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TSregza_xlr8
post May 23 2012, 09:36 AM, updated 14y ago

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Just want to check, anybody know about Metro-E by TM ? try to google but its just basic info, no pricing and requirement details.
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post May 23 2012, 10:27 AM

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Never use it before but IME usually these type of service is quoted on a case to case basis. It's best you hook up with their sales and let them know what you need exactly for a price quotation.
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post May 23 2012, 10:55 AM

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so no specific price or package offered ? how about the technical site ? do they need any special requirement from the building? special cable ? coverage ?
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post May 23 2012, 11:16 AM

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There is no published price for this. As what Sieg has said, hook up with their Sales team for quotation. They can tell you more info on special requirement, coverage etc.
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post May 23 2012, 11:17 AM

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I believe they will have those requirement, especially coverage. Again it's best to ask directly. Depending on the type of speed you want. It will involve different charges. It's a very flexible service. Hence everything including the price is also flexible. That is why there is no fixed pricing info.

This post has been edited by Sieg: May 23 2012, 11:22 AM
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post May 24 2012, 05:26 PM

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ok, thanks guys, very helpful, planning to get for our factory site in shah alam glenmarie, there still no unifi covered, currently using screamyx, its really sux
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post May 24 2012, 05:40 PM

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Regza, what u looking at is actually direct over metro e (dome) product.. Shah alam glenmarie is tm metroe ready.

If u only referring to metro e point to point, there will be no internet access, but dome is internet connectivity on metroe local access.

How many mbps internet speed u looking at, bare in mind dome product pricing is not the same as unifi, dome product comes with sla, dedicated noc (1060) and service engineer. Cisco or juniper router etc etc.

20mbps unifi biz is 899/month while dome will range faround 150k-200k/year for 20mbps.

Pm me if u need detail pricing as i can give u indicative price.

Do let me know the office location and how many mb require plus contract term u looking at.

At the same time please define ur sla require. 99.7, 99.8, 99.9 or 99.99%.

all different pricing plus different last mile setup.

Once u have the indicative pricing, do forward it to tm sme,enterprise selangor for ordering ( subject to your line of business, manufacturing, fsi, plantation etc) they will assign specific account manager plus sales person if u subscribe to this service.

This post has been edited by RS232C: May 24 2012, 05:41 PM
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post May 24 2012, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(RS232C @ May 24 2012, 05:40 PM)
20mbps unifi biz is 899/month while dome will range faround 150k-200k/year for 20mbps.
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To what extent will this vary dependent on contract term, SLA, and last-mile setup?

Which one has a greater impact on costs? Or it depends?

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post May 24 2012, 09:22 PM

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Longer contract term resulting cheaper annual recurring charge

Higher sla higher annual recurring charge.

IINM dome sla comes with rebate means, for any sla breach for that particular month a rebate will be imposed on the next bill cycle. Last- mile setup will be depending on sla, example 99.99% sla will have 2 UPE, 2 fiber from 2 different physicsl termination point.

Let me give u guys some indicative price for 10, 20, 30, 50, 100mbps price with 20% discount from shelf price.

One more thing, bigger bandwidth = lower price per mbps


Added on May 24, 2012, 9:47 pmindicative Price

For 99.7% SLA with 20% discount
10Mbps | 1 year | ARC RM157,440 | OTC 24,000
10Mbps | 3 years | ARC RM126,183 | OTC RM24,000
20 Mbps | 1 year | ARC RM 247,040 | OTC RM24,000
20 Mbps | 3 years | ARC 195,106 | OTC RM 24,000
100 Mbps | 3 years | ARC 746,491 | OTC RM24,000

For 99.99% SLA with 20 discount
20 Mbps | 3 years | ARC 390,212 | OTC RM24,000
100 Mbps | 3 years | ARC 1,492,982 | OTC 24,000

please be informed this is indicative, at any point of time, this pricing shall not be use for real sales negotiation.

tips, you can always press the sales person to give up to 30% discount, higher then that i havent seen one except to government sectors, financial institutions and MNC. since they usually take > 100Mbps.

This post has been edited by RS232C: May 24 2012, 09:47 PM
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post May 25 2012, 11:02 AM

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what "ARC" and "OTC" stand for ??
RS232C
post May 25 2012, 11:42 AM

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ARC - Annual Recurring Charge
OTC - One Time Charge


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post May 30 2012, 11:19 PM

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this is really some business talk...
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post Aug 1 2017, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(RS232C @ May 24 2012, 09:22 PM)
Longer contract term resulting cheaper annual recurring charge

Higher sla higher annual recurring charge.

IINM dome sla comes with rebate means, for any sla breach for that particular month a rebate will be imposed on the next bill cycle. Last- mile setup will be depending on sla, example 99.99% sla will have 2 UPE, 2 fiber from 2 different physicsl termination point.

