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post May 23 2012, 02:21 PM, updated 14y ago

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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5235707066


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We're in the process of removing the on-use benefits of the Mantra of Healing rune, Boon of Protection. The hotfix change is:

Amount of damage absorbed is now capped at the amount of healing provided by Mantra of Healing in the first 3 seconds after activation


We recommend discontinuing its use until the rune is replaced with a new rune and mechanic in a future patch.

The Boon of Protection rune was approximately ten times over its budget on the benefits it provided, and it was quite simply a mistake on our part to let the rune ship as it was. We don't intend to take these quick and drastic measures often, but considering the severity of the issue, we felt it important to correct it swiftly.

We're shooting to post a full list of recent hotfixes tomorrow, and will be looking to answer questions once that's live.
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post May 23 2012, 02:23 PM

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what that skill do ? take 0 damage for long time ?
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post May 23 2012, 02:26 PM

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well i taking heal mantra with 3 spirit per second rune so i not affected i guess.
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post May 23 2012, 02:46 PM

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Awww was expected ...but still make crazy amount gold selling monk weapon to new monk user...but inferno will be much much harder now without that imba skill

Have to farm like crazy in inferno b4 this patch is implemented xD
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post May 23 2012, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(narf03 @ May 23 2012, 02:23 PM)
what that skill do ? take 0 damage for long time ?
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1. only heal that has NO cooldown.
2. only heal that is scalable (like, if youre lvl 20+ it heals 1500hp a second, lvl50+ heals 5k a sec shocking.gif )
3. can spam the heal and pretty much makes them invincible, good for hell-inferno

at least this is what i deducted from blizzard forum lah. don't really know since i don't play monk, but now i kind of regret it cry.gif
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post May 23 2012, 02:49 PM

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Oh crap, tis is way so imba, I got 200 hp regen per second, in nightmare mode, am kind of good tanker also.

Thn wif monk ability... ==
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post May 23 2012, 02:53 PM

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It's not affected the mantra of healing itself - i.e not the HPS.

It only affected the rune - boon of protection.

If I read it right, it will give you a shield that absorbs damage up to 15% of your life for the first 2 seconds after you activate it. So if you "spam" it (no CD, but costs 50 spirit), it will give pretty much a shield to absorb the blow. Since it's 15% of your life, if you run high vitality, it will absorb plenty. (changed now to the same amount of 3 ticks of mantra of healing, right?)

...but it's not taking away that that Mantra is another one of those heal when needed biggrin.gif
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post May 23 2012, 02:55 PM

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That explains why a monk with half my HP can tank better than I do dry.gif
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post May 23 2012, 02:55 PM

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Welcome to Blizzard balancing 101! tongue.gif

1) Overbuffs an ability or class
2) Hears player complaints
3) NERF TO THE GROUND!
4) Hears player QQ about the nerf

Several months later...

5) Buffs the same ability or class slightly to silence QQers
6) Hears more player complaints
7) NERFS EVEN HARDER TO THE GROUND!

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post May 23 2012, 03:10 PM

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i dont care about game balancing right now... hopefully the hack issues which blizzard refuse to acknowledge will be 'magically' gone after the patch.
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post May 23 2012, 03:35 PM

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didn't know about this skill.

after this thread, i went to play with the skill ........... ehhh nice leh!! tongue.gif i nearly beat Nightmare mode Diablo (Act IV). only got careless at final bit (1/4 hp left of him) and no pot on me. sad.gif


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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ May 23 2012, 02:55 PM)
Welcome to Blizzard balancing 101!  tongue.gif

1) Overbuffs an ability or class
2) Hears player complaints
3) NERF TO THE GROUND!
4) Hears player QQ about the nerf

Several months later...

