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cckkpr
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Jun 28 2013, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(podrunner @ Jun 28 2013, 07:14 AM) Are you serious?? LOL Thought this thread is pretty much dead. Wonder how many going into first year medical school in the UK this year. Hi, welcome back! Rising costs. Minimize unnecessary costs. Luckily pound softening again. Didn't take advantage when it was abt 4.60.
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cckkpr
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Jun 28 2013, 02:53 PM
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Just have to keep up with the times and hope for the best.
Relative do some shadowing work under a specialist after the end of academic year noticed quite a number of Malaysian specialists in the various hospitals including surprising number of bumis who have taken up residence over there. Malaysian Boleh.
Those outside the tempurung have a global view.
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cckkpr
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Jun 29 2013, 08:40 AM
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I thought such kind of policies only occur in third world or underdeveloped countries. Anyway, UK has until now managed to place all graduates for internships.
I think it's good for Limeuu to caution us on our expectations but he could be overreacting on the impact in the foreseeable future.
We have already moved one leg forward and would just have to deal with it.
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cckkpr
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Jun 29 2013, 08:33 PM
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Why do eu doctors choose to work in UK? Is it becoz of the current economic situation? Could also be a number of eu countries producing an excess of doctors over their own needs. I also note that the present protests in Brazil are linked to the poor healthcare system due to the lack of doctors. As an interim solution, the President is considering importing 50k doctors from Spain and Portugal but this is met with objection from the local medical association. Closer to home, doctors from Myanmar, Pakistan and Bangladesh are up for hire and does this indicate that they are producing more than what is needed. If it is true, why are we worried about our perceived excess in the near future. Seems that opportunities to work as doctors are aplenty if we are brave enough to into the borderless world. Should we worry since we have not reach 'export' status? We may not have the recognition but the point is did we seek for it?
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cckkpr
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Jul 9 2013, 09:02 AM
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The internship training is still not that bad here. My nephew graduated from Russia this year and was easily placed in Sultan Aminah Hospital together with his gf and this is just less than 10 minutes from his place of residence. He is finding it stressful probably due to the inadequacy of the training in Russia. Its not true that most are being sent to rural areas. Even if graduates are sent there, they should accept that. Another graduate from UMS told me that most of his batch mates prefer to be based in Sabah, dont know whether this is true.
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cckkpr
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Jul 9 2013, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jul 9 2013, 03:34 PM) how does getting a housemanship job equate to 'internship training is still not that bad here'.....? I think I made my point clear irrespective of the usage.
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cckkpr
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Jul 11 2013, 06:58 AM
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QUOTE(SticH @ Jul 10 2013, 09:41 PM) how much better are government students against private students (let's say in the top 40 out of 200 students) ? are we really that bad? Presumably not much of difference if both sides selection are merit based and top down approach.
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cckkpr
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Jul 21 2013, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(chiiupe @ Jul 21 2013, 07:58 PM) To those who had to learn Russian, where did you attend your classes? I don't think there is a need to learn Russian as you won't interact with the patients! Your Prof will do his bedside teaching in English.
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cckkpr
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Jul 21 2013, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE(chiiupe @ Jul 21 2013, 10:22 PM) I'm not a current/prospective medical student, just asking for centers or courses that reach that level of language proficiency needed for university level. The only place I found was the one in Jalan Pinang. Asked here to see whether there are other places offering recognized courses since a sizable number of med students study in Russia (I heard they study the language for a year before going off?). The nine months course is a foundation course to enter university and not a language course.
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cckkpr
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Jul 25 2013, 06:14 PM
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Sorry to say that the same kind of things are happening in other professions as well. These include lawyers, accountants, architects, engineers etc.
Many are actually guided by $$$$$ or parental choice.
For info sake, ask those who are not in critical courses and see what course they are allocated and see how many were given the first 3 preference in their choices.Its real messy out there!
