according to gsmarena.com
All Symbian fans and users might want to sit
down while reading this. According to the Product
Marketing Manager for Nokia South Europe
Mathias Fiorin, Symbian Carla has been cancelled. Nokialino, an Italian Nokia fan site, claims to have
spoken with Mathias Fiorin, so the infomation
should be pretty accurate. He says Carla is now known as FP1. But it is not
just a name change - both upcoming Feature
Packs won't bring major updates, HD screens and
dual-core CPU support. Basically Belle is the last
major Symbian release the world will get. If all of this is true then Symbian is as good as
dead. There is no better way to put this – there
will be no Carla or Donna. The final update will be
Belle’s upcoming Feature Pack 2 and, as you can
guess, that will hardly be a game changer. We have to wait for an official announcement,
though it does makes sense – as the Symbian
market share diminishes rapidly, Nokia is putting
all its efforts into Windows Phone.

This post has been edited by red3devil: May 24 2012, 09:41 AM

Belle is fine right now tho.

the horrible vkb can be mod by here : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2357508

the HD screen/dual core isn't needed..that's for geeks that crazy over epen0r benchmark, not normal phone user.

Belle is NOT fine.
Look at Nokia Store, no new games or apps that can be found at Google Play or App Store.

Now to me Symbian phones are as good as normal phones for basic users

That's not Belle problem

agree with you about Nokia store..but too bad you buy phone just to play games

Not buy phone just to play games, but got better than don't have ma, at least when you are bored can kill time. Plus all those apps for Android and iOS also dont have

about time they kill the dinosaur...

FP 2 gonna be the last update. I bet no more Symbian phones coming out already. Fully focus on WP7

its sad but what to do ... you finished bought every single game in the store..
its gonna be WP7 in the future, symbian and meego harmattan should stay as Qt lover programmer

Yea, WP7 for Nokia. But I hate the fact that the current Lumia series might not be getting Apollo. Which is kinda sad as they won't get a major upgrade and no custom roms around

damn letme get this straight already.
Carla and Donna news is not confirmed yet, and so does Apollo not going to current Lumia. There is no concrete/official source yet. GSMarena IS NOT official source.
Custom rom for WP7 _tango_ already available, go google.

Carla and Donna news not confirm and not official, but most probably true bro. Also considering that they ditched Symbian to Accenture even makes sense.

Yes Tango custom rom got because Lumia series planned to get Tango anyway, but Apollo don't know la

I do meant by Carla ^& Donna axed and replaced by Belle FP1 and FP2, its not confirmed yet.

But of course its true symbian will be dead, they already announced it last year

Yeah, plus FP1 and FP2 won't bring any major upgrades.

Haha announced last year, confirmed this year. RIP symbian

How can you confirm it is really dead now ..??

Maybe it will .. But until 2016 , Symbian will be alive

Not really dead, but no more major improvement only

So, the title is misleading

Not really, just suddenly got new announcement

shows that, we can't believe everything that appear on internet..

As long as no official statement from Nokia / Symbian , the other's report is just rumours..

Haha problem is, when they make the report, macam yes. Say what from Nokia official, very reliable blablabla

So sad

this suxx

True, Nokia gonna give up on symbian n hoping to be top in phone market by selling Windows phone.

Hmm, come to think of it actually it MAY BE possible

Its true. now symbian no sales, so focus on Windows...

I mean perhaps one day Windows Phone can overtake Android

Yes people will be comfortable using windows phone because same like their computer OS...

Indeed, its really straight forward, plus Google already bought Motorola, which means...

Pls elaborate...

I know Google bought motorolla. So???

JUST MAYBE, I SAID MAYBE, ITS JUST MY GUESSING:

After Google bought Motorola, they can produce their own Android phones. So why give Samsung and other companies the Android OS for free? Surely they will charge them with a high price or what. So maybe Samsung, HTC and Sony may consider changing OS?