Let me give u guys some indicative price for 10, 20, 30, 50, 100mbps price with 20% discount from shelf price.

One more thing, bigger bandwidth = lower price per mbps


Added on May 24, 2012, 9:47 pmindicative Price

For 99.7% SLA with 20% discount
10Mbps | 1 year | ARC RM157,440 | OTC 24,000
10Mbps | 3 years | ARC RM126,183 | OTC RM24,000
20 Mbps | 1 year | ARC RM 247,040 | OTC RM24,000
20 Mbps | 3 years | ARC 195,106 | OTC RM 24,000
100 Mbps | 3 years | ARC 746,491 | OTC RM24,000

For 99.99% SLA with 20 discount
20 Mbps | 3 years | ARC 390,212 | OTC RM24,000
100 Mbps | 3 years | ARC 1,492,982 | OTC 24,000

please be informed this is indicative, at any point of time, this pricing shall not be use for real sales negotiation.

tips, you can always press the sales person to give up to 30% discount, higher then that i havent seen one except to government sectors, financial institutions and MNC. since they usually take > 100Mbps.
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i am looking to renew contract for my office at taman melawati. is this indicative price still valid? it's been 5 years now so it should be lower now
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post Aug 1 2017, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(neoli18 @ Aug 1 2017, 04:12 PM)
i am looking to renew contract for my office at taman melawati. is this indicative price still valid? it's been 5 years now so it should be lower now
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I think more expensive as ringgit has depreciated a lot
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post Aug 2 2017, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(neoli18 @ Aug 1 2017, 04:12 PM)
i am looking to renew contract for my office at taman melawati. is this indicative price still valid? it's been 5 years now so it should be lower now
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Hi, its been 5 years and the price now is very competetive, but i no longer attached to TM nor its subsidiaries. Im doing pretty much my own now.

From the indicative price given back in 2012, its safe to assume now its 50% cheaper or more as more and more telco had expanded their network ring across klang valley.

2 years ago i got even an offer from a telco 10M metroE at 30K++/annum. Its Onnet location so its very very competetive.


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post Aug 4 2017, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(RS232C @ May 24 2012, 09:22 PM)
Longer contract term resulting cheaper annual recurring charge

Higher sla higher annual recurring charge.

IINM dome sla comes with rebate means, for any sla breach for that particular month a rebate will be imposed on the next bill cycle. Last- mile setup will be depending on sla, example 99.99% sla will have 2 UPE, 2 fiber from 2 different physicsl termination point.

Let me give u guys some indicative price for 10, 20, 30, 50, 100mbps price with 20% discount from shelf price.

One more thing, bigger bandwidth = lower price per mbps


Added on May 24, 2012, 9:47 pmindicative Price

For 99.7% SLA with 20% discount
10Mbps | 1 year | ARC RM157,440 | OTC 24,000
10Mbps | 3 years | ARC RM126,183 | OTC RM24,000
20 Mbps | 1 year | ARC RM 247,040 | OTC RM24,000
20 Mbps | 3 years | ARC 195,106 | OTC RM 24,000
100 Mbps | 3 years | ARC 746,491 | OTC RM24,000

For 99.99% SLA with 20 discount
20 Mbps | 3 years | ARC 390,212 | OTC RM24,000
100 Mbps | 3 years | ARC 1,492,982 | OTC 24,000

please be informed this is indicative, at any point of time, this pricing shall not be use for real sales negotiation.

tips, you can always press the sales person to give up to 30% discount, higher then that i havent seen one except to government sectors, financial institutions and MNC. since they usually take > 100Mbps.
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Hi bro, this pricing is from which service provider? Direct from TM?

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post Aug 4 2017, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(jimchan @ Aug 4 2017, 11:41 AM)
Hi bro, this pricing is from which service provider? Direct from TM?
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now there are too many provider provide metro E services include Wireless metro E.
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post Aug 4 2017, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(jimchan @ Aug 4 2017, 11:41 AM)
Hi bro, this pricing is from which service provider? Direct from TM?
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This is very old pricing, safe to say 50% or more cheaper now. This is from TM, Fiberail, Fibrecomm
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post Aug 7 2017, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(RS232C @ Aug 4 2017, 08:27 PM)
This is very old pricing, safe to say 50% or more cheaper now. This is from TM, Fiberail, Fibrecomm
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No wonder the price so high.. Hahaha

If my price selling like this.. I'm earning like mad
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post Aug 7 2017, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(jimchan @ Aug 7 2017, 03:15 PM)
No wonder the price so high.. Hahaha

If my price selling like this.. I'm earning like mad
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That post was posted back in 2012

Someone necro'ed this thread. Now very competetive, as mentioned now cheaper 50% of more from back then.
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post Dec 7 2017, 05:38 PM

