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post Jun 4 2012, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(tholib @ Jun 4 2012, 09:24 PM)
I want to ask about Cyrus the Great and Alexander the Great. Are both the same people? Did both conqurer of greece?
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This is out of my knowledge... sweat.gif That's already history... not specifically Greek myth...
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post Jun 4 2012, 09:29 PM

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i want to be like zeus, cause i get to whore around and get away with it, and pretty much in charge of the realm of gods.

sex and power, it aint get no better than that!
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post Jun 4 2012, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(Magick Cauldron @ Jun 4 2012, 09:28 PM)
This is out of my knowledge...  sweat.gif  That's already history... not specifically Greek myth...
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ok tell me the beginning of greek myth
the beginning as i wanted to know moar
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post Jun 4 2012, 09:34 PM

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Damn, I feel like playing Age of Mythology.
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post Jun 4 2012, 09:41 PM

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Who here would have like to get stranded (in ancient times) on the isle of Lesbos?  biggrin.gif
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you mean the Amazon?
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post Jun 4 2012, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(achik1990 @ Jun 4 2012, 09:41 PM)
you mean the Amazon?
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post Jun 4 2012, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(Magick Cauldron @ Jun 4 2012, 02:19 PM)
Mainly it was because Cronos was swallowing every child born by Rhea...
I like Norse myth too but never undertook the task of reading...
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Norse mythology is grim and dark. Greek and Roman gods aren't "heroic" because they were like spoiled, gifted children and weren't afraid to show off their powers. They were immortal and even in the bloodbath of the Trojan War as told in the Iliad they simply "fled" back to Olympus when their possessed avatars were defeated in the field of battle.

Norse mythology is all about the ending, the gods and heroes already know that Ragnarok was approaching for all of them. All that remained were for them to do mighty deeds so that they could be remembered and be honored before their time was up.
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QUOTE(smallbug @ Jun 4 2012, 09:44 PM)
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the Island filled only with Women is called Amazon ..
They warrior also called the Amazon ..

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post Jun 4 2012, 09:52 PM

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why the ancient land of europe are full of myth and godly human meanwhile east region kingdom such sumeria, macedonia and persian never have one?
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QUOTE(tholib @ Jun 4 2012, 09:52 PM)
why the ancient land of europe are full of myth and godly human meanwhile  east region kingdom such sumeria, macedonia and persian never have one?
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thats not true...

you have Mithra ....

the Zoroastrian myth also interesting which later evolved to Judaism -> Christianity -> Islam
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post Jun 4 2012, 10:00 PM

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ayam onli suppork titan sargeras, damn aegwynn
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post Jun 4 2012, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(achik1990 @ Jun 4 2012, 09:56 PM)
thats not true...

you have Mithra ....

the Zoroastrian myth also interesting which later evolved to Judaism -> Christianity -> Islam
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thank you bro.. this is good thing to read.. I always love the history from ancient till the world war 1,2 time.. they always interesting


btw isit zoroastrian are ancestor of Iranian till Pakistan people?
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post Jun 4 2012, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(tholib @ Jun 4 2012, 10:05 PM)
thank you bro.. this is good thing to read.. I always love the history from ancient till the world war 1,2 time.. they always interesting
btw isit zoroastrian are ancestor of Iranian till Pakistan people?
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yes...one of the earliest religion in the world...
founded by Zarathustra ...
it is also called pre-islamic religion since there similarities between the two.
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post Jun 4 2012, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(ray123 @ Jun 4 2012, 09:47 PM)
Norse mythology is grim and dark. Greek and Roman gods aren't "heroic" because they were like spoiled, gifted children and weren't afraid to show off their powers. They were immortal and even in the bloodbath of the Trojan War as told in the Iliad they simply "fled" back to Olympus when their possessed avatars were defeated in the field of battle.

Norse mythology is all about the ending, the gods and heroes already know that Ragnarok was approaching for all of them. All that remained were for them to do mighty deeds so that they could be remembered and be honored before their time was up.
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I should read more on Norse myth... I feel it's interesting, but I'm not sure where to start... Do you have any recommendation of a book?
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post Jun 4 2012, 10:34 PM

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Who thinks the User bar could use a little Greek War phonopoly.

