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 V1 Proton Exora Bold Owners and Fans Thread, Calling all owner and future one...

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post Jun 11 2012, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(sendoh_7 @ Jun 11 2012, 04:05 PM)
i got my chassis no already..placed booking last thursday..
quite fast..but stumbled on d/p cos my current car cannot get the target price..haizz
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whats ur car color?
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post Jun 11 2012, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(sendoh_7 @ Jun 11 2012, 04:17 PM)
silver..
first time i heard silver got no queue  tongue.gif
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mine also silver. 2 weeks delivery
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post Jun 11 2012, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 11 2012, 11:10 PM)
When coming to red traffic light, the sound is like a toy mechanical/electric car slowing down. Very obvious.
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is this a design issue or it is supposed to be like this?
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post Jun 12 2012, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 12 2012, 03:23 PM)
no gear how to adjust? tongue.gif

The sound it makes is due to the pulleys tighten back at a fast rate. Thats why the "whurrrrrr" sound is much more apparent (louder) when you stop from 80kmh to 0 than stopping from 50kmh to 0. 

The engine braking (downhill recognition) in the VT3 is engaged automatically the moment the TCU detects a slope. The only way to cancel the downhill recognition is to put your foot on the throttle but that will consume a lot of fuel in that process therefore it is recommended to just leave the CVT to do its job and users have to get use to its characteristic. While going downhill, although rpm shoots up to 2,500 rpm, the amount of fuel injected into the engine is equivalent to the amount injected during idling [foot of throttle], so it will not contibute to high FC. During this process, the engine is actually running on lean mode (air ratio more than fuel ratio) and therefore it will be a bit hotter than usual.


Added on June 12, 2012, 3:30 pm

The Xtronic CVT are much more refined CVT than the Punch VT2/VT3/VT4 CVT. Not to mention the Xtronic actually has even lesser moving parts than the VT series CVT. It might have the noise but since it is a much refine unit, it could be even quieter or completely being muffled by Nissan.
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you mean going down hill, we should not press any gas at all? what about those highway going downhill?
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post Jun 12 2012, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 12 2012, 04:17 PM)
For Honda, I'm not very knowledgeable about their CVT. Heard their new CVT is very good but its only available in Japan and US Honda Accord, for now. The older Honda City one is also clutch based like the Punch VT2/VT3 and some said it behaves more or less like the VT2/VT3.

Smoothness
Nissan > Toyota > Punch

Durability
Nissan > Toyota > Punch

Efficiency (power loss)
Punch > Nissan > Toyota

Price
Punch > Nissan > Toyota
All these are subjective and not a final opinion so it is subjected to other opinions, etc.
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wah, like that after drive a few years the CVT will kong and have to change .... rclxub.gif
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post Jun 12 2012, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 12 2012, 04:23 PM)
the Punch CVT actually has a lifespan of 200,000km on paper. And don't worry, every parts inside is replaceable and the CVT itself is serviceable. In fact, Punch has the intention to set up a hub in Malaysia to solve/troubleshoot/fix the CVT sold by Proton. So if your belt snaps, you don't need to change whole CVT. Just replace the belt. biggrin.gif

Oh, and just to add, the CVT has been reported to be tested to up to 250,000km by Proton engineers during the Preve development period.  smile.gif
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tx for the insight. glad to know don't have to change the whole thing but still i believe will be expensive
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 12 2012, 11:24 PM)
yes, soundproofing definitely helps.

Preve Premium (CFE) is using the same VT3 with Exora Bold Premium (CFE). The difference in acceleration is due to the throttle response in the Preve which was tuned slightly retarded. The bold throttle level is well balanced between responsive and retard.
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Hi bro, how much to sound proof? is it expensive?
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post Jun 13 2012, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 13 2012, 12:11 AM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2262458/+60

you can even check out my review there...

