Forumer you are complaining against: kian88

Item being sold: Samsung Galaxy S II GT-I9100 SME <HERE>

Original thread link: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2374420

Date of transaction: 6 June 2012

Details of the complaint :

1. Things forummer should now before anything else:
1.1 I have a bad experience with kian88 before for a swap deal, he can't come to my place for COD & I'm not willing to go to his place. We have war of words in WhatsApp & LYN pms...
1.2 I, in any way never told kian88 my name, my acc num & other unnecessary details in view that the deal with him only via COD

Allow me to put this in point mode
2. 9:59am : I put my phone for bidding, clearly stated few rules for buyers to consider before bidding for it. Below are important rules:
2.1. COD strictly @ my place around SEC14 PJ, KL (KERAMAT,WANGSA MAJU area) if not, PLEASE DO NOT BID!
2.2. BID END @ 4PM TODAY 6/6/2012 according to LYN TIME!

3. 3:22pm : kian88 post in my thread asking this "what the highest bidding now? 1K?"
(clearly he didn't read my thread throughly...thats why he asked.)

4. 3:33pm : he put a bid rm 1030 (highest at that moment)

5. 3:40pm : I directly post in my thread to remind him about the rules 2.1 above by saying "bro, cod at my place...pls make sure u can come. last time u cannot..."

6. 3:43pm : kian88 post a reply "sure can make sure no one offer higher then 1030 lol" (it shows he agree with my aforementioned rules)

7. 3:48pm : in response to his post, I wrote "that one i cant help bro...but again, pls make sure u can come for COD, that's all i want. thanks"

8. 3:55pm : kian88 put another bid with "rm 1060"

9. 4:03pm : times running out & I post in my thread in response to kian88 rm1060 bid saying "Congrats bro...i think u won. Lemme know when u plan to cod with me."

10. 4:05pm : kian88 still continue with fresh bid "rm 1080 last price" to counter few other forummers who also didn't read my post throughly

11. 4:06pm : I post a response to other forummer bid "Sorry bro...too late.closed at 4pm..fair to others. I'l cntact u if buyer ffk. Thanks"

12. 4:07pm : kian88 posted ">m< hope the buyer ffk" even he himself was the highest bidder before 4pm & also at the current time, which was invalid since the bid already ends. (kian88 still not aware of that 4pm bid closing time, even after few reminder post I gave in my thread)

13. 4:13pm : kian88 posted "wondering who the lucky guy here" (he still not aware...this time I started to smells something fishy..or maybe he's stupid)

14. 4:15pm : I responded to kian88 post "bidding closed at 4pm la bro...u won d...haiyya..." (now, I knew he will ffk me because he didn't read my posts clearly & failed to understand the simple aforementioned rules.

15. 4:16pm : finally kian88 realized when he posted "sure a m I lol. yeah finally got this unit. PM me ur details pls" (frustration & my suspicion towards him goes up when he asked my details...no one should not asked for somebody's details for COD deals)

16. 4:19pm : I responded "haish...why need details anymore...stated d in my 1st post..now come cod @ my place la...or gimme ur plan on how to deal. i knew u have my num." (yes, I have his num from previous not-materialize deal)

17. 4:24pm : kian88 posted "Nope dun have ur number.Give me again pls"

18. 4:25pm : I sent him a pm (attached below)

19. 4:28pm : I posted "reply my pm lah. im have bad feeling now...i can call it off anytime"

20. 4:39pm : kian88 replied my pm with "where to collect ur number pls?" (kian88 took more than 10minutes to respond even he is active in forum)

21. 4:40pm : kian88 posted this in my thread "replied. please check only able cod on weekend here" (now he started throwing the darts...). I replied kian88 pm by providing my num.

22. 4:42pm : kian88 asked for my name thru pm

23. 4:43pm : I replied back "why did u need my name?now can u please answer my simple question, can u come deal with me or not?or gimme ur plan of COD."

24. 4:43pm : kian88 sent me a pm "cod at one utama this friday call me 0163605430 kian" (now he clearly failed to understand the rules & have broken it)

25. 4:45pm : in frustration I replied "ok. deal is off." (I don't think it will work out between us, given the previous issue we faced)

26. 4:46pm : kian88's replied "haha deal is off because of?i can transfer money to ur bank account to secure the deal bro"

27. 4:48pm : I responded "i dont need a deposit. go play around somewhere else"

28. 4:49pm : kian88 replied "hahah i will report u" (but until now kian88 still haven't report me...because he was the guilty party & got no prove at all)

29. 4:50pm : I replied back "do it. i got all the bullets for counter attack. u can go to police if u want"

Then it started going worse when kian88 started hijacking my threads, throwing baseless claim & fabricating stories that I've cheated him & ran away with his deposit. kian88 even provide fabricated bank transfer to fool Mods, stained my reputation & also stained other's reputation when he deliberately & sarcastically using somebody else acc num & full name. I felt pity to that guy...he got nothing to do with this.

I'm filing this report to warn other forumer to avoid dealing with kian88 in anyway given that he was a big time FFKer...a cheater & a psycho. I believe kian88 in various thread requesting other forumer personal details to fabricated stories & claimed others conned him, like what had happened to me.

I hereby request LYN Mods to take appropriate action againts kian88, or banned kian88 for life to protect fellow forummers. Lowyat don't need this kind of people.

the fabricated bank transfer (I purposely censored the beneficiary acc# & acc holder's name. 'From Account' censored by kian88 himself). If Mods need more details, please let me know...I'll not provide any unnecessary info to anybody else.


