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TSSarahZurkanain
post May 19 2012, 07:23 PM, updated 14y ago

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My father bought a Proton Saga 1.3 FLX 2 months ago.
So far, not much problem had occured.
But anyhow, I'll list down the problems I encountered throughout my driving
- Check engine light is on sometimes and then goes off after a day or two (Sent the car for the checkup, and the guy said he can't find any problem though the light is still on and said they will checked more thoroughly during 1000km service.
- Noisy brakes at slow speed

But the main question is, does anyone know how to enable auto-luck function? (The doors will lock automatically if the lock button is not pressed within 30 seconds after you leave the car)
- Earlier, I remember the car has this function. But the Proton Guy told me that Saga FLX does not have this function. So I was dreaming before this? Idiot.
- I read this in the web somewhere that if you manually lock the car, it will disable the auto-lock function.
So how can I enable it back? Steps by steps please, I'm not good in cars. tongue.gif

And there is SAT (Stepped Automatic Transmission) function for this car. All I know that it gives 6-gear feeling when the button is pressed.
May I know what is this button for? Will it help to save oil consumption? And WHEN should I use it?
Some said I should use it at the highway to save oil. Is this true?
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post May 19 2012, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(SarahZurkanain @ May 19 2012, 07:23 PM)
My father bought a Proton Saga 1.3 FLX 2 months ago.
So far, not much problem had occured.
But anyhow, I'll list down the problems I encountered throughout my driving
- Check engine light is on sometimes and then goes off after a day or two (Sent the car for the checkup, and the guy said he can't find any problem though the light is still on and said they will checked more thoroughly during 1000km service.
- Noisy brakes at slow speed

But the main question is, does anyone know how to enable auto-luck function? (The doors will lock automatically if the lock button is not pressed within 30 seconds after you leave the car)
- Earlier, I remember the car has this function. But the Proton Guy told me that Saga FLX does not have this function. So I was dreaming before this? Idiot.
- I read this in the web somewhere that if you manually lock the car, it will disable the auto-lock function.
So how can I enable it back? Steps by steps please, I'm not good in cars.  tongue.gif

And there is SAT (Stepped Automatic Transmission) function for this car. All I know that it gives 6-gear feeling when the button is pressed.
May I know what is this button for? Will it help to save oil consumption? And WHEN should I use it?
Some said I should use it at the highway to save oil. Is this true?
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On the issue of the alarm auto rearm, it does not auto arm after you leave the car, lest you leave your keys in the car.

The alarm will only auto rearm when you disarm it, but never open any of the doors, then it will auto rearm 30 seconds later. As son as you open any of the doors, it will not auto rearm.

The SAT does exactly what you described and nothing more. It does not improve fuel consumption or help you go uphill easier. Just stick with D.

Pls drop by the saga blm/flx thrad for more info.

This post has been edited by dares: May 19 2012, 07:33 PM
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post May 19 2012, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(SarahZurkanain @ May 19 2012, 07:23 PM)
My father bought a Proton Saga 1.3 FLX 2 months ago.
So far, not much problem had occured.
But anyhow, I'll list down the problems I encountered throughout my driving
- Check engine light is on sometimes and then goes off after a day or two (Sent the car for the checkup, and the guy said he can't find any problem though the light is still on and said they will checked more thoroughly during 1000km service.
- Noisy brakes at slow speed

But the main question is, does anyone know how to enable auto-luck function? (The doors will lock automatically if the lock button is not pressed within 30 seconds after you leave the car)
- Earlier, I remember the car has this function. But the Proton Guy told me that Saga FLX does not have this function. So I was dreaming before this? Idiot.
- I read this in the web somewhere that if you manually lock the car, it will disable the auto-lock function.
So how can I enable it back? Steps by steps please, I'm not good in cars.  tongue.gif

And there is SAT (Stepped Automatic Transmission) function for this car. All I know that it gives 6-gear feeling when the button is pressed.
May I know what is this button for? Will it help to save oil consumption? And WHEN should I use it?
Some said I should use it at the highway to save oil. Is this true?
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1. I dont know what is the problem, but ask them to retune back your ecu

2. I believe the brake pad is not good quality

3. That is only when you unlock the car, if no door open for 30 seconds, it will automatically lock

4. SAT is just to stimulate the 6 speed gear changes. Some people dislike the smooth acceleration so SAT will stimulate and behave like Auto.
It will not save fc in any case. But the driving feeling when SAT is enabled is quite fun in my Exora Bold. You should use it when you feel like use it brows.gif
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post May 19 2012, 07:59 PM

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Thank you so much for the replies.
So I learned that SAT does nothing except that it is just to switch to 6-gear mode.

