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MikeSAS1992
post May 31 2014, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(esy @ May 31 2014, 07:30 PM)
... it actually happen to others and that is why I don't get the Formula 1 MClaren Car, Hummer and Vintage Ship when it comes from AllScript distribution for retail buyer. They seems to think that everyone should go to their office or order through post -- then why use retail distribution when AllScript does not wish to commit. Just imagine after spending all the money and you can't complete because the Formula 1 MClaren wheel, Hummer car door or the Vintage Ship sail missing -- I rather don't want to take the risk and spend the money ... when it comes to loosely plane and helicopter its ok with me ...
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I agree with you.this also applies to the helicopter, aircraft and tank collections as well imo. Why bother putting them in retail stores when you keep skipping issues and even publish them in a incorrect order. They are trying to piss people off is it?

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post May 31 2014, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(esy @ May 31 2014, 07:30 PM)
... it actually happen to others and that is why I don't get the Formula 1 MClaren Car, Hummer and Vintage Ship when it comes from AllScript distribution for retail buyer. They seems to think that everyone should go to their office or order through post -- then why use retail distribution when AllScript does not wish to commit. Just imagine after spending all the money and you can't complete because the Formula 1 MClaren wheel, Hummer car door or the Vintage Ship sail missing -- I rather don't want to take the risk and spend the money ... when it comes to loosely plane and helicopter its ok with me ...
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I get into FAC and Build HMS Victory because I completed the McLaren (no missing issue). That is how I thought All Script is reliable. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Mana tahu kena All Script trap. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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post Jun 1 2014, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(MikeSAS1992 @ May 31 2014, 08:32 PM)
I agree with you.this also applies to the helicopter, aircraft and tank collections as well imo. Why bother putting them in retail stores when you keep skipping issues and even publish them in a incorrect order.  They are trying to piss people off is it?
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... Its not that they intentionally want to skip issue or publish them in an inaccurate order, it's because they have sold them out to subscriber or buyer that come to their office. They then push whatever that is left to the retail shop. So, hot issue can be none or even one or two left, after given to subscriber or buyer that purchased directly at AllScript office - they don't care about retail buyer. They should have a percentage cover for retail and direct buying. Whatever that is left is then use for reordering direct purchase, and not the other way round by selling all to direct buyer without a percentage quota in place. This is what is happening to the retail buyer plane collector ...

... Anyway, there use to be some members here updating what issue is located at which shop all around for retail buyer convenience -- but somehow its just not active now ...

... If any of my collection would jump two number missing, I would just drop the whole collection and round them up to a 5 or 10 number collection. Frankly, not all planes is well done, I am just collecting for the numbering sake, which I can't do it to the assembly collection like Hummer, F! car or Vintage Ship. I will be collecting up to a certain number for the Helicopter and forget about the rest already. Use to be fun, but now its is not. Thinking of Affix or Tamiya now. Don't think its worth the frustration just for collection fun ...

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post Jun 1 2014, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(esy @ Jun 1 2014, 10:19 AM)
... Its not that they intentionally want to skip issue or publish them in an inaccurate order, it's because they have sold them out to subscriber or buyer that come to their office. They then push whatever that is left to the retail shop. So, hot issue can be none or even one or two left, after given to subscriber or buyer that purchased directly at AllScript office - they don't care about retail buyer. They should have a percentage cover for retail and direct buying. Whatever that is left is then use for reordering direct purchase, and not the other way round by selling all to direct buyer without a percentage quota in place. This is what is happening to the retail buyer plane collector ...

... Anyway, there use to be some members here updating what issue is located at which shop all around for retail buyer convenience -- but somehow its just not active now ... 

... If any of my collection would jump two number missing, I would just drop the whole collection and round them up to a 5 or 10 number collection. Frankly, not all planes is well done, I am just collecting for the numbering sake, which I can't do it to the assembly collection like Hummer, F! car or Vintage Ship. I will be collecting up to a certain number for the Helicopter and forget about the rest already. Use to be fun, but now its is not. Thinking of Affix or Tamiya now. Don't think its worth the frustration just for collection fun ...

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Happy Weekend ...

