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 (True 4G) LTE 100-150Mbps 2013-2014 Malaysia V1, LTE is going to replace 3G in future

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post Jun 12 2012, 06:01 AM

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QUOTE(stevenlee @ Jun 11 2012, 06:33 PM)
lol maxis LTE peak download @ 104mbps in thier trial in 2010

http://www.maxis.com.my/mmc/index.asp?fuse....view&recID=460
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during Trail yes, official launch time if can hit 42Mbps, consider bonus already , afraid those are only dream, as fast u can go, when quota finish, u get same capped 128Kbps or 64Kbps shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(chuahcs79 @ Jun 12 2012, 06:01 AM)
during Trail yes, official launch time if can hit 42Mbps, consider bonus already , afraid those are only dream, as fast u can go, when quota finish, u get same capped 128Kbps or 64Kbps  shakehead.gif
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i wont think will be cap that low ...as long as it cap around 512kbps or 1mbps that still good drool.gif
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QUOTE(stevenlee @ Jun 13 2012, 12:57 PM)
i wont think will be cap that low ...as long as it cap around 512kbps or 1mbps that still good  drool.gif
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i am very sure the cap is same 128 or 64, u can refer to many LTE 4G country, many of them capped 128Kbps, ha ha,. dont dream too high icon_idea.gif

as none of malaysia ISP is that generous from what i recalled, even p1 capped at 400Kbps last time and change to 128Kbps without any notice at all,

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[quote=shawn87,Jun 9 2012, 06:03 PM]
[quote=coolstore,Jun 9 2012, 01:18 PM]
LTE radio frequency band by ipad is 700MHz sth like that, they are built in mind for US LTE users, not cater for asia. unless got other ipad LTE stock version.

ALL wireless technology use radio frequency band to transmit data.

just imagine radio, you tune to wrong frequency, u cannot get to the desired radio station .

imported car from japan using different freq also.. but yet still can receive local station
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Car radio, e.g. FM Radio, is a quite standard range, 87.5 to 108.0 MHz
Japan FM is 76–90 MHz, unless the car-radio HU is designed for international market, which supports the full frequency range.

What LTE in US now is 700MHz. The most likely LTE in MY/SG is 2.6GHZ (2600MHz).
This is totally out-of-tune, chicken-and-duck talk, frequency is totally different, hence cannot communicate.

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post Jun 14 2012, 10:12 AM

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I think they will capped at higher speed if they afford to handle the volume of the traffic.

But i believe they don't afford to provide it.
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post Jun 14 2012, 11:18 AM

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128kbps is the highest possibility

just u-mobile please don't enforce 64kbps like in their 3G that is really sickening...

see later singapore signtel, starhub cap at how much
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post Jun 14 2012, 12:39 PM

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I rather stick with EDGE, lucky my social app/IM does not require highspeed. Most telco sell data by volume, not speed. Speed is just marketing gimmick. 32/8*3600*24=345.6MB per day
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any celcom insider here who already grab the 'celcom LTE plan and pricing" ?
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post Jun 19 2012, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jun 7 2012, 04:22 PM)
MALAYSIA style:
LTE 4G with 1GB data limit. After exceed, throttle to 56kbps. sweat.gif

Welcome to Boleh land thumbup.gif
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haiyaa.other countries also like that.just look at AT&t and Verizon wireless.@Gb for about RM80.kalau tak silap la

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these 2 carriers in USA.country that has widest LTE coverage throughout the nation rclxms.gif


Added on June 19, 2012, 5:49 pmbtw,why not suggest to those telco,introduce plan with unlimited quota..for pricing ranging from rm300 to rm400 considered good enough alreday smile.gif

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yesterday star paper biz section got latest news on LTE 2.6GHz matter, it said MCMC may not allocate 2.6GHz to all the 9 telcos that promised to last time...

go read it...

i guess the smaller telco may not get, need to lease from others.

in case Digi not allocated the band (as if the same happening to 3G license last time)... wau that will be ....
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QUOTE(coolstore @ Jun 22 2012, 02:03 PM)
yesterday star paper biz section got latest news on LTE 2.6GHz matter, it said MCMC may not allocate 2.6GHz to all the 9 telcos that promised to last time...

go read it... 

i guess the smaller telco may not get, need to lease from others.

in case Digi not allocated the band (as if the same happening to 3G license last time)... wau that will be ....
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oh crap, there will be no tomorrow's network rclxub.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(coolstore @ Jun 6 2012, 12:13 PM)
LTE 2013 Malaysia discussion v1 (true 4G)

Opening this thread for catering queries and discussion about LTE 4G technology in Malaysia soon.

Same as other countries in the world, Malaysia is going to embrace LTE true 4G next year 2013 onwards.
just 6 month to go from now, it will come very soon. so good to understand a bit now..