This post has been edited by realcheraz: Jun 7 2012, 12:31 PM

Yeah...pretty epic and desperate one i guess. I did, quite num of times gave him link to this thread...till now he dont even hv the balls thd come explain n defend himself. I posted a comments all over his thread to warn others...

I knew i can sue him if i want..the guy who own the acc num may also sue him for defamation. But all i want is mods to permaband this fella b4 he did anything worse. I already asked for mods assistance.

I think he purposely joybid n ffk me bcoz the prev deal that was not materialize coz both party not willig to go to meet each others. Its not ffk case since u dont even come to see me n no agreement has taken place.

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Added on June 7, 2012, 11:02 pmTell me why i should deal with bad people?if he had ur acc n details he may fabricate story that u cheated n conned him using the same way. Check my successful deals..mostly cod..no issue with that. With him i hv to take a precationary measures to avoid loss on my side.

Anyway, thanks for the offer

This post has been edited by realcheraz: Jun 7 2012, 11:05 PM

I wish u are in good mental state today...

im not interested to talk about our deals (not even a deals actually) anymore, be it the prev or the latesst one. All I need to know now is WHY DID U FABRICATED A BANK TRANSFER TO SOMEONE ELSE ACC & TELLING PEOPLE THAT I'VE CHEATED U RM100?

Sadly, instead of explaining ur con job to me and fellow forummer, again u fabricate stories, that:
1. I have a dupe...If I do, files a complaints againts me. I believe Mods will take appropriate action.
2. I've cheated a GIRL?which was my EX-GIRLFRIEND?wow!now, all of sudden I have an EX-GIRLFRIEND!I u dare, ask her to come & file a complaint againts me...just make sure u fabricate it wisely.

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Added on June 8, 2012, 10:18 amdon't try to change topic...you should explain why you are so racist. nobody asked about your damn phone.

This post has been edited by realcheraz: Jun 8 2012, 10:18 AM

answer the question will you?

I will...once you filed a report againts me... so bring it on...

NOW THIS FELLA REQUESTED MODS TO BAN HIM...WOOO....






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must be an appointment with psychiatrist...get well soon.

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Added on June 8, 2012, 11:26 amyes, it was an ffk case..but kian88 accused me cheating his me with a fabricated bank transfer to somebody else account. then what case is this?
A CON JOB!

This post has been edited by realcheraz: Jun 8 2012, 11:26 AM

thanks for the support
anyhow i'll do this to protect other forumers.

thats why I wanted mods to ban him for good...

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Added on June 8, 2012, 6:17 pmyes, he did. in a way he also accused that poor guy Azni a cheater...till now kian88 got no balls to explain or to defend himself, just changing topic & fabricate one story to another...i guess he was mentally unstable.

This post has been edited by realcheraz: Jun 8 2012, 06:17 PM

Thanks munkeyflo & Uchicha_Itachi1991 for the support. U both got what i meant by posting this thread.

kian88 himself knew why i posted this. He just have no excuse nor concrete reason to answer me. I personally think he should be stop trading here...i can see him requesting forumers personal details for no reason in various thread..he also selling razr with diff imei number than what is stated in warranty card n he claimed the razr still under warranty,which is wrong. A forumer pm n told me about this.at the end,he closed thread.

:ignoring you:
Lol

Now, everyone is me...

If its true he gave all the details to mods, i believe to Apis_LuaLua..since Apis was the 1st mod who knew it. I also sent a pm to Apis request for his help..he did delete few ridiculous post by kian88 on my thread. Looking at the situation now i strongly doubt that kian88 gave the details...simply bcoz he didnt hv it. As simple as that.

Yes im telling the truth but i never ran away with ur money coz i never took it. Logically, if i did took ur money...and u want it back, should u give me ur acc num and details?till now u never provide it to me...pretty weird isn't it?

I cant stop laughing here...pretty funny this boy. So sorry bro...i was bad at fabricating a bank transfer. Why dont u do it for me?

I do hv pb acc...but i believe it has been terminated since i left it dormant for quite sometimes d..

Btw, as i said before..the bank tranfer kian88 gave is to someone else account..not mine. Apis_LuaLua told me that he knew that Azni...till now im little bit blank why still no action taken by mods...frankly im little bit frustrated here.

Understood that. Thanks for reminding me. Im thinking of MAYBE (which ever) mods who received anything from kian88 as he claimed...to come and say something.

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Added on June 9, 2012, 9:45 pmi think he took bank acc# 162496004786 details from google...i searched & found it in lelong here...

http://www.lelong.com.my/blackberry-pearl-...9-07-Sale-P.htm

thanks man...

Above was my pm to mods about the bank he used..its maybank,not pb...the acc holder's name also there n again..it wasnt me.

This post has been edited by realcheraz: Jun 9 2012, 09:45 PM

Here u go...any comment?


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U r too stupid to understand...pity u.
1. U asked for my mbb acc...
2. I dont hv pb acc
3. U transfered the money to a MAYBANK ACC lah
4. U retarded. Lol

Now u only realized its was a MAYBANK acc?lol.why u so stupid?
another thing,tomorow is sunday...bank close.lol stupid episode 2.
In case u really bank in to that guy name azni, u r stupid episode 3.lol

as i said b4 in pm...u can always report me in...to mods or even police.or maybe the simplest thing,tell us how u get that maybank num?with proof...if thru sms..give us snapshot.from what num?if from pm..give snapshot from who. I am helping u now..coz i know u'll come out with stupid episode 4.lol