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Now that you put it that way,it makes me really disappointed in Allscript. They should treat retail buyers equally as those office direct buyers and subscribers. Afterall,retail buyers contributes a large percentage of their profits.
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post Jun 1 2014, 10:38 PM

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Should tell All Script "Jangan pandang kami tak ada mata!!" (Don't look down on us!!) laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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post Jun 1 2014, 11:07 PM

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Just to share my experience here with Allscript. Many years back, i started collecting this magazine called Air Combat Collection with models from Italieri i believe (RM6.90 only first issue, subsequently 9.90). After getting tired of chasing issue after each issue around town, i went to their HQ(old HQ before they shifted) and made a subscription. Mind you, back then their HQ is just a two level factory lot with the office upstairs, and stock storage downstairs. So i was told that if i want the models fast, i could place a subscription and will be notified when the magazines arrive to go straight to the office to collect.

And so i agreed to go to the office to collect direct, instead of having to wait further for the items to be delivered fortnightly via post. And what a mistake that was to rely on them.

1. They NEVER EVER called to notify me. I have to make calls monthly just to ask if the new stocks have arrived.

2. Towards the end of the issuance, i was busy and was away from KL. Thinking that a subscription would secure my issues, i waited for them to call me to notify me when the stock arrive. However, the call never came. And when i'm back in KL, i went to the office to collect the last 6 issues. To my DISAPPOINTMENT, i was told they ran out of two issues because they fully sold them out! What the hell! And to top it off, i was told they couldnt restock because the factory was burnt down in the UK where the mag is published. I couldnt verify to this day if their bullshit is true. What i know is i missed out on two planes (one of which is the AH-1 Cobra which i really liked) which i saw other collectors have. This remains a very sore point in collecting this series.

And this has made me shun Allscript ever since, which is also the reason why i have never collected anything related to allscript ever again, this FAC series included.

However, when i saw the Helicopter Magazine brought in, i was tempted again (one reason is because the AH-1 and AH-64 is in the series, which i left out from Air Combat Collection). Deep inside, I hoped Allscript improved to be better after all these years, but having seen your comments, i have a gut feeling i'm in for another round of Allscript's bullshit again. Case in point is when i have Issues 1-3, but somehow am still struggling to locate issue 4 even after the so-called 'fortnight' period.

I do hope that fellow collectors here just keep a lookout for each other since we're in this together, whether we prefer retail purchase or subscribing.

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MikeSAS1992
post Jun 1 2014, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(Jane's @ Jun 1 2014, 11:07 PM)
Just to share my experience here with Allscript. Many years back, i started collecting this magazine called Air Combat Collection with models from Italieri i believe (RM6.90 only first issue, subsequently 9.90). After getting tired of chasing issue after each issue around town, i went to their HQ(old HQ before they shifted) and made a subscription. Mind you, back then their HQ is just a two level factory lot with the office upstairs, and stock storage downstairs. So i was told that if i want the models fast, i could place a subscription and will be notified when the magazines arrive to go straight to the office to collect.

And so i agreed to go to the office to collect direct, instead of having to wait further for the items to be delivered fortnightly via post. And what a mistake that was to rely on them.

1. They NEVER EVER called to notify me. I have to make calls monthly just to ask if the new stocks have arrived.

2. Towards the end of the issuance, i was busy and was away from KL. Thinking that a subscription would secure my issues, i waited for them to call me to notify me when the stock arrive. However, the call never came. And when i'm back in KL, i went to the office to collect the last 6 issues. To my DISAPPOINTMENT, i was told they ran out of two issues because they fully sold them out! What the hell! And to top it off, i was told they couldnt restock because the factory was burnt down in the UK where the mag is published. I couldnt verify to this day if their bullshit is true. What i know is i missed out on two planes (one of which is the AH-1 Cobra which i really liked) which i saw other collectors have. This remains a very sore point in collecting this series.

And this has made me shun Allscript ever since, which is also the reason why i have never collected anything related to allscript ever again, this FAC series included.

However, when i saw the Helicopter Magazine brought in, i was tempted again (one reason is because the AH-1 and AH-64 is in the series, which i left out from Air Combat Collection). Deep inside, I hoped Allscript improved to be better after all these years, but having seen your comments, i have a gut feeling i'm in for another round of Allscript's bullshit again. Case in point is when i have Issues 1-3, but somehow am still struggling to locate issue 4 even after the so-called 'fortnight' period.

