not even a deals actually) anymore, be it the prev or the latesst one. All I need to know now is WHY DID U FABRICATED A BANK TRANSFER TO SOMEONE ELSE ACC & TELLING PEOPLE THAT I'VE CHEATED U RM100?

Sadly, instead of explaining ur con job to me and fellow forummer, again u fabricate stories, that:
1. I have a dupe...If I do, files a complaints againts me. I believe Mods will take appropriate action.
2. I've cheated a GIRL?which was my EX-GIRLFRIEND?wow!now, all of sudden I have an EX-GIRLFRIEND!I u dare, ask her to come & file a complaint againts me...just make sure u fabricate it wisely.

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Added on June 8, 2012, 10:18 amdon't try to change topic...you should explain why you are so racist. nobody asked about your damn phone.

This post has been edited by realcheraz: Jun 8 2012, 10:18 AM

you are good in it knowledge
while i am good in IT and legal both
so continue standing at ur kiosk and see who will be the winner
please send me ur official lawyer to me and i will file a case for this
thanks for promotion u created and i can easy let go mine gadget more faster then u couldnt imagine

answer the question will you?

haha
neither would you

I will...once you filed a report againts me... so bring it on...

NOW THIS FELLA REQUESTED MODS TO BAN HIM...WOOO....






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Mr freaky
i am out for mine appoinment
continue stand at ur kiosk okay

this case most like is FFK case not dispute case ...

must be an appointment with psychiatrist...get well soon.

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Added on June 8, 2012, 11:26 amyes, it was an ffk case..but kian88 accused me cheating his me with a fabricated bank transfer to somebody else account. then what case is this?
A CON JOB!

This post has been edited by realcheraz: Jun 8 2012, 11:26 AM

yes,he didnt explain about the fabricated bank tansfer and changed the topic to divert ppl attention.dun waste ur time entertaining him.other ppl who read this thread surely can tell that there is something wrong with this kian88.

dun put urself down at his level.let him be.let him insult his intelligence alone:)

Latest update I am meeting a guy at empire nw..
Come and meet me if I am the ffk guy as u accused