But guys, about the auto lock function, yes it is correct that it will auto lock after 30 seconds if you leave the car and the key is not in the ignition switch.
The problem is that, that auto lock function does not function anymore. When I get out of my car with my keys, closed all doors and waited for more than 30 seconds, it does not auto lock.

Any way to enable this? The Service Guy said that SAGA FLX does not have this function ==
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QUOTE(SarahZurkanain @ May 19 2012, 07:59 PM)
Thank you so much for the replies.
So I learned that SAT does nothing except that it is just to switch to 6-gear mode.

But guys, about the auto lock function, yes it is correct that it will auto lock after 30 seconds if you leave the car and the key is not in the ignition switch.
The problem is that, that auto lock function does not function anymore. When I get out of my car with my keys, closed all doors and waited for more than 30 seconds, it does not auto lock.

Any way to enable this? The Service Guy said that SAGA FLX does not have this function ==
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QUOTE(dares @ May 19 2012, 07:32 PM)
On the issue of the alarm auto rearm, it does not auto arm after you leave the car, lest you leave your keys in the car.

The alarm will only auto rearm when you disarm it, but never open any of the doors, then it will auto rearm 30 seconds later. As son as you open any of the doors, it will not auto rearm.

The SAT does exactly what you described and nothing more. It does not improve fuel consumption or help you go uphill easier. Just stick with D.

Pls drop by the saga blm/flx thrad for more info.
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I believe this is your answer regarding to the auto rearm.
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post May 19 2012, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(SarahZurkanain @ May 19 2012, 07:59 PM)
Thank you so much for the replies.
So I learned that SAT does nothing except that it is just to switch to 6-gear mode.

But guys, about the auto lock function, yes it is correct that it will auto lock after 30 seconds if you leave the car and the key is not in the ignition switch.
The problem is that, that auto lock function does not function anymore. When I get out of my car with my keys, closed all doors and waited for more than 30 seconds, it does not auto lock.

Any way to enable this? The Service Guy said that SAGA FLX does not have this function ==
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Haiizz, pls read carefully again.

The alarm DOES NOT AUTOLOCK AFTER YOU LEAVE THE CAR.

It will only autolock if you disarm your car with your remote, but did not open any of the doors, then only it will autolock after 30 seconds.

If you open a door afte disarming the alarm, it will not autolock after closing the door.
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post May 19 2012, 08:34 PM

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The auto lock only work like this

You disarm the alarm > but no door is opened during the 30 seconds > it will auto lock

The auto lock will never activate when

1) You disarm the alarm > you open car door > you close all door > you wait 30 sec > the auto lock will not activate

2) You disarm the alarm > you turn on engine > you drive and you reach your destination > you get out of the car and close all the door > the auto lock will not activate
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QUOTE(SarahZurkanain @ May 19 2012, 07:59 PM)
Thank you so much for the replies.
So I learned that SAT does nothing except that it is just to switch to 6-gear mode.

But guys, about the auto lock function, yes it is correct that it will auto lock after 30 seconds if you leave the car and the key is not in the ignition switch.
The problem is that, that auto lock function does not function anymore. When I get out of my car with my keys, closed all doors and waited for more than 30 seconds, it does not auto lock.

Any way to enable this? The Service Guy said that SAGA FLX does not have this function ==
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if u get out of the car..of course u have to press the button to lock it....
the "auto lock" is that if u "unlock" the car but u never open any door...after 30 second, it will auto lock back..thats all
the SAT will only give u the "feeling" of changing gear
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post May 19 2012, 09:47 PM

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haha if those explanation doesnt work, try this

1. get out of car
2. lock car using alarm
3. unlock car using alarm
4. wait for 30 sec without opening any doors
5. be amazed when your car locks back by itself again
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post May 20 2012, 05:07 AM

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Ohh, sorry that I didn't understand on that first answer, because I believe all this while the function works like that. But after neo1point3 and redshark_999's good explanation, I finally understand it.
Thanks neo1point 3 and redshark_999

And dares, chill! =)

Thanks to all who replied.

Salam 1Malaysia!
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post May 20 2012, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(SarahZurkanain @ May 20 2012, 05:07 AM)
Ohh, sorry that I didn't understand on that first answer, because I believe all this while the function works like that. But after neo1point3 and redshark_999's good explanation, I finally understand it.
Thanks neo1point 3 and redshark_999

And dares, chill! =)

Thanks to all who replied.