I do hope that fellow collectors here just keep a lookout for each other since we're in this together, whether we prefer retail purchase or subscribing.
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Wow,can't believe Allscript is so messed up.By the way:
1.)Their factory burnt down in the UK? I don't think so.
2.)When you subscribe for the Air Combat Collection,do you have to pay for it first before you go to Allscript office to get your models or not?
3.)I think you already know this,but don't ever expect Allscript to contact you for the latest magazines,they will never do that.

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post Jun 1 2014, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(MikeSAS1992 @ Jun 1 2014, 11:38 PM)
Wow,can't believe Allscript is so messed up.By the way:
1.)Their factory burnt down in the UK? I don't think so.
2.)When you subscribe for the Air Combat Collection,do you have to pay for it first before you go to Allscript office to get your models or not?
3.)I think you already know this,but don't ever expect Allscript to contact you for the latest magazines,they will never do that.
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1. It's not their factory that's burnt down, it's the Air Combat Collection Publisher's

2. I made a complete upfront payment for all (entire) issues when i subscribed. I'm not sure how their system works now.

3. I know now that is the case, but they made one hell of a cock-up to assure their customers they would contact.

I'm not in anyway discouraging collectors here, i'm just sharing about Allscript in order to help collectors understand to avoid disappointments.
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post Jun 1 2014, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(Jane's @ Jun 1 2014, 11:44 PM)
1. It's not their factory that's burnt down, it's the Air Combat Collection Publisher's

2. I made a complete upfront payment for all (entire) issues when i subscribed. I'm not sure how their system works now.

3. I know now that is the case, but they made one hell of a cock-up to assure their customers they would contact.

I'm not in anyway discouraging collectors here, i'm just sharing about Allscript in order to help collectors understand to avoid disappointments.
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That isn't right.You should get the models you desired because you already payed upfront.How could they sell the models you wanted to other customers? Do you get a refund for the models you missed?
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post Jun 1 2014, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(MikeSAS1992 @ Jun 1 2014, 11:47 PM)
That isn't right.You should get the models you desired because you already payed upfront.How could they sell the models you wanted to other customers? Do you get a refund for the models you missed?
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I was told refund isn't possible, so whatever excess they had left after the series finished i could choose. Ended up with an extra F4 (defected slightly, last one left) and a Stuka to replace the two issues they failed to provide.
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post Jun 2 2014, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(Jane's @ Jun 1 2014, 11:50 PM)
I was told refund isn't possible, so whatever excess they had left after the series finished i could choose. Ended up with an extra F4 (defected slightly, last one left) and a Stuka to replace the two issues they failed to provide.
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I see.anyway, if you plan to buy any of the helicopter magazines,just go to the head office and straight away buy.And if you need updates on the latest issues,refer to this page in FB:https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fighter-Aircraft-Combat-Tanks-Collection/332254133531729. This page will always be updated on current available issues and is more reliable than having allscript contacting you(in which they don't).
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post Jun 2 2014, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(Jane's @ Jun 1 2014, 11:50 PM)
I was told refund isn't possible, so whatever excess they had left after the series finished i could choose. Ended up with an extra F4 (defected slightly, last one left) and a Stuka to replace the two issues they failed to provide.
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Wow ~ ~ ~ No restock, refund impossible, have to take whatever sh*t that is available to replace the missing issue... what is the point??? blink.gif shakehead.gif shocking.gif
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post Jun 2 2014, 08:56 AM