Btw Since we are on Greek stuff, why do you think their culture revolves around homophobia? I came across an article explaining this culture and it was explained by a Spartan. When both men come in a relationship of sorts that involves intimacy, there lies a bridge to pass on the art of war from lover to lover.

In Thebes, the Sacred band consists of all lovers.
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post Jun 4 2012, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 4 2012, 10:34 PM)
Who thinks the User bar could use a little Greek War phonopoly.

Btw Since we are on Greek stuff, why do you think their culture revolves around homophobia?  I came across an article explaining this culture and it was explained by a Spartan. When both men come in a relationship of sorts that involves intimacy, there lies a bridge to pass on the art of war from lover to lover.

In Thebes, the Sacred band consists of all lovers.
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I think you got it all wrong..
the greeks encouraged homosexuality especially soldiers ...
They've discovered that intimate relationship between men promotes better reason to fight and they fight well..
even the flower Hyacinths was named after Apollo's gay lover ..
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post Jun 4 2012, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(china_dude 02 @ Jun 4 2012, 09:31 PM)
ok tell me the beginning of greek myth
the beginning as i wanted to know moar
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I'll refer to Apollodorus' The Library... since I can't remember every detail...

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Theogony
Ouranos, the personification(?) of the sky, married Gaia, the earth, and fathered the Hundred-Handers, and the Cyclopes (Arges, Steropes and Brontes) among others. But Ouranos hurled his children into Tartaros (a place of darkness, as distant from earth as the earth from the sky), and then he fathered the Titans, Cronos being the youngest of all.

Gaia persuaded the Titans to attack Ouranos, having been angered by his action, and gave an adamantine (a mythical metal of extreme hardness) sickle to Cronos. The Titans attacked their father, and Cronos severed his father's genitals and threw them into the sea. The Furies (or the Erinyes) were born from the drops of blood of Ouranos that fell on Gaia. When the Titans had won, they entrusted the leadership to Cronos. Cronos married his sister Rhea, and swallowed his children as they were born (after Gaia and Ouranos had prophesied that Cronos' power would be stripped off by his own son).

Rhea gave birth to Zeus in a cave on Mount Dicte. Zeus was protected by the Curetes and the nymphs. The Curetes would beat their spears against their shields to prevent Cronos from hearing the child's voice. Rhea passed a stone wrapped in fabric to Cronos to swallow (I still remember this one in God of War II(?)).

When Zeus was grown, he was helped by Metis (Metis personifies cunning intelligence), and she gave Cronos a drug to swallow, which resulted in the gods whom he swallowed to be disgorged. Zeus and the gods went to war against Cronos and the Titans. Gaia prophesied that Zeus would obtain victory if he freed those hurled into the Tartaros. So, Zeus set them free, and the Cyclopes gave Zeus thunder and lightning, Hades a helmet of invisibility, and Poseidon a trident. With these weapons, the gods won over the Titans, and kept them in the Tartaros. Zeus then governed over the heavens, Poseidon over the sea and Hades over the Underworld...
Sorry if it looks as if it was copied from a book, because for the most part, it is.
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QUOTE(achik1990 @ Jun 4 2012, 10:39 PM)
I think you got it all wrong..
the greeks encouraged homosexuality especially soldiers ...
They've discovered that intimate relationship between men promotes better reason to fight and they fight well..
even the flower Hyacinths was named after Apollo's gay lover ..
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post Jun 4 2012, 11:01 PM

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Also out of 3 major gods...
Hades was the richest god & also the realm of the dead is consider as a paradise.
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post Jun 4 2012, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(Magick Cauldron @ Jun 4 2012, 10:30 PM)
I should read more on Norse myth... I feel it's interesting, but I'm not sure where to start... Do you have any recommendation of a book?
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http://www.amazon.com/Mythology-Edith-Hamilton/dp/0316341517

As for the Norse full text themselves:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/poe/
http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/pre/

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