Salam 1Malaysia!
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post May 20 2012, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(SarahZurkanain @ May 20 2012, 05:07 AM)
Ohh, sorry that I didn't understand on that first answer, because I believe all this while the function works like that. But after neo1point3 and redshark_999's good explanation, I finally understand it.
Thanks neo1point 3 and redshark_999

And dares, chill! =)

Thanks to all who replied.

Salam 1Malaysia!
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VERY GOOD ADVICE to ALL new buyers of ANY device...be it a mobile phone OR a CAR :

Pleez READ the USER MANUAL that comes with the device BEFORE yu try any special function.

Then yu won't hv any probs using said device.

Then yu'll truly ENJOY yr device!!! rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(zeone @ May 20 2012, 09:11 AM)
VERY GOOD ADVICE to ALL new buyers of ANY device...be it a mobile phone OR a CAR :

Pleez READ the USER MANUAL that comes with the device BEFORE yu try any special function.

Then yu won't hv any probs using said device.

Then yu'll truly ENJOY yr device!!! rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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But these features some of them Proton didnt include in the manual book smile.gif

Here is the list of the proton body control module

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


That is bcm features for Exora, I believe proton use the same module for all their cars
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post May 21 2012, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(SarahZurkanain @ May 19 2012, 07:23 PM)

- Check engine light is on sometimes and then goes off after a day or two (Sent the car for the checkup, and the guy said he can't find any problem though the light is still on and said they will checked more thoroughly during 1000km service.
- Noisy brakes at slow speed

- Earlier, I remember the car has this function. But the Proton Guy told me that Saga FLX does not have this function. So I was dreaming before this? Idiot.
- I read this in the web somewhere that if you manually lock the car, it will disable the auto-lock function.
So how can I enable it back? Steps by steps please, I'm not good in cars.  tongue.gif

And there is SAT (Stepped Automatic Transmission) function for this car. All I know that it gives 6-gear feeling when the button is pressed.
May I know what is this button for? Will it help to save oil consumption? And WHEN should I use it?
Some said I should use it at the highway to save oil. Is this true?
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ask sc check then engine light, last time my blm airbag icon on and off when the day is hot. didnt bother about it.
about the noisy brake, i think most of saga will have it..not sure what happen, tried but cant fix last time, end up selling the car.

lock will only autolock if you unlock and leave it without opening for 30 seconds.

SAT just give u the feel only, nothing else, basically no use.

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QUOTE(SarahZurkanain @ May 19 2012, 07:23 PM)

But the main question is, does anyone know how to enable auto-luck function? (The doors will lock automatically if the lock button is not pressed within 30 seconds after you leave the car)
- Earlier, I remember the car has this function. But the Proton Guy told me that Saga FLX does not have this function. So I was dreaming before this? Idiot.
Hes not an idiot, you are. And obviously you were dreaming. Next time before callling someone an idiot, read up more.
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post May 21 2012, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(SarahZurkanain @ May 19 2012, 07:23 PM)
My father bought a Proton Saga 1.3 FLX 2 months ago.
So far, not much problem had occured.
But anyhow, I'll list down the problems I encountered throughout my driving
- Check engine light is on sometimes and then goes off after a day or two (Sent the car for the checkup, and the guy said he can't find any problem though the light is still on and said they will checked more thoroughly during 1000km service.
- Noisy brakes at slow speed

But the main question is, does anyone know how to enable auto-luck function? (The doors will lock automatically if the lock button is not pressed within 30 seconds after you leave the car)
- Earlier, I remember the car has this function. But the Proton Guy told me that Saga FLX does not have this function. So I was dreaming before this? Idiot.
- I read this in the web somewhere that if you manually lock the car, it will disable the auto-lock function.
So how can I enable it back? Steps by steps please, I'm not good in cars.  tongue.gif

And there is SAT (Stepped Automatic Transmission) function for this car. All I know that it gives 6-gear feeling when the button is pressed.
May I know what is this button for? Will it help to save oil consumption? And WHEN should I use it?
Some said I should use it at the highway to save oil. Is this true?
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about the check engine light, is it check engine@cvt light(the circle light like tyre)?

If u owned standard flx that non abs version, go reflash the tcu coz punch already updated the tcu software for non abs module. Previous, some being install with abs module causing some faulty signal sense by the sensor. Only branch sc provide with reflash service. The newer batch already updated with current version.

