the training of a doctor in the old days was an apprenticeship...that is time tested, and it should still be...unfortunately, modern education, especially many "money making degree mills" have converted it into an academic exercise....

in good medical schools in well managed health care systems, it still is, and the process of transition from student to doctor blurs as they involve students early in the management of patients....

as an example, in australia, final year medical students are assigned to a firm/team, and in effect function like junior housemans...they clerk in the patients, and initiate investigations and treatment plans...all on the actual case notes...but of course, they are not registered practitioners, so all these will have to be vetted and countersigned by usually a registrar grade doctor.....the transition to an intern ( as they call houseman) is thus seamless...they just continue doing what they have been doing...

that is why, choosing a good medical school, in a good health care delivery system, is important...but then, the majority of msian med students will not qualify to enter these med schools in developed economies like uk/oz/spore anyway....even if money is not a problem...simply because they will not pass the stringent selection process these med schools practice....

For clinical skills well, we have to do quite abit. It's just that the nurses do them as well and opportunity comes and go depending on patient. So we have to fight for them to be done. 

The gmc has guidance on what we must be competent by graduation. (32 in general but my medical school has 8 extra so 40)
http://www.gmc-uk.org/Outcomes_for_graduat...df_61408029.pdf
(its at the last few pages which they have listed)

Its mandatory for students to be provisionally registered with gmc and graduate safely.
( and yes, we SHOULD be observed doing the procedure. However, due to certain simple procedures, such as bp or pulse rate OR time constraint of junior doctors, its always difficult to get someone to supervise you. We always try to do so if we're not comfortable or competent with the skill. For me, im comfortable doing bloods/cannulas/abgs and etc without supervision as long i know my limits as a student and not harming the patient whereas otherwise ill like to get the junior doc to supervise and comment on my technique and etc)

Yes and no imo. Practice makes perfect but as long youre willing to learn and improve throughout your career, you can be on par or be better in them than your peers. (a lot of europe-trained docs do not do much hands on skills so they have to learn from scratch when they work here)

Is it necessary to go for premium service in the application for a Tier 4 visa?

It is pretty expensive at 1,000 pounds. Relative was informed that if not premium service, passport can get lost.

A lot of things also acted on her own.

NHS - sigh! Relative got first pay check today, elated apparently. Haha.

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Thanks. The Irish scenario is not new.
Re BMA’s article, I read it differently...as it seems to have the effect of doctor shortage, with some EU doctors leaving and likely continue to leave.

http://www.health.gov.au/internet/main/pub...cal-internships

Australia makes changes to CMI scheme allowing international medical graduates to apply.

it was never fully subscribed....partly because the number of normal jobs have increased...

it was NEVER meant for imgs.....

the present relaxation to include imgs is to cater for 2 groups of foreign doctors who are eligible for provisional registration in oz....the monash msia med school and the uq ochsner clinical school in new orleans usa....as well as some who passed the amc exams....

Happy to help. Best way is to contact me via my website or send me an email - foreignbornmd@gmail.com
I check the forums every few days as well.

Are you a consultant?

Here is the official requirements by the Malaysian Medical Council (MMC) to enter medical degree programs:

http://mmc.gov.my/images/contents/registration/MER.pdf

...Your kid doesn't fulfill the requirement of Biology...

For MUFY, as stated in the MMC requirements:

- Aggregate or average of 80% or the equivalent of any B in any 3 subjects:
    * Biology AND
    * Chemistry AND
    * Physics OR Mathematics


If your kid not interested in Engineering... how about teaching? as in Bachelor of Education? (such as TESL, Physics, Mathematics, etc)
or... Banking? Commerce? Land surveying? Geology?

Thanks for the suggestion, I just browser IMU -PMS, I think it's education journey longer and much..much higher in term of school fee.

Business and Entrepreneurship - that is where the $$$ actually is... Not medicine... not Law...
If your son is ambitious enough, he might be the next 'Jack Ma'...

Steady and above average if you're able to withstand unemployment before being called for housemanship and compete with fellow doctors for gov posts & training positions after 4y of contract 

my own experience as an engineer in oil&gas industry, the first 8 years salary increased linearly. After that, the sky was the limit, until the crude oil price crashed a few years back. 

RM1M is not sufficient even for fees in UK now for most Universities. Maybe can do it at Queens.

Glasgow is about 42k pounds now per year for fees only. And Brexit seems to give the pound a lift.

There is actually reasonable methods of reducing the attrition of doctors away from the profession....

Setting high academic requirements reduce coping failures....

Isat/umat/bmat/ukcat etc are aptitude tests to try determine people suitability....

Finally, as is noted by several here, graduate entry medical students are more motivated, as they are more matured when they decided....

Msia generally failed in all three....