I DIY myself on my car...
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tx for the info
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post Jun 13 2012, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(sendoh_7 @ Jun 13 2012, 11:23 AM)
brotan, please share some picts after you are done insulating your eb  tongue.gif
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if looks good, will share. if looks bad, sorry lah. hehe

btw, just booked 2 pcs from TS of this sound insulation. Wish me good luck thumbup.gif

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post Jun 13 2012, 01:53 PM

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wth, the chassis that i got was wrongly booked. it is already booked by other showroom for other customer vmad.gif vmad.gif
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QUOTE(sendoh_7 @ Jun 13 2012, 03:40 PM)
i think its still elegan brown..at least 1.5mths..red and silver can get within 2 weeks  tongue.gif
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they should change the name to gold lah. doesn't look brown at all
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post Jun 13 2012, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(sendoh_7 @ Jun 13 2012, 03:55 PM)
100% agree..

but the prettiest for me is still solid white with dark gray rims..but wont go thru hell maintaining it
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i wonder if repaint whole car how much? if already sien with the stock color, might want to change to dark gray

very classy
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QUOTE(MrEmas @ Jun 13 2012, 11:28 PM)
hi all

i'm owner of solid white Exora Bold, i want to ask about eb tyre. one of my eb tyre has punctured very bad (langgar bucu divider), had been replaced with spare tyre. Luckily, the spare tyre is same size with other tyres (and rims too).

so, what brand of tyre that suitable to replace my badly punctured tyre (to be used as spare tyre)? i think 16 size tyre price is around RM200 - 300++

tq

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oh before that, my EB is 1 month old with 3000++ km
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my place in ss3 has a good tyre shop. their 2nd tyre quite cheap and good
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 14 2012, 06:52 AM)
What do you mean by 2nd tire?
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sorry, 2nd hand
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post Jun 14 2012, 02:02 PM

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is it normal proton screw up and give same chassis no to 2 different dealer?
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QUOTE(azlan83 @ Jun 14 2012, 02:23 PM)
try call i care...confirm the chasis no. i think you SA should know better. my experience...after got chasis no...i call i care and they confirm it reaseve for me...be patience bro...
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i am ok if they delay my car (or chassis). problem is the SA said chassis reserved, went to pay the d/p. few days later said proton screw up and make mistake in the chassis allocation vmad.gif

now the money already transferred to them (~ rm 20k) which could have been used to save my housing loan interest rate (mine is flexi loan) cry.gif
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QUOTE(azlan83 @ Jun 14 2012, 02:38 PM)
i think you SA screw you to pay the down payment...should you get the chasis no and confirm with i care 1st then pay them. the SA blame proton...haha that the tactic

now you can only wait your car...now everyday you call SA ask the car...until u get the car...if not it will be more delay
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I just tembak them and said, "is this the first time you guys deal with proton? don't tell me you don't know there is this possibility and make sure you check on your side to double confirm first?"

I have a gut feeling they have cash flow problem and want to use my d/p somehow

Actually I did call the bank if i can hold (not cancel) the cheque but can't. only way is to cancel which will cause me RM 20 to cancel + I need to go to the showroom to sign some stupid papers. Don't want to waste my time on this kind of things, so I treat it as a lesson learned for me
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QUOTE(cocodemon @ Jun 14 2012, 05:24 PM)
guys, pls dun get me wrong. i juz want to share.

from my observation/reading online/asking people, seems its always better & safer to buy proton cars from proton edar. my findings:
1. pe (proton edar) is a part of proton, so its like u r buying directly from proton, without any middle-man.
2. pe delivery of stocks r based on orders, while dealer usually buy in bulk. so pe cars r 'fresher'.
3. due to this stock-pile practice by dealer, few 'problems' might arises, ie; battery connector is loosen, dealer exchange faulty part from another car to another, dealer give/exchange cars with other dealer resulting in someone have to drive the car, etc.
4. pe cars usually have very minimal milage due to they were sent by trailers directly fr factory. literally, they were never driven on road.
5. pe dun have cash-flow problems.
6. pe sc seems slightly better (i solely based this on the fact that most 'not using 10w30 oil' cases happened at non-pe sc's).
7. pe = proton = 100% genuine parts = no worry.
8. the pe sales i went to have: coffee girl (she will ask u, 'nak minum apa encik?'), a mini office of cimb (for faster loan processing) & direct link to the proton internal system (can check everything there, no need to refer elsewhere).

all these r based on my personal obsevation only. pls correct me if i'm wrong.  notworthy.gif
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Well, my case is handled by PE Taman Megah. I actually found this showroom from Proton's website
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QUOTE(brotan @ Jun 14 2012, 05:46 PM)
Well, my case is handled by PE Taman Megah. I actually found this showroom from Proton's website
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i just speculate they purposely do it. maybe it is genuine mistake case which i can't verify
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 14 2012, 10:08 PM)
Don't know why you people have to wait. I can get one almost anytime.
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You own the showroom, of course can get immediate stock lah tongue.gif

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