If not related, they shud check the trouble code for ecu but i think it is the tcu software. I think prtn already issue official letter to the owners. Hope this help.

About the brake, its depend, if the front, then the pad, if drumbrakes, they already doing countermeasure with vendors supplying the drum brakes n if finalised, the letter will be issue on that matter to replace the drum brakes on flx n flx se. Not all are effected but more than acceptable rate, so, futher investigation from rnd dept n send it to vendors to investigate. Normally on vendors part is the reason for the delay.


Added on May 21, 2012, 10:44 amthe question will raise why is the action is slow? Well, not talking behalf of anyone, but the thing works like this. The new policy in prtn, when a batch is affected, the whole batch will be called back n being replaced the parts even to those that not having the problems. So, vendors have to bear all the cost, so, the will investigate thoroughly to prove that it is in tolerance. Not the whole batch. Every tiny things will be inspect to search for the fault, n make sure it wont reoccur again.

Previously, the changes is only for those affected@have problems, but since exora onwards, the whole batch will be replaced with new one even those are not effected as safety measure the things wont reoccur, even its only involve the sound.

Thats why it is important to service at branch sc if can coz the data will be send to hq and will be cumulated. If send to 3rd party like dealers, it wont be in the systems, so, only a minor report on affected unit.


Added on May 21, 2012, 10:48 amfor the time being, only exora n preve equip with bcm module while preve has some additional functions. Upcoming prtns will equip with bcm. But not the previous platform coz this module is being setup during the design stage. Its not as simple as plug n play.

This post has been edited by mat79: May 21 2012, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(mat79 @ May 21 2012, 10:32 AM)
about the check engine light, is it check engine@cvt light(the circle light like tyre)?

If u owned standard flx that non abs version, go reflash the tcu coz punch already updated the tcu software for non abs module. Previous, some being install with abs module causing some faulty signal sense by the sensor. Only branch sc provide with reflash service. The newer batch already updated with current version.

If not related, they shud check the trouble code for ecu but i think it is the tcu software. I think prtn already issue official letter to the owners. Hope this help.

About the brake, its depend, if the front, then the pad, if drumbrakes, they already doing countermeasure with vendors supplying the drum brakes n if finalised, the letter will be issue on that matter to replace the drum brakes on flx n flx se. Not all are effected but more than acceptable rate, so, futher investigation from rnd dept n send it to vendors to investigate. Normally on vendors part is the reason for the delay.
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Tks, Bro, for yr good response & clarification! thumbup.gif

Re need 2reflash TCU, feel Proton branches/SCs are dragging their feet over wat they hv 2do to eradicate the prob...unnecessary delays give ammunition for ppl to bring down Proton's integrity as the National Car Manufacturer. Any probs shld b nipped in the bud...True?

Re vendors similarly dragging their feet, feel Proton shld revise its contract details with ALL vendors to maintain a reasonable quality of their products. And, of course, a reasonably short time to respond to their product issues. Agreed?

Wish yu a good day!
And TQ agin... notworthy.gif

ps. Hv seen/read abt how hard yu've been working 2lift up spirits & support of Proton supporters. Do keep up the great work!! rclxms.gif
However, as every1 knows, one hand on deck wld not b able to prevent a ship from sinking! Correct?

It needs the WHOLE crew to do that... smile.gif


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post May 21 2012, 10:52 AM

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and to those who owned prtn prior to the lifetime@10 years power windows announcement, if ur car is still under warranty, please registered for receive the additional coverage on pwrwindows warranty. For example, ur car is 3 years warranty, n this year is the 3rd year which ur warranty still not expired, u r entitle to get another 7 years warranty on the pwrwindows which cover 4 parts, the switches, window lining rails, mechanism n motor.


Added on May 21, 2012, 11:03 amyup, some new contacts has renew the terms in the agreements wirh vendors on faulty parts. The main problems rely on the old contact which sign earlier. I dont want to blame who n which party. The only problem is to wait until the old contarct ended, then the new one will add new terms. U knowla the effect of breaching the contract which sign off earlier.

The things i know the new contract all vendors are accountable for the problems if related to them n if they dont performed as they shud, their contract will be terminated. Before put the blame to vendors, prtn need to provide concrete evidence that it is their fault. And nowadays vendors are working closely with the rnd during development stage.

Yup, one hand cant change many things, but it can make a change atleast. Hopefully those related especially the other dept, workers n vendors share the same spirit n passion as what the rnd teams had done. And also the distribution part that is edar n eon.

