they are still required to sit for isat (it is a requirement for amc recognition), but the result will have no bearing on the selection....

it is unmed that has given up ukcat.....since gmc has already ruled graduates cannot be placed in the uk fy programme, and hence cannot work in uk.....

with the doors closing in the traditional commonwealth countries for msians, interest has shifted to the us...where the system for registration is still pretty open, ie pass usmle step 2 qualifies you to apply for intern jobs, and step 3 to apply for residency.....

however, like said, ability to register does NOT mean getting a job......and getting the necessary visa.....something many do not know details about...the intern and residency marching process is a complex one, and disadvantage imgs.....

sorry, i thought you are of the 09-13 cohort and should be graduating now?....

the launnie and burnie jobs, they are the mainstream ones i presume?....does tassie have any 'commonwealth medical internship' jobs?....

http://www.health.gov.au/internet/main/pub...cal-internships

at the moment, it is purely running for 2013 graduating students, for internship 2014....100 places...

it appears it may be a short term adhoc measure, till public hospital internship places catches with graduating numbers....the increase in graduating doctors is expected to taper off in 2016...

the 1:400 ratio is unrealistic, in the current economic level msia is in.....the 1:600 as advised by who is more realistic....

the moh budget is already under enormous strain, as the gov is reluctant to allocate more money for health care, and wants to privatise more, or introduce a dedicated health care tax for more revenue....

doctor production is a money making business, hence privatised...providing broad based healthcare is a money consuming business, and limited by shortage of funds....

the mismatch will result in unemployment....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Nov 11 2013, 12:47 PM

how is working condition related to higher patient charge?.....

not correct...working condition is not dependent on these factors, but on hours, time, volume of work, stress from patients and employers, litigation risks etc....these factors can be negative both in the public and private settings.....

i thought we are talking about junior doctors, as this subject was raised by onelove above?....

the so called moratorium did not hold.....at least 3 more med schools were licenced by moe and rammed through mmc by the then dg after.....

what on earth is a 'orthopaedic physician'?....

and since when do people see a 'sports injury specialist' when they have a fall and cut their knee?....

the article is so flawed...the figures are wrong.....(i think they are using the houseman base salary)....and really, engineers can only work in sales?...

there is no law or rule against treating close relatives, but it is advisable not to, because the emotional relationship can impair clinical judgement and decision making....

all medical entertainment dramas are exactly that......dramas to entertain.....and should not be taken as real....

I thought they have sorted out the shortage of internship places, and the commonwealth places scheme was temporary for 2014.....

So it looks like they have not increase the intern positions enough to absorb all graduates...and the commonwealth scheme continues, but I think it's not as bad as 2013 with almost 500 overhang....

I know there are a couple of Monash sunway grads in rhh internship, so surely it can't be that bad in tassie?...I understand a significant number of interstate Aussies prefer to move to the mainland....

This post has been edited by limeuu: May 27 2014, 09:58 AM

With the shortage of ho jobs, and waiting list, you will have to where ever you are posted.....popular places are rapidly filled, so you choices like hkl are probably not possible....

that suggests even places like kp, temerloh are full....!!

otherwise, like in the past, if you apply to these type of places, you will almost guaranteed to get it....

hkl can take a lot of hos because of the very large number of specialists....

the first round offers are already out?....

qld i thought is always pretty full considering the numbers coming out from uq....more chances with wa and sa i think?.....

uq takes in about 500 students every year, the also have an 'american' programme, geared to the us system and usmle exams....like all big med schools, you can be posted in different hospitals, and never meet your year mate...!

graduate entry 4 year programmes have a 2 year clinical component....should be the same for melbourne as well....but the 3rd year could possibly be a hybrid year, like utas' 3rd year....

any offer yet?....when will tasmania give out offers for cat 2?

spore used to take all comers, as they had a shortfall of 200+ doctors a year.....duke/nus med school has started graduating, and there is a lot more surplus production in both uk and oz lately (amid shortages of jobs) who are looking towards spore, hence the number of applicants to spore has increased as their needs drop....so yes, last time it was a sweet deal recruitment drive, and now it's choosing the best from a bigger pool.....(although they still have a very attractive package for singaporeans to return to work)

it all depends on who need who more....rural areas in oz still lack doctors and will give a sweet deal....whereas everybody wants to go to teaching hospitals in sydney and melbourne....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 7 2014, 08:11 AM

This will be the first private med school in the UK.... It has been proposed some time ago, with some initial objection to the idea of full fees private medical education....

All students will pay the rather high fees of 35k GBP....which is more than 3 times other students pay at public funded unis....which then begs the question, will any British student want to do this....their current student profile shows half their students are internationals....so it is likely to be higher in the med school with such high fees....

only those who cannot get a public funded education will want to go to there, and it is in recognition of this reality, that they start the programme in Jan, with selection after all UK med schools have started....

they have completely ignored the ukcat/bmed testings....

1st criteria is academic results (which based on their timing, potential students will have), with the minimum a low 3a....which then feeds into further assessments....

this is the complete opposite of all the other med schools, where all assessments and offers are completed before the a level results are out...

every year, there will be reports of how students with straight a+ did not secure an offer....this will be an option for them....assuming they have very rich parents....

they expect 60% of students to be internationals...i suspect it's going to be more than that....but since they are not public funded, there is no restriction....they can take in 100% internationals if they want...

also note that they are charging clinical phase fees even for their pre-clinical years....and the 1/2 year is actually the final year....to sync with f1 timetable....wonder if that is charged as 1/2 of full year as well!