But this won't happen for the next five years, because it was already stated in the contract. So we might just wait and see what happens to Motorola and Android after 5 years

Ok accepted...

Now the producers don't pay anything to google for using android Os ah?
Not even a little?

Yeap!

Android is FREE bro! I think...

Symbian totally dead bro.... =)

left , IOS , android and Windows Mobile only lo...nobody using symbian anymore...since less APP.....

proof that please !!..

in fact there are many people that using Symbian..

And I was deciding to buy the 808... how depressing now.

buy it if u need phone with monster camera.. or else, carry extra PnS camera/dslr..
btw, if u need basic social apps, like social network fb,twitter etc, symbian does have..
only custome apps such as maybank2u,etc doesnt have..
well, ppl around me all jump to samseng..while im still a proud owner of n8, previous ex king of mobile camera..

Will you recommend buying for its price? I feel its on the high side

the price quite expensive as the competition is very strong.. plus samseng s3 price only rm2100+..
the decision is yours.. if u favor more apps,games, emulator..maybe u can try android..
else if u do alot of photography but lazy to bring out extra camera, this phone certainly does the job done..
the downside is not much apps/games..but it does have all basic apps..
hardware n os wise, 1.3ghz with fp1 certainly will give smooth experience..
maybe got some lag sometime.. later on, i sure there will be alot cfw made by modder, like n8..
my expreience with n8,even with 680mhz, with modded cfw, it way better than low end android phone..
check your requirement, budget..or wait for price lower abit

You have strong points there.

Although I don't play many games and certainly can live without them, I do watch YouTube and RSS a lot. Any comments regarding this on symbian belle fp1?

if rss not sure as i did not use it, but for youtube video on my n8, need to download the youtube client.. then can watch using the client..

Youtube on Symbian is quite good now. Can even load HQ movies.

Its a none issue.

Look, no matter how anyone look at it, survival of a phone relied alot upon presence of apps. So sooner or later Symbian is going to die. But it will survive for a few good years.

Afterall, a phone's lifespan is also about 5 years anyway, at least for a smart phone.

So its important that we cover our arses first -- make sure one can transfer our existing phone data to future phone OS. And ability to backup our existing ones, eg. apps that can do backup such as iDriveLite in iOS which I use.

Saying that, is there any backup apps in symbian that has similar apps for data backup ?

After we backup, we can literally enjoy any phone OS we like. iOS and android does have apps that go beyond gaming. I for one, uses phone to access my house CCTV, data backup, read up my google documents occasionally, and occasiona PPS videos ! I don't play games, well, rarely. But I do look for something that Nokia has right now, eg. the 41MP phone camera which I drool upon.

So yes I will get one for what I would need. For the apps usage, I have found mostly similar apps for what I need as listed above, except perhaps the PPS apps and iDriveLite. As long as my data is backed up well, I think I may change to other OS in future. So symbian's survival is not relevant to be honest.

yes you are right.. well, it depends on the needs.. that why many jump ship to android/ios as it offer more apps, games..
for me, my n8 now serve as 2nd phone, with occasional calling n texting.. and also for taking picture..
and i believe those stick with symbian bcoz they did not need to use 10000+ apps, for now..
and also bcoz of awesome camera..

The apps can be very useful indeed. Eg. went to one utama to look for nokia shop to ask for 808, immediately I can install oneU apps in my iphone and look for the shop. Its ironic indeed.

Which means apps is still king no matter how faithful you are towards symbian.

oh no,, i just interested n wanna buy nokia E5 ,,now i gotta see other platform? android maybe sob3

android - apps, symbian - camera that beats dslr big time, it all depends on the needs, if u need both might s well buy 2 phones then hahahaha

still got working tough nokia 5800Xm and Samsung Omnia HD symbian. i feel sad how internal struggle in nokia let symbian die. in fact, symbian was not far away from android in similarities. just symbian is taken slow moving to bulit the ecosystem for it's sustainability so lead to it's death. developers whos developing symbian previously is leaving them to androids to secure their job. nobody will stay with the sinking boat.

symbian will always a 'guru' to all IOS...no symbian, no androids. Shame NOKIA,
no wonder u also sink with it.