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i think that basically allscript doesn't want to waste precious warehouse space by stocking up on unpopular stock... but that's really no excuse for failing to reserve copies for your subscribers! from what i've been following over at this thread, allscript is really pushing for subscriptions/direct purchase rather than retail customers. to add to the observations, i had my fair share of missing issues at my favourite bookstore... or for that matter, bookstores. i did hunt around mph, borders, popular, kino... the works! initially i thought it was pure bs that they (the bookstores) forgot and never reserved a copy for me but from what has been said, i guess they really never received the issues. only reason why i followed the fac is that all said and done, for rm29.90, it is reasonable considering the detailing of the amercom models. only grouse is of course the different scale. the least they could do was at least keep aircraft of a certain genre (eg ww2) at 1:72 instead of having some at 1:100. i display my aircraft according to scale so to have some modern fighters mixed with the ww2 icons and vice versa kinda makes a mess of the display. but that's really a minor peeve. so in a way, it's good that the fac has finally come to an end (rethinking my helicopter collection subscription, since only placed order for first 10 issues, but again... for rm29.90, poison is too strong).
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Still no sign of FAC Issue 46 and Helicopter Issue 4 in Penang, sigh...
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QUOTE(WingNut @ Jun 2 2014, 08:56 AM)
i think that basically allscript doesn't want to waste precious warehouse space by stocking up on unpopular stock... but that's really no excuse for failing to reserve copies for your subscribers! from what i've been following over at this thread, allscript is really pushing for subscriptions/direct purchase rather than retail customers. to add to the observations, i had my fair share of missing issues at my favourite bookstore... or for that matter, bookstores. i did hunt around mph, borders, popular, kino... the works! initially i thought it was pure bs that they (the bookstores) forgot and never reserved a copy for me but from what has been said, i guess they really never received the issues. only reason why i followed the fac is that all said and done, for rm29.90, it is reasonable considering the detailing of the amercom models. only grouse is of course the different scale. the least they could do was at least keep aircraft of a certain genre (eg ww2) at 1:72 instead of having some at 1:100. i display my aircraft according to scale so to have some modern fighters mixed with the ww2 icons and vice versa kinda makes a mess of the display. but that's really a minor peeve. so in a way, it's good that the fac has finally come to an end (rethinking my helicopter collection subscription, since only placed order for first 10 issues, but again... for rm29.90, poison is too strong).
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I am thinking twice whether want to continue subscribing after I receive the 4 issues that haven't arrive yet.

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post Jun 2 2014, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(mavericktham @ Jun 2 2014, 09:29 AM)
Still no sign of FAC Issue 46 and Helicopter Issue 4 in Penang, sigh...
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thunderbolt II? perhaps comrade blu3hamm3r already sapu all... rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(WingNut @ Jun 2 2014, 09:57 AM)
thunderbolt II? perhaps comrade blu3hamm3r already sapu all...  rolleyes.gif
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when talk about thunderbolt,it reminds me of the russian counterpart, the su 25 frogfoot.damn,why FAC also dun have this plane cry.gif
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The will never improve. I not only subscript Combat tank, Fighter aircraft, but i subscript for helicopter and James Bond too....surprisingly when i go collect my fighter aircraft, they told me the F-14 is out of stock. Wth is tis? I tot the stock should reserve for those who had subscript 1st? How come can no stock? If not enough stock, why don't they reserve the stock instead of sending over to those Popular and MPH? I feel really annoying....
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QUOTE(blu3hamm3r @ Jun 2 2014, 01:23 PM)
The will never improve. I not only subscript Combat tank, Fighter aircraft, but i subscript for helicopter and James Bond too....surprisingly when i go collect my fighter aircraft, they told me the F-14 is out of stock. Wth is tis? I tot the stock should reserve for those who had subscript 1st? How come can no stock? If not enough stock, why don't they reserve the stock instead of sending over to those Popular and MPH? I feel really annoying....
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So terrible.I mean seriously,when someone pays for a certain product,he should be able to get it at all costs. How can they give away the f-14 to other people without reserving one for you? Now i want get f-14 also cannot because allscript didn't send over to popular for me to collect. I'm worried this will happen to me for my heli mag next time.

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post Jun 2 2014, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(MikeSAS1992 @ Jun 2 2014, 12:47 PM)
when talk about thunderbolt,it reminds me of the russian counterpart, the su 25 frogfoot.damn,why FAC also dun have this plane  cry.gif
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let's face it, the americans are masters of marketing and i have to admit, even i am a victim. my collection is full of f14s, f15s, f18s and f22s... with only a couple of su27s, su30s and mig29s. me like my aircraft sleek and elegant... and find the thunderbolt and su25 rather utilitarian. but that's just me. scare comrade blu3hamm3r come hentam me...

oops! sorry sorry... off off topic! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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