5) Buffs the same ability or class slightly to silence QQers
6) Hears more player complaints
7) NERFS EVEN HARDER TO THE GROUND!
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haha. Starcraft II at this point I also donno what is what already. Compare to V1 soooooooooo different.

and i guess all those Open / Close Beta they didn't realize anything eh?
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post May 23 2012, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(I<3LYN @ May 23 2012, 03:10 PM)
i dont care about game balancing right now...  hopefully the hack issues which blizzard refuse to acknowledge will be 'magically' gone after the patch.
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well you should, 'cause they openly said that their priority right now is [strike]nerfing[/strike]balancing game mechanics is their priority right now.

notworthy.gif blizzard knows best. right? right? rolleyes.gif
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post May 23 2012, 03:41 PM

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so, monk is equivalent to paladin in WoW in terms of oh-pee-ness and degree of nerfs received??
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post May 23 2012, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ May 23 2012, 03:41 PM)
so, monk is equivalent to paladin in WoW in terms of oh-pee-ness and degree of nerfs received??
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where got? dps wizard and demon hunter still higher dps than monk.
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post May 23 2012, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(C-Fu @ May 23 2012, 03:36 PM)
well you should, 'cause they openly said that their priority right now is nerfingbalancing game mechanics is their priority right now.

notworthy.gif blizzard knows best. right? right?  rolleyes.gif
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Fixed for you tongue.gif
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post May 23 2012, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ May 23 2012, 03:43 PM)
where got? dps wizard and demon hunter still higher dps than monk.
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+1

monk is js good at tanking...lol
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post May 23 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ May 23 2012, 03:43 PM)
where got? dps wizard and demon hunter still higher dps than monk.
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with the bug exploit of clever use of game mechanics with 'quickening' for spirit regeneration and no-cool-down healing skills, just made it sounded like paladin class during last WoW expansion, making the class able solo tanking few players in battle ground
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post May 23 2012, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(aLertz @ May 23 2012, 03:44 PM)
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monk is js good at tanking...lol
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thats y funny when a barb which should be tanker has more rubbish tanking skill than a monk which is not naturally a tanker.. =.='.. monk can survive more with a lower hp than a barb with a damn high hp.. shakehead.gif


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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ May 23 2012, 04:01 PM)
with the bug exploit of clever use of game mechanics with 'quickening' for spirit regeneration and no-cool-down healing skills, just made it sounded like paladin class during last WoW expansion, making the class able solo tanking few players in battle ground
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i rather they come out extra char like purely tanker - paladin and barb to be purely physical dmg creator.. look at the weapon that everyone can use any weapon also break my heart.. =.='.. then it looks like even wiz n dh can tank like barb.. make barb not special at all..

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post May 23 2012, 04:17 PM

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you are right, wd use 2h bow? wtf
they need to have some bonus 50% for use own specific class weapon like diablo 2
it really doesn't make sense when everyone looking for highest dps regardless the type of weapon -.-
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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ May 23 2012, 04:01 PM)
with the bug exploit of clever use of game mechanics with 'quickening' for spirit regeneration and no-cool-down healing skills, just made it sounded like paladin class during last WoW expansion, making the class able solo tanking few players in battle ground
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what is quickening btw.

monks supposed to be healer and tanker btw.
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post May 23 2012, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(shincy @ May 23 2012, 04:17 PM)
you are right, wd use 2h bow? wtf
they need to have some bonus 50% for use own specific class weapon like diablo 2
it really doesn't make sense when everyone looking for highest dps regardless the type of weapon -.-
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so i think that we (barb) should use wand or staff whistling.gif
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post May 23 2012, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(jackiewong @ May 23 2012, 04:31 PM)
so i think that we (barb) should use wand or staff  whistling.gif
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so do the wizards use 2h axe? rclxms.gif
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post May 23 2012, 04:41 PM

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how about giving that to us barbs. smile.gif


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QUOTE(shincy @ May 23 2012, 04:36 PM)
so do the wizards use 2h axe?  rclxms.gif
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actually, at one point in time.. my wizard actually was wielding 2h axe
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post May 23 2012, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ May 23 2012, 04:18 PM)
what is quickening btw.

monks supposed to be healer and tanker btw.
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excerpt from some sites:
Sweeping Wind + Fist of Thunder(Quickening) = Infinite spirit

too bad it is patched...
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post May 23 2012, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(shincy @ May 23 2012, 04:36 PM)
so do the wizards use 2h axe?  rclxms.gif
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they did XD.. even my part time wiz i used 1h axe n 1h shield even 2h sword.. lol.. but honestly la.. if they wan to patch then make every char a little bit more special on their specialize la.. barb like chiplak char.. not the most tankable char.. not the highest dmg creator.. not the fastest attacker.. not the bestest magic creator.. so is like barb, u r everything but at the same time u r nothing.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(C-Fu @ May 23 2012, 02:21 PM)
where got monk use tat lame rune to solo in inferno doh.gif
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I was a wizard, using an axe at some point. Was hilarious looking at it.... running around and casting spell with it. the axe has some very nice +int on it.
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so when is this patch will be released ? as of today anyone got updated ?
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post May 23 2012, 05:59 PM