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any how i can get a pricing range for my budget proposal?
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post Dec 18 2017, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(kaiwoon @ Dec 7 2017, 05:38 PM)
any how i can get  a pricing range for my budget proposal?
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You looking at how much bandwidth?
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post Feb 22 2019, 02:59 PM

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hi, anybody here recently getting any latest pricing on metro-e(dome) from TM. wonder how much is cost now?. really want to know
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post Feb 22 2019, 06:35 PM


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Hi all,
im currently managing DOME/IPME for TM customer...
can PM me for more details...if ask about pricing..TM have diff price regarding the customer..bcoz sometime it bundle with VAS etc...
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post Feb 22 2019, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(RS232C @ Aug 4 2017, 08:27 PM)
This is very old pricing, safe to say 50% or more cheaper now. This is from TM, Fiberail, Fibrecomm
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Im curious though, what would the price be like if you wanted 1Gb/s WAN over 2 fiber optic cables but providing own engineer, hardware, etc? And lets say for last mile the fiber optic cables self provided?

Because looking at old pricing might be the reason why malaysian datacenters provide only like 1Mb/s bandwidth per server for WAN.
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post Feb 23 2019, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(garanzia @ Feb 22 2019, 02:59 PM)
hi, anybody here recently getting any latest pricing on metro-e(dome) from TM. wonder how much is cost now?. really want to know
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Depending on location. If Onnet i just close a ME deal 100M for 60K/annum, most telco can offer that pricing now. my own services 10G ME DCI around 15K/month

QUOTE(System Error Message @ Feb 22 2019, 07:18 PM)
Im curious though, what would the price be like if you wanted 1Gb/s WAN over 2 fiber optic cables but providing own engineer, hardware, etc? And lets say for last mile the fiber optic cables self provided?

Because looking at old pricing might be the reason why malaysian datacenters provide only like 1Mb/s bandwidth per server for WAN.
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Your question is not clear.
>1G Point to Point between Where to Where? Domestic eline is more expensive than IEPL
> most provider now just give you ethernet last mile (optical/electrical).
> engineer hardware etc is consider value added service. Since back then....this service is pure optional but most enterprise sales will bundle this unecessar stuff. Wholesale offering is always bare.
> whats your definition of last mile? you saying you pull your own fiber to nearest telco demarc? most onnet location telco demarc is at MDF/IDF, you just need need to prepare internal wiring at your terminating demarc
> 1M DIA is very old offering. 10M-100M DIA/IP Transit for enterprises with infra colocated in DC is pretty common now.

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post Feb 25 2019, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(RS232C @ Feb 23 2019, 01:28 AM)
Depending on location. If Onnet i just close a ME deal 100M for 60K/annum, most telco can offer that pricing now. my own services 10G ME DCI around 15K/month
Your question is not clear.
>1G Point to Point between Where to Where? Domestic eline is more expensive than IEPL
> most provider now just give you ethernet last mile (optical/electrical).
> engineer hardware etc is consider value added service. Since back then....this service is pure optional but most enterprise sales will bundle this unecessar stuff. Wholesale offering is always bare.
> whats  your definition of last mile? you saying you pull your own fiber to nearest telco demarc? most onnet location telco demarc is at MDF/IDF, you just need need to prepare internal wiring at your terminating demarc
> 1M DIA is very old offering. 10M-100M DIA/IP Transit for enterprises with infra colocated in DC is pretty common now.
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Above you mentioned 10G DCI for 15K/month, but what if i wanted a dedicated line instead rather than interconnect, like those that buildings, complexes and organisations use to connect them to the internet.

Not only a faster link, but things like BGP for example. So for instance, lets say you have a few mini datacenters, one per country scattered, rather than having super expensive dedicated links, multi 10G links to the internet may suffice and user just connect them with tunnels/VPN, these arent public datacenters, rather private ones for things like AI and data processing as an example, typically such a company would have own hardware and engineers and only need to connect cable to the outside, what would your offer be like?
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post Feb 25 2019, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(System Error Message @ Feb 25 2019, 12:36 PM)
Above you mentioned 10G DCI for 15K/month, but what if i wanted a dedicated line instead rather than interconnect, like those that buildings, complexes and organisations use to connect them to the internet.

