Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Any good and reliable interior designer?

views
     
yllew03
post Jul 24 2018, 07:57 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
23 posts

Joined: Dec 2012
can anyone give your opinion on the below terms based on your understanding? In what conditions the deposit is not refundable?

“Refundable if we are appointed as the main contractor for all construction scopes only and will be refunded only after the renovation deposit is received”
yllew03
post Jul 25 2018, 11:49 AM

New Member
*
Newbie
23 posts

Joined: Dec 2012
QUOTE(enriquelee @ Jul 25 2018, 09:42 AM)
In what conditions the deposit is not refundable?
1) if they are not appointed as the main contractor
2) if they have not receive the renovation deposit.
My interpretation solely rely on the phrase.
*
Yes, that is my understanding as well, but it is not.
The phrase is stated in the design fee quotation.
Deposit has been paid before design/3D drawing.
After 3D drawing, I appointed him as main contractor.
At the final stage of reno, he said the deposit is not refundable. He said “The refund of the design fee will only be eligible if we were appointed as main contractor for all scopes from A-Z including furniture purchase, curtain, bed frame etc. Only sofa and bed I use back my existing one, fan I purchased, curtain I engage curtain maker before the project and already inform him during the 1st meeting, and he accepted but verbal only.
So I am wondering is this common in the Interior Design and Build world.

yllew03
post Jul 25 2018, 06:58 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
23 posts

Joined: Dec 2012
QUOTE(ehwee @ Jul 25 2018, 04:53 PM)
Did your main contractor has b&w written quotation stated with t&c " The refund of the design fee will only be eligible if we were appointed as main contractor for all scopes " as he said to you.

if no b&w, it will be hard for you to argue with him.
*
Only below is written in the quotation t&c.
“Refundable if we are appointed as the main contractor for all construction scopes only and will be refunded only after the renovation deposit is received”

Never mentioned all construction scopes means A-Z include furniture, curtain and so on. All the structural works, flooring, ceiling, painting, glass&aluminium, m&e, aircon and carpentry for the whole unit was done by him, although I know some of the items he charge much higher than market, plus paying project management fee, yet still considered not all scope, so speechless and no point arguing, I will pay anyhow. Learn a lesson.
yllew03
post Jul 25 2018, 07:34 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
23 posts

Joined: Dec 2012
QUOTE(ehwee @ Jul 25 2018, 07:22 PM)
That's the definition of " all construction scopes " makes the argument then.

Most design and build firms will separate design fee and the construction quotation, they will ask for upfront fee for design drawings

Whether they will return these design fee for client is depend on their company policy, some of them will return  or deduct the design fee from the total construction cost when you decide to appoint them for construction as per their quotation.

Some of company will not deduct the design fee even if you appoint them for construction works later part.

Yet your main contractor ask for deposit, is this deposit is part of the construction cost or as a design fee?

This you will need to clarify with him upfront before they actually start the design process.
*
Yes, it was design fee, but he said will be used for construction works if we appoint him, design fee will be waived, verbally. Now project going to end, he said refund not eligible.
yllew03
post Jul 26 2018, 01:15 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
23 posts

Joined: Dec 2012
QUOTE(enriquelee @ Jul 26 2018, 09:24 AM)
I would say the scope of work of main contractor shall confine to what he has designed during the design stage.
*
This is a painful lesson learnt. Construction to my understanding should only cover the activity of constructing every single piece of an object on his own, not purchasing a ready made object.

 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0186sec    0.44    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 15th December 2025 - 06:56 AM