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So um... any news on what time is the patch tongue.gif

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monk is too damn strong
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post May 23 2012, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(Hornet @ May 23 2012, 05:59 PM)
So um... any news on what time is the patch tongue.gif
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erm, not tomorrow actually.

it's now tongue.gif
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post May 24 2012, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(jackiewong @ May 23 2012, 04:02 PM)
thats y funny when a barb which should be tanker has more rubbish tanking skill than a monk which is not naturally a tanker.. =.='.. monk can survive more with a lower hp than a barb with a damn high hp..  shakehead.gif


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i rather they come out extra char like purely tanker - paladin and barb to be purely physical dmg creator.. look at the weapon that everyone can use any weapon also break my heart.. =.='.. then it looks like even wiz n dh can tank like barb.. make barb not special at all..
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QUOTE(jackiewong @ May 23 2012, 04:53 PM)
they did XD.. even my part time wiz i used 1h axe n 1h shield even 2h sword.. lol.. but honestly la.. if they wan to patch then make every char a little bit more special on their specialize la.. barb like chiplak char.. not the most tankable char.. not the highest dmg creator.. not the fastest attacker.. not the bestest magic creator.. so is like barb, u r everything but at the same time u r nothing..  doh.gif
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Yeap, very agree, my barba everyday also cry.... T_T

But act 1 hell mode now... hit js starting tat zombie like rock... @O@
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post May 24 2012, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(OldKidz @ May 24 2012, 10:59 AM)
Yeap, very agree, my barba everyday also cry.... T_T

But act 1 hell mode now... hit js starting tat zombie like rock... @O@
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I went sword and board barb, going to finish act 1 hell tonight tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ May 24 2012, 11:04 AM)
I went sword and board barb, going to finish act 1 hell tonight  tongue.gif
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solo? so far so good? i heard bb will got hard time in inferno..
can share ur hp and dps? smile.gif

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QUOTE(melvintcs @ May 24 2012, 11:06 AM)
solo? so far so good? i heard bb will got hard time in inferno..
can share ur hp and dps? smile.gif
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Got 20k hp, 6k armor (68% damage reduction), 2.7k dps
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ May 24 2012, 12:01 PM)
Got 20k hp, 6k armor (68% damage reduction), 2.7k dps
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Wah, no wonder lar, ur stuff far better thn me.

19k, 4k armor, 2k less dps... sad.gif
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Seriously i dont understand how to calculate barb damage. Since u guys already at hell lv. Y izzit the dps not even more then 5k. While dh lv around 50 can achieve around 7-10k already. Isnt it a huge gap? Lol. Just for sharing. My dh lv47 last time already 5.2k. So is melee damage calculation merely lower?
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QUOTE(RedEclipse @ May 24 2012, 12:30 PM)
Seriously i dont understand how to calculate barb damage. Since u guys already at hell lv. Y izzit the dps not even more then 5k. While dh lv around 50 can achieve around 7-10k already. Isnt it a huge gap? Lol. Just for sharing. My dh lv47 last time already 5.2k. So is melee damage calculation merely lower?
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Uhmmm no lar, we scarify str and pump vit to tank instead. I can reach 5k even at level 4x but thn die when wanna hit elite etc.

You can play damage barbarian but thn if your barbarian kenot tank, you cant even hit mobs, you will be running only.
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QUOTE(OldKidz @ May 24 2012, 12:34 PM)
Uhmmm no lar, we scarify str and pump vit to tank instead. I can reach 5k even at level 4x but thn die when wanna hit elite etc.

You can play damage barbarian but thn if your barbarian kenot tank, you cant even hit mobs, you will be running only.
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Ohhhh true. No wonder barb got alot of complaint then. Cannot deal damage cannot tank lol. More armor can tank more then higher hp?
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QUOTE(RedEclipse @ May 24 2012, 12:39 PM)
Ohhhh true. No wonder barb got alot of complaint then. Cannot deal damage cannot tank lol. More armor can tank more then higher hp?
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Uhhmmm, yeap, damage not so high, kenot tank like a rock. sad.gif

Armor for physical, more scare bout those magic, life long need regen life even life per hit only good I guess.

 

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