Not only a faster link, but things like BGP for example. So for instance, lets say you have a few mini datacenters, one per country scattered, rather than having super expensive dedicated links, multi 10G links to the internet may suffice and user just connect them with tunnels/VPN, these arent public datacenters, rather private ones for things like AI and data processing as an example, typically such a company would have own hardware and engineers and only need to connect cable to the outside, what would your offer be like?
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based on your input. its better to opt for SD-WAN approach.. there is a lot of hybrid SD-WAN operator that you can choose from

or if you have your own AS number and wanted to opt for IP Transit. In Malaysia. current go rate for IP Transit is around $2-$10/Mb/MRC for 10G. if you want cheaper IP Transit alternative you can go downsouth singapore where IP Transit cost in between $0.2-$2. HE for instanace offering $0.25/Mb but the route sucks. IEPL across the causeway will set you around $8000-$10K for 10G. IEPL across causeway still expensive as SG government impose matching capacity charges. You also need to factor in XC cost as most DC provider charge MRC for DC. If its in Malaysia...it will be in MYR while Singapore in $USD
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QUOTE(RS232C @ Feb 25 2019, 07:09 PM)
based on your input. its better to opt for SD-WAN approach.. there is a lot of hybrid SD-WAN operator that you can choose from

or if you have your own AS number and wanted to opt for IP Transit. In Malaysia. current go rate for IP Transit is around $2-$10/Mb/MRC for 10G. if you want cheaper IP Transit alternative you can go downsouth singapore where IP Transit cost in between $0.2-$2. HE for instanace offering $0.25/Mb but the route sucks. IEPL across the causeway will set you around $8000-$10K for 10G. IEPL across causeway still expensive as SG government impose matching capacity charges. You also need to factor in XC cost as most DC provider charge MRC for DC. If its in Malaysia...it will be in MYR while Singapore in $USD
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so you're saying for international traffic, singapore is better? feels terrible that malaysia refused the internet hub project years ago that it went to singapore, which impacts cost of internet in malaysia.

So the prices you quote are all in USD and not MYR?
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post Feb 25 2019, 07:29 PM

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I guess this should be the cable internet access which offered by TM in the future.



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QUOTE(junclj @ Feb 25 2019, 07:29 PM)
I guess this should be the cable internet access which offered by TM in the future.


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Sounds old, for a moment there i thought you were gonna say cable is the choice as some offer 2Gb/s downloads but with a poultry <100Mb/s upload.

Symmetrical is important, TM already offers fiber optics but with asymmetrical speeds.

Also DSL goes up to 300Mb/s currently via VDSL, there are faster versions coming out soon. Anything newer than VDSL 1 is not offered by TM/maxis, hence the limited DSL speeds in high rise.
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QUOTE(System Error Message @ Feb 25 2019, 07:27 PM)
so you're saying for international traffic, singapore is better? feels terrible that malaysia refused the internet hub project years ago that it went to singapore, which impacts cost of internet in malaysia.

So the prices you quote are all in USD and not MYR?
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not better, just that most subsea cable landing in singapore. hence they enjoy higher competition rate and good for wholesale consumer

for IEPL standard pricing in $, unless stated otherwise (ie $ symbol) ...figure is in MYR
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post Mar 7 2019, 05:50 PM

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Hi guys, I'm doing Metro E services.

If you guys interested, you may PM me for more information.

My company itself is an ISP with BGP and we are have ASP license and also a member of MyIX.

We have our own AS number and we're at TM Wholesale level so our price are competitive thumbup.gif

Feel free to PM me anytime thumbsup.gif
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post Nov 18 2019, 02:05 PM

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Is there any others provider for metro-e except TM Dome?
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post Nov 18 2019, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(sayut @ Nov 18 2019, 02:05 PM)
Is there any others provider for metro-e except TM Dome?
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The key feature of a MetroE is to hook you up to the nearest telco datacentre or node within 1-2 hops away then from there you get access directly to the internet.

Normal consumer/business shared services is much more complicated and involves many more hops before reaching the telco's gateway.

There are a few other players in the MetroE market:

NTT MSC
Extreme Broadband
Time
MyKris
IP Core
Aries Telecom
City Broadband
MacroLynx
Viewqwest
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post Nov 19 2019, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(sayut @ Nov 18 2019, 02:05 PM)
Is there any others provider for metro-e except TM Dome?
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NGN Connection Sdn Bhd

We are also one of the players in the market
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post May 27 2024, 01:58 PM

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Hi Guys,

My company subscribed TM DOME (SD-WAN), but our company have a firewall connected behind the ISP Router. I try to bypass the Router and connect the Firewall direct to the Fiber (TM NID).

our goal is simple, we just want to bypass the ISP router and remain the package (due to newly signed up) use with our own Firewall. Therefore, any method we can configure the ISP connection (same like PPPoE connection for unifi package) to save all the time and efforts.

current setup:

TM PRI (WAN1) | TM SEC (WAN2)

connect to

Cisco Meraki

connect to

Fortigate Firewall

connect to VPN (and VLAN)

Switch - WLC - servers.

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we try to bypass the meraki router and replace with our own Fortigate Firewall.
but TM gives a lots of reasons, have to pull new cables, assign new IPs, penalties etc.




 

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