Name :Bong tien loong 0166542802 this is the number. Try to escape this contractor. working slow and many excuse. 12 feet concrete table work around 1 week still havent done. Damn! !!!!

This post has been edited by chris5579: May 31 2012, 04:18 PM

i would suggest settle with him any payment issue and terminate this bad main contractor.

Haiz. ... Bad day. Thx for ur suggestion. Yes we settle with him already just replace anathe contractor. and just wanna sharing the bad thing. And let people know and beware.

Count yourself lucky. You paid him off. There have been cases encountered by other house owners where their contractor run off with their money without completing the work. Finally, the house owners have to spend more money to complete the job.

Not the worst lah... because
1. He did not take full payment and cabut
2. Threathen you for more money
3. Damage your things and deny responsibility.
- many worse case here in this forum.

Not only that...some cannot find other contractors to continue because noone want to get into troble with him or the work was so bad it has to be torn down and re-do or he has told everyone that you are the bad guy actually not paying him and want everything cheap cheap cheap and fast fast fast and contractors listen to contractors because they are of the same kind...hahahaha

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Added on June 1, 2012, 3:53 pmContractors are like that:

Stage one. Quotation. everything is possible whatever you want even discount. Very polite, very professional, amicable, call you often and when you call him for appointment, he will be there.

Stage 2: Once you agreed to give him the job. Before you get thing signed, cemnet, brick, wood, etc will be delivered to your house almost immediately. Signing can come later as far as they are concerned. No first payment deposit.

Stage 3. Commence work next day no delay whatsoever. Called you he has completed something and want you to verified if you are happy and if it is according to what you want. Want to make changes, no problem.

Stage 4. Tell you that you have not paid him the deposit, or no, it is he forgot to ask you for the money. You paid, work continue as you would like it to be.

Stage 5. You pay more money according to schedule

Stage 6.Disappered for few days, you called he comes and said need money just to buy material though that stage has not completed because just paid salary to workers, you pay otherwise no material how to continue?

Stage 7. All changes you request needed to be paid and no nego. You paid because you have no choice.

Stage 8. Disappear for days and you call will come next day but only for one day. You are stuck. Your weakness now show, you got no say and this is the time he make his demands. The table turned now against you. You have to pleased him otherwise he will work on other sites and your house has to wait, this include advance payment.

Stage 9: meeting his demand you house will be completed

Stage 10: you have an open house, the person you will not invite is your contractor who did the reno for you!!!!

This post has been edited by stevie8: Jun 1 2012, 03:53 PM

100% Support, my contractor also has the same behavior... really disappear for few days in the 50% stage and keep asking for payment but I told him that I will pay if he deliver according to the progress. But still, the job has been delayed for 3 weeks ++. Today, he promised will get it done by next week and return my key. Let's see ....

nice story but not all like this...
how about the contractor follow what owner want..
do tambah ini tambah itu without tambah cost to owner...
at last owner didnt pay as promised (contract) to the contractor..?

btw customers always right hahaha...

Customer don't always right., some like to pay 10, expect to get 20 worth of work. Some see the cost, but not the result but when the job don't satisfied argue and the other party fault.

My company is marketing major consumable brand, we have customer buy entry level camera, don't know how to take photo, blame the machine and ask for higher end model as replacement.

Do many funny customer.

We like to follow the bad way. 1 contractor success using this way, others will follow.

Hahahaha. That is only half of the story. We are all malaysian. We are of the same kind. Why would you want to be so nice to the owner tambah this tambah that without tambah cost? So you see it is dog eats dog world. People give you chance you take advantage, that is malaysian so how. This is call the fengshui wind taking turn to change direction. Feng shui lin lao chin.

At first the fengshui is with the owner. The owner is the king, want this want that for free, complaint about this complaint about that no so nice, not so smooth and the whole thing has to be taken out and re-do, for example. Voice also louder and must obey.

Then the fengshui started to change its direction reaching 50% of the job. Now, the contractor is the king. How could a king accept a new king when the expectation from the begining was so so high and now you have to be a servant!!!????

The moral of the story is Cheap things dont come good. Good things dont come cheap. Be reasonable. Why is china product is so superior in US and Europe like Hier for electronics? Why china products broken in a month in Malaysia? We are asking for too low a price and our importer friends are bringing in cheap dirt cheap products.