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LTE - What about?
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LTE stands for (Long Term Evolution)
that going to replace 3G (WCDMA, HSDPA, HSPA+...) in due time.
LTE Speed:
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Technically LTE downloading speed can reaching 300Mbps max by using MIMO technology.
Malaysia initially should be running at 100Mbps ~ 150Mbps peak, this also if under ideal condition. tongue.gif
For practical result we can refers to other countries existing LTE users feedbacks, that will be more realistic.

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LTE Frequency band:
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For Malaysia, LTE band will be running at 2600MHz (main band) + 1800MHz (supplemantary band? to be confirmed later time)

note:
* Unlike 3G, LTE frequency band adoption is quite diversed by different country/region in the world.
There are 2600MHz, 2300MHz, 2100MHz, 1800MHz, 1700/2100MHz, 1700MHz, 1500MHz, 900MHz, 800MHz, 700MHz.

From Yahoo: Singapore Singtel & M1 also confirmed using 2600MHz + 1800MHz for their LTE (neighborhood countries mah, and telco here got partnership/share holding at there, so must be compatible)

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Malaysia LTE telco provider:
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MCMC already assigned spectrum of 2600MHz to 9 local telcos, ie next year there should be having 9 telco offering LTE plan (if no delayed like the wimax scenario)!

1) Maxis (getting 20MHz)
2) Celcom (getting 20MHz)
3) Digi (getting 20MHz)
4) U-mobile (getting 20MHz)
5) P1 (getting 20MHz)
6) YTL (getting 20MHz)
7) Redtone (getting 20MHz)
8) Asiaspace (getting 10MHz)
9) Puncak Semangat (new comer in mobile data field) (getting 30MHz)

P1 & YTL is going to run TDD-LTE, whilst the rest to run FDD-LTE.
Joint effort: telcos sharing base station or band spectrum
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9 telcos with fierce competition? That may not really happen.
It is known that some telcos 'tie up' already to share base station (RAN - radio access network) among them to reduce cost.

Maxis <> U-mobile
Celcom <> Digi

* The above 'alliance' quite the same line up as sharing 3G station now.
** Redtone, Asiaspace, and Puncak Semangat are expected to join either alliances.
Which telcos will stand out in LTE war?
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This is unpredictable.
The above partnership apply to sharing infrastructure hardware among telcos to reduce operating cost, that having cost efficiency in pricing.
But when talk about performance (speed), if any alliance there also involve SHARING FREQUENCY SPECTRUM (bandwidth), that will be another story.
If merely based on technical data now, puncak semangat with 30MHz bandwidth should be the fastest LTE speed because got more bandwidth than 20MHz.
When getting started?
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Should be starting early next year after MCMC granting them the spectrum license.
Some telco already finished upgrading to LTE infrastructure station now, some are doing now like Digi. All is waiting green light by the authority.
E.g. Star Biz 5/6 just shown this:

[attachmentid=2878559]
Modem for LTE:
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Need to get new LTE modem. Existing 3G modem cannot be used for LTE.
However, LTE modem now usually come in 2 in 1 mode, ie they support LTE & 3G 42Mbps (backward compatibility)
On the contrary, pure 3G modem just support 3G no LTE.

** since LTE frequency band is diversed in different countries, so for frequent worldwide traveller one would need to bring at least 2 or 3 LTE modem. no more available universal modem like 3G modem.

*** LTE modem should also divided into FDD-LTE and TDD-LTE type.
Impact to 3G users
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New 3G plan subscription: if you are to sign up any 3G plan now that got binding contract period 1 year or more, need to think twice before acting.


Success of LTE Malaysia?

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same old question, always be the question of affordability.
and what volume quota for LTE plan since its so fast, a few gigabytes will be lapsed in a day. tongue.gif
Next thread will compose some data of LTE plan & cost available in other countries so we can compare to ours later see worth or not.
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i got 1 question on LTE vs Wimax

rumors said that LTE will be weaker in Indoor as their frequency is much more higher than wimax.

True or False?
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post Jun 23 2012, 05:41 PM

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theoretically, yes.

LTE 2.6GHz, WiMax Malaysia 2.3GHz

higher frequency = weaker indoor penetration power.

but also higher frequency band = carry more data = faster speed.

no perfect thing in the world.

assuming LTE external antenna will be much needed by then seeing now 3G 2.1GHz also need to use external 3G antenna for better connection quality.
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a vy nice article .... i can start learn the basic from here. thanks
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I did try LTE in the office during our demo, well there is a test lab in the office that has all the LTE equipment. The engineers are still testing LTE in the office until today. Sometimes I pop into their meeting room and test out the goddess' speed. tongue.gif

During the demo, speed fetched more than 80Mbps, running smoothly when streamed HD video and played online game at the same time. smile.gif

I'm from telco vendor and not provider, so not sure of the pricing.
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If coverage and speed. I prefer better signal coverage thrn speed. For me,2-4mbps is good enough already for hp surf net...
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80mbps is comparable to hk LTE speed already

celcom claim their got over 100Mbps instead


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oh... thats lighting fast...

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