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cckkpr
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Aug 2 2013, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(kalijaga @ Aug 2 2013, 10:54 AM) Guys, in the medical field, once you graduate you can choose to specialize... eg becoming a surgeon, physician, paediatrician. you can remained 'unspecialize' and remain a humble General Practioner(GP), because in Malaysia you can be a GP without any specialization. The you can sub specialize even further eg cardiologist, neurosurgeon etc. These are specialization above the specialization after graduating. You can still further specialize eg paediatric cardiothoracic surgeon...etc but that will only be for the few of us... with regards to graduating in Msia or outside, I think the prospect of specializing is good in Msia or even outside, just that you need to have the drive to do it. Believe me guys, when you see secondary school mate who did business becoming the COO of Affin Bank, and you are still struggling to finish your subspecialization, then you understand....this is the truth,As this is topics is for medical students or potential students, just know that medicine is never about money (even some of my friends are earning millions) or glamour, it is a calling that demand sacrifices from you you never imagine possible! Godspeed... How many COO are there in Affin Bank? Are you sure he did business? Looking at the other side of the fence is always greener. Did you know how many years that guy need to reach that position and how much effort he needs to go there and what special qualities he had proven to make it up there? Be it an uneducated guy or well qualified guy, those who make it possess certain qualities that stands out from the crowd. And they deserve it!
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cckkpr
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Aug 5 2013, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(podrunner @ Aug 5 2013, 01:18 PM) Is there an updated list of medical degrees recognised by the MMC? I can only find the 2009 updated list. For the locals, from a BFM podcast by Dr. Ismail Merican recently, he said there were 11 from IPTA and 22 from IPTS.
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cckkpr
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Aug 5 2013, 02:19 PM
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On another note, while speaking with a doctor the other day, was informed that new specialists setting up clinics outside hospitals have difficulties in getting "rights" (not sure this is the right word) now to use the hospital facilities for their own patients but instead can only do referrals.
Previously, such specialists have access rights to practically all the private hospitals in town.
Looks like competition is building up from all angles and isn't this good for the patients?
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cckkpr
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Aug 6 2013, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Aug 6 2013, 08:24 PM) A little clarification. At CUCMS, there's a side note saying "Period of recognition extended from 31/12/2010." What does that supposed to mean? Is there actually a recognition or? Thanks  Should be recognised as its one of the seven local med unis for bursary students this year.
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cckkpr
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Aug 7 2013, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Aug 6 2013, 08:45 PM) I thought with their accreditation fiasco years ago, they are given year by year recognition for the next few years rather than full recognition without restriction? Oh well, again this shows how blatant the rules can be bent and etc. Its a change in ownership with a new crony. What happen in the past not important, we look to the future and try to be No. 1 blah blah blah!
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cckkpr
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Aug 15 2013, 02:00 PM
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Basically, its time to rotate the gravy train.
Ah, noted from some of the comments that there is still acute shortage of medical specialists in the desired field and I do agree that there is an urgent need to upgrade many of the hospitals and staff them with the necessary people. The rakyat deserve more.
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cckkpr
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Aug 15 2013, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(podrunner @ Aug 15 2013, 03:27 PM) @cckkpr, how do the med students in UGlasgow know how they rank in their cohort for the respective years? I know during the final year, there are decile rankings for all unis. The students have their individual grades and from the analysis of the cohort, they will know where they rank. It will look like A1 -1 student, A2 -2 students, A3- 5 students etc.
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cckkpr
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Aug 15 2013, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(podrunner @ Aug 15 2013, 03:48 PM) Ok, thanks. I think it's good to know where one stand. 5 of the Malaysians had to go back early for resits, at relative's uni. Oh, really? Kinda stressful in situations like this.
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cckkpr
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Aug 19 2013, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Aug 19 2013, 11:34 PM) Sorry pod. Kindly excited today because I spoke to a doctor who is 50+ this year. He told me that he could make more money in Malaysia compared to UK. He is a kidney specialist. But I thought about it and I am very curious. If doctors could make more in Malaysia, why is everyone so eager to become a doctor in the UK? He also told me that private doctors are very few. I am just asking here to verify what he said. Is it true? Thanks. Agree that "competent" doctors in bolehland do make more money than those in UK. But how about those that are not so.
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cckkpr
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Aug 20 2013, 07:01 AM
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QUOTE(Jckc @ Aug 20 2013, 12:28 AM) It's not about the fame or money. It's about helping people.  Really? The one and only answer for those who chose med in the first place!
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