Hopefully under drb, it will become easily to rectify the broken@missing links in prtn n also hope drb also share the same spirit n passion to keep improving prtn.


Added on May 21, 2012, 11:03 amyup, some new contacts has renew the terms in the agreements wirh vendors on faulty parts. The main problems rely on the old contact which sign earlier. I dont want to blame who n which party. The only problem is to wait until the old contarct ended, then the new one will add new terms. U knowla the effect of breaching the contract which sign off earlier.

The things i know the new contract all vendors are accountable for the problems if related to them n if they dont performed as they shud, their contract will be terminated. Before put the blame to vendors, prtn need to provide concrete evidence that it is their fault. And nowadays vendors are working closely with the rnd during development stage.

Yup, one hand cant change many things, but it can make a change atleast. Hopefully those related especially the other dept, workers n vendors share the same spirit n passion as what the rnd teams had done. And also the distribution part that is edar n eon.

Hopefully under drb, it will become easily to rectify the broken@missing links in prtn n also hope drb also share the same spirit n passion to keep improving prtn.


Added on May 21, 2012, 11:03 amyup, some new contacts has renew the terms in the agreements wirh vendors on faulty parts. The main problems rely on the old contact which sign earlier. I dont want to blame who n which party. The only problem is to wait until the old contarct ended, then the new one will add new terms. U knowla the effect of breaching the contract which sign off earlier.

The things i know the new contract all vendors are accountable for the problems if related to them n if they dont performed as they shud, their contract will be terminated. Before put the blame to vendors, prtn need to provide concrete evidence that it is their fault. And nowadays vendors are working closely with the rnd during development stage.

Yup, one hand cant change many things, but it can make a change atleast. Hopefully those related especially the other dept, workers n vendors share the same spirit n passion as what the rnd teams had done. And also the distribution part that is edar n eon.

Hopefully under drb, it will become easily to rectify the broken@missing links in prtn n also hope drb also share the same spirit n passion to keep improving prtn.

This post has been edited by mat79: May 21 2012, 11:03 AM
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post May 21 2012, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ May 21 2012, 10:32 AM)
about the check engine light, is it check engine@cvt light(the circle light like tyre)?

If u owned standard flx that non abs version, go reflash the tcu coz punch already updated the tcu software for non abs module. Previous, some being install with abs module causing some faulty signal sense by the sensor. Only branch sc provide with reflash service. The newer batch already updated with current version.

If not related, they shud check the trouble code for ecu but i think it is the tcu software. I think prtn already issue official letter to the owners. Hope this help.

About the brake, its depend, if the front, then the pad, if drumbrakes, they already doing countermeasure with vendors supplying the drum brakes n if finalised, the letter will be issue on that matter to replace the drum brakes on flx n flx se. Not all are effected but more than acceptable rate, so, futher investigation from rnd dept n send it to vendors to investigate. Normally on vendors part is the reason for the delay.
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That's good to know, I'll be eargerly waiting for their letter...

QUOTE(mat79 @ May 21 2012, 10:32 AM)
the question will raise why is the action is slow? Well, not talking behalf of anyone, but the thing works like this. The new policy in prtn, when a batch is affected, the whole batch will be called back n being replaced the parts even to those that not having the problems. So, vendors have to bear all the cost, so, the will investigate thoroughly to prove that it is in tolerance. Not the whole batch. Every tiny things will be inspect to search for the fault, n make sure it wont reoccur again.

Previously, the changes is only for those affected@have problems, but since exora onwards, the whole batch will be replaced with new one even those are not effected as safety measure the things wont reoccur, even its only involve the sound.

Thats why it is important to service at branch sc if can coz the data will be send to hq and will be cumulated. If send to 3rd party like dealers, it wont be in the systems, so, only a minor report on affected unit.

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I service at outside authorised SCs, but all my claims (my 3 set of drumbrakes, headlamp etc.) are done either at Branch or COE. That shouldn't be any problem right?

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sorry dares, not explains details enough. What i mean is when u do complaints, normally during service, its better at branch sc coz the complaint will directly link to hq. And easier to claim parts coz dealers, they are quite limited authorithy in claiming parts coz there have been some cases before where dealers claim for customers, but not change it, but sell it to others. So, customers run amok coz thought part being replaced with new one, but stated given part rosak where the irresponsible sc doing the ....

For servicing, its ok, just remebered to get the stamp everytime servicing as proof.

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