Dunno about u... I have been using RON95 since introduction. Only recently my car started having e-throttle problems after switching back to RON97.

When you dont know how the oil industry work, better to just keep your 2cent to yourself. Fuel formulation is subjective and dependent on different oil companies and we dont add additive to boast RON92 fuel to RON95.

Not only it is more expensive to do so, its completely stupid to produce RON92 fuel and then later
add additive to boast the octane number. Doing so would make your fuel product inconsistent, not to mention the extra hassle. Daily production for a typical refinery runs up to millions of barrel per day and each barrel is around 42 gallon.



This post has been edited by 779364: Aug 1 2012, 10:35 PM

i'm keeping my 2cents to myself by not choosing this oil.. but some ppl just not happy about it .. dont know why ??

Apparently you don't know what "keeping my 2cents to myself" means

It's not that people are not happt, it's because you mislead people by spreading your theory

You mean whole world using Ron 97 while only here using 95?

What a claim for the bolded part.

what is your proof??
which people that sends car to workshop give you this statement?
or which research shows that because of RON95, the number of car in workshop is increasing?

i don't think ppl are not happy about you using RON97. No one give a damn on your money. Is just that facts are to be proven. We talk based on facts. Prove is the most important thing. If i tell you an asteroid will hit the earth tomorrow, will you believe me? i got no prove to show you. But if an astrology say that, the whole world will be panic. because they can give out solid prove.

And everyone knows detonation is not good for the car. but then is your car already tuned to run on RON97 therefore RON95 cause detonation to your car. then we can understand why it cause damage to your car. if not, tell us what is the symptom you get during knocking, tell us how do you know there is detonation happen insideyour engine. ?
you think RON95 comes into malaysia because the government do so??
please do some reading. you have internet access. I don't like the government and i believe quite a number of people dont like too. We know they cant be trusted anymore. but then, this RON things got nothing to do with them.

I am just thinking that you are not satisfied because your satria started giving you trouble after 5 years of owning i suppose.

Who care about one want to pump Ron97 or Ron 100, at what price.

But me so scare with the bolded statement as posted.

he mean .. a lot of car masuk workshop because using Ron 95 ...

if all use Ron 97 .. all the workshop can bankrup d..

I taught air-cond not cold is the sign...as posted..

there is no evidence on that. only people that does not know about these things will believe in what he said.
Maybe this is where those myth of RON97 is cleaner and everything came from.

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Added on August 1, 2012, 10:57 pmcome on. hotter engine have colder aircond ok. unless your car is higher than the normal or going to overheat.
dont believe, try on your aircond during coldstart. compared it with your car still having the warmed up temperature.

This post has been edited by jasonloh7906: Aug 1 2012, 10:57 PM

This thread is a waste of space. Reading some comments really give me brain damage.

RON95 is gonna stay no matter whether you change the government or not. It is not simple to change the formulation and it is not an overnight process. No doubt the technology is there and we can even refine it up to RON99 just for the lulz but why do that when fuel prices in malaysia is controlled and fixed. RON99 is not gonna give your crappy city car a 20 hp boast or what. Its a waste of money to refine it to RON99 when 90% of car cant utilise the fuel.

If you are so paranoid about RON rating in your fuel, you can go add benzene,toluene or xylene in your fuel tank yourself. Your fuel RON would be boasted up considerably.Benzene has a RON100 rating. But mono-aromatics(benzene,toluene,xylene) are toxic so you bare the responsibility yourself.

This post has been edited by 779364: Aug 1 2012, 11:03 PM

like that also say misleading ah .. i not saying those who use this oil should bang their head to wall.
. i should stop update this forum .. i just continue doing what i like ... that all .

If RON95 can make the engine run hotter, then if use RON91 straight way engine burn... kekekekekek....

why no ppl say this guys is misleading by saying hotter engine five colder air cond??

theoratically no. but try stepping the accelerator on idle when you entered the car in a hot weather. it will cool your car much faster. Is because your engine is providing power where some power are sucked by the aircond compressor. so if your engine is running at the ideal temperature, you will have colder aircond. you can go and make your car temperature very low, but then why they dont do that? think man. with nowaday technology, cooling the engine is not that hard for engineers. but dont you realise why most car have almost the same temperature when they are normall. and for you to know, my volvo have poor acceleration, bad gear shift, and jerking when the car is too cold.
Ok, maybe i used the wrong word. it does not mean that if my car temperature is higher than normal i got colder aircond. that is no no.

Oh my farking god.

I read 2 pages of this thread and am completely astounded how completely ignorant some people are and yet claim to be 'well informed'. Thank god for the smarter few towards page 10/11/12 otherwise LYN discussions will be going down the drain.

Claiming RON92 + additives and later selling as RON95 is pure stupidity. Oil & Gas companies don't have shit for brains as some forummers do. Additives cost more than the base oil to make the petrol so it wouldn't make dollar and sense to sell RON92 on steroids and not to mention the lawsuits that'll follow filed by people who'll claim false advertising or something. Vpower Racing is RON97 + additives. Why is Vpower Racing so much more expensive? Because of the additives.

Jeez.

And RON95 causes detonation??????????????? Do you even know how an engine works? Ignition timing specifically? Or for that matter do you know what detonation is?? Or are you just trying to sound smart because you're coming across as a wannabe ignorant fool. Stop saying stupid things while you still can.

Let me ask those who think RON95 spoils their engines a simple question, do you know what is compression and how it affects the engine?

In M'sia, apart from exotics, only a few "affordable" cars must use RON97 otherwise they'll get knocking big time. The Civic type-R, Megane-R, Suzuki Swift Sport and any high compression engine car.

As for hotter engine - colder aircon, there is logic to this statement. When the engine is hot, the fan is turned on which effectively cools the coils and radiator therefore making the aircon colder.

This post has been edited by izso: Aug 1 2012, 11:23 PM

Because they are spreading sarcasm which only you didn't notice

edit: reply to keanutan's post previously lol

This post has been edited by Nightstalker1993: Aug 1 2012, 11:24 PM

LOL. It's convenient to blame on something they know rather than digging out the root cause. Exactly like this video poster.





Most of the people use Ron 95 because its cheaper. hence ratio on road users with Ron 95 is higher compare to users with Ron 97. Ofcourse masuk workshop also higher . In before they come in with Ron 2012.

Throwing in some video explanation. hope they will understand and relate both.

Very the LOLZ ar this thread especially Keanutan

RON95 can cause damage to car engine? Yes if it was tuned to run on higher RON and ignition timing cant adjust itself to prevent knocking when running on lower RON...