RIP symbian.

goodbye my love

too bad. now everryone goes ios and andriod !! i am a fan of nokia since nokia 3310, 8210, n95, n8, n9... WHY nokia treat me so bad

guys,
i have a problem with my N8,
i want to factory reset it but the problem is my sister forget the security code of the phone.
i tried the 3 keys hard reset,
still no luck,
plus im too lazy and cheapskate to sent to Nokia Care centre,
is there solution to use the phone back?

my last symbian phone was sony ericsson vivaz..
a nice phone..
but i hate the keyboard.. symbian screen ratio made it almost impossible to use qwerty keyboard in potrait mode..

Try to find online what's the password? For default.

Ya, I also dislike qwerty keyboard in Nokia. It too small screen. I use the normal phone keyboard only lolz.

sad to know that Symbian is dead as it is really a good phone as newer generations that is category of old uncle market or the image of holding a Nokia black and white / or Color phone.

I always keep it as my second or third phone as really good for standby as needed.

I wish that Symbian OS will not die completely. Coz many many old uncle like me will cry....coz Symbian had already brought us Happy time, a good value phone for us. Still can remember my first Symbian Phone by Sony Ericsson that with GPRS and then Nokia phone with 3G.

symbian a good memory my whole secondary school is nokia symbian phone that time its more of song and sms.

Symbian was popular once a long time ago but it never upgrade.. Then ios improve alot and then android platform is coming and they offer nokia only but nokia refused so they go for other , se , htc , motorolla , samsung etc..

time for a change..

after 808 pureview, i think i will jump ship to Note 3 or 4 or so on.... look so tempting.

only thing i will missed is the camera and the offline worldwide GPS.

bye symbian, hello windows phones.

we had good memories,symbian.

really had good memories with symbian..

my first phone

still keeping my n8 as spare phone..

Yes, it's unavoidable. It's not actually dead but there is no more support for few important softwares, the most important being Whatsapp and for that reason I have moved on from the Nokia Pureview 808 since last year.

The Nokia Pureview 808 remains the king when it comes to photography apart from the Panasonic CM1. It's my favourite camera phones as I always turn to it when I need to take high quality images.

IKR :

ahhh the ol' times favorite activity of mine - cooking custom ROM for my 5800

if symbian is still alive it would be dead because of the OS limitation and lack of apps support. Meego had a future but nokia killed it

Kids nowadays will never knew what symbians is. I grow up with 3310, then first color phone, then nokia sabun 6600, then nokia N series, and suddenly there's iphone and android.

Love the nokia N series. So many models, and various advertising. I remember the N95 being sold at RM2099 at Low Yat plaza. My first N series is N73, bought at 1.4k. So many sweet memory during that Era. Java games, Ultra MP3 app, etc. Ahh good old days.

symbian memories remain. N series and E series.

Lack innovation is the key 2 the death

Just like how Grab chew Uber 2 the death bed

Biggest mistake Stephen Elop ever did which still broke Nokia today

Haha same here

Equally an old fart class like you

I was a candy phone kaki more than sliding phone

N73 N82 was my jam till N8 the first Nokia flatscreen ever

I skip pureview because at that time most apps like whatsapps already in either iOS or Android

If given Nokia resurrections of its glory days i would like 2 sex with N95-N97 hahahaha

Here will do with N95 N96 N97 hahahaha

This post has been edited by skylinelover: Sep 11 2018, 12:27 PM

I think elop doing it on purpose.

Thought i like 2 comeback 2 say what the cock

The highest end ultra S20 is 4999 which can buy 2 and a half N95 back then

The smartphone depreciation is real mang🙈🤦‍♂️

me too good'ol time

This post has been edited by CyberSundayz: Jan 31 2021, 02:31 PM