So chris5579, your contractor is considered good..

still good but not respondsibility and many excuse ...and build something not in my plan

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Added on June 2, 2012, 12:53 amya true .... alot of contractor cheating .but bad i facing 1 of them

This post has been edited by chris5579: Jun 2 2012, 12:53 AM

I would like to share my bad experience with this contractor recommended in this forum, named David Chow Yong Ee, from BELLWAY HOMES, based in Jalan PU 2/5, Puchong, Selangor. First of all, I'm not blaming you (if you are a real customer of his). Maybe he did a good job on you, but in my case, if anybody who reads this wants me to sum up him in one word, it would be IRRESPONSIBLE. I'm not being ill-hated or malicious by writing this statement, I'm just using my consumer power to stop irresponsible, reckless, unreliable and bogus contractor from having a place in our world.

So, let me tell a real, true story, experienced first hand by myself as an owner of my house and as his customer.

I just moved into a 20x60 house. Not that big. I wanted all my parquets in my house to be replaced with tiles. So I called him up some time in April 2012, and the rate he agreed to give me was RM4.50/sqft. Based on 557 sqft, the charge was RM2,500. On top of that, I would like the floor tiles of my 2 bathrooms (much less than 200 sqft) to be replaced with new tiles. The charge was RM1,600, inclusive of installation of water basin and toilet bowl. All the charges include workmanship, but excluding tiles, water basin and toilet bowl, which I wanted to buy on my own.

Before his guys started working, he (David Chow) told me that the work could be finished in 1 week. Of course I don't trust any word from a person I barely know, so I predicted it could be in between 7-8 days to complete. The work was done by two (2) Indonesians from Jawa Timur, not David. I suspected they are just 19 or 20 or even younger. The work was done every day by those 2 guys, except 2 or 3 days when only 1 worker (named Amin from Sulawesi) did the job. The reason was the 2 guys who were supposed to do the job were not fed by their employers. I was told by them sometimes they were not even paid. So I believe they retaliated by not coming to work. Fortunately I didn't just sit there and let them starve. How do you expect 2 guys not properly taken care of do their work?

After 8 days passed by, the work was still not completed. I called up this David guy every day, and every time we engaged in a conversation, he assured me that the work can be completed today. Today and today and today for the next 4 days. Obviously this young guy didn't know what he was talking about. The work was completed on the 13th day.

Regarding the quality of the work, I would rate 5 in a scale of 1 to 10. After the work was completed, they were still small holes between two tiles. So I asked them to put cement (or whatever it is called). OK, the job was done. But now, the holes seem to reappear again. So I guess the workmanship is not that good, flawed to its best. Not to mention that now they are hairline cracks on the skirting of the wall that they put up.

The most pathetic part is this. After installing the toilet bowl, the water flow to the manhole seemed to be clogged. So the Amin guy took it out, scooped the things he could find in the pipe with his bare hands and found some algae, and re-install the toilet bowl again. It seemed it was OK after several flushings. About less than a month later, the toilet bowl began to clogged up again. Water can be seen exiting through the base of the bowl (the one that connects the bowl and the floor) when it was flushed. Water also rose up when it was flushed. I suspected it was clogged again. Note that the toilet is a guest toilet, which was rarely used. So no toilet paper or anything similar get disposed of into the bowl. So, I called up this David guy. To my surprise, HE REFUSED TO LOOK INTO IT because the Amin guy had de-clogged the toilet before. OK, fine, at that moment I promised that I will do everything in my power to tell the world what kind of a contractor he really is.

Then, I called up my old contractor who renovated my house previously. He came eventually, and looked into that. He took out the bowl, used his designated pole (not with his bare hands) to check whether it is clogged or not. IT WASN'T CLOGGED. The reason why water came out through the base of the bowl is there was not enough mixture of cement put at the base of the bowl. In other words, IT WAS THIS DAVID'S DOING ALL ALONG. Now the toilet is doing just fine.

So, a very valuable lesson learned. My advice is don't ever ever appoint a young, inexperience young contractor like David Chow Yong Ee. I don't think he has ever done any hands-on work related to construction. He only came to my house 2-3 times in about 30 minutes each time to supervise his workers, whereas my previous contractor, Mr. Tan did the work himself with his workers. If you want Mr. Tan's contact number, please PM me.

Sorry tohear that, for old timer here, they know many hit and run case here. Lots of former with few post count will say they got good contractor, actually is themselves.

Are we getting more bad and con contractor here in forum?

How to flush out all this bad contractor out from here?

yup, sorry to hear that..... BTW, who is mr. Tan, u renovate your house twice in short period

I guess people just need to use the sense...and do home work lol

Sad n frust to hear such thing

Why don't you directly engage with Mr. Tan earlier since he already renovate your house previously?