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 Demon Hunter Discussion, For bow lovers!! Share your build!

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post Jul 14 2012, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(AdamNg @ Jul 14 2012, 11:39 AM)
Thats what I think..but upgrade means more GOLD needed & I don't have that much gold.. cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif

Most of it already spent in HELL, now only left less than 100K..

My DPS without SS is 22K..
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What's your weapon DPS currently?


Added on July 14, 2012, 12:05 pm
QUOTE(duabijitelur @ Jul 14 2012, 11:37 AM)
my stats 2 days ago
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without SS
hmm what to improve?
1. more crit dmg
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More crit damage needed. Any crit damage on your xbow? Try getting one with socket so you can slot in 70% Star Emerald easily.

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post Jul 14 2012, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(cr3aMreApEr @ Jul 14 2012, 12:13 PM)
Inferno Act 2 is realli a challenge for new dh that jz reached, Too hard to grind through.. My 1st act2 quest was completed with public games. Only now can solo complete..  Ya wats ur weapon dps? N mind posting ur dh build?

Btw polarbearz can post ur equip ah if dun mind?? Ngek ngek interested with it, ur stat looks quite balance..
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Alright will post it later smile.gif

QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 14 2012, 12:49 PM)
Hell mode need to spend so much? I spent 5k per armor also can settle Diablo already.


Added on July 14, 2012, 12:51 pmwahh my DH super duper resist compared to many DH i come by. Resist all 700+, fire 800+. with War Cry (barb) my resist go up to 1k++ with 1.1k on arcane and 1.2k on fire. tongue.gif
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There's one DH with high AllRes as well, was traditional build (Critical + Xbow) but he swapped to Tank Hunter recently, been doing run with me all these while and its pretty amazing thumbup.gif

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Here's his old thread for references if interested (In fact it was his thread that motivated me to go all-round balanced build instead of glass cannon path, tho I swayed away from achieving 60k / 600 all res to higher-damage with reasonable all res / hp build): http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5890099229

QUOTE(duabijitelur @ Jul 14 2012, 12:56 PM)
erm nope just a cheap xbow XD nid to farm more golds to change whole body's gear


Added on July 14, 2012, 12:58 pm
agree... biggrin.gif u see my resist... u sure laugh XD
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Hmm, try to get one cheap bow / xbow with socket. A magic (blue colour) ones will do, as they're pretty cheap to come by now. 980+ DPS only cost 100k or so.

QUOTE(AdamNg @ Jul 14 2012, 12:59 PM)
Thats my build..my 2 crossbow 700+ DPS each....and some said that it only 700 DPS and not 1400 DPS (700 + 700). Is this true? cry.gif  cry.gif

If true....really wasted my gold...
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Yes, basically 1H bow have lower damage and dual-wielding them, will only alternate between each handbows. If you are low on budget, better give xbow (or bow) + quiver a try as the damage is much more higher. Mainly due to GOOD 1H Handbows are not cheap to comeby.

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post Jul 14 2012, 01:06 PM

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Anyway, here's my items & stats for those who are interested... basically I'm hitting the wall now, can't upgrade anything without costing me a bomb.. doh.gif

Hopefully this might help to motivate / guide some DH's out there, like how I was motivated by other's post / items back then. smile.gif

DPS set:
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Farming set:
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post Jul 14 2012, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 14 2012, 01:19 PM)
By the pic you show - that's where I'm heading!!! Already suited my game style with that.

It's quite helpful being a tank/melee DH as I can do range damage and and I can tank too. Even when standing still, I can hit stuff near and far.

In my experience, like say when I party with another DH - the advantage is I get to stay alive a lot and in many cases, I get to tank so the other DH can dps while i dps close range.

If not also I can distract a few of the smaller minions (like those accompany the yellow elite) and let the DH / Others settle the rest.
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True, problem with having two-DH in co-op sometimes is that, both are kiting-like-no-tomorrow due to stupid minions and/or packs chasing us all around laugh.gif

After playing with the tank hunter friend, I do realize tanking + DPS is much more better combination than DPS + DPS.

Ah well, let me see if I can get him to post up his current tanking stats & gears, pretty amazing tanking ability IMO.

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post Jul 14 2012, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(cr3aMreApEr @ Jul 14 2012, 01:23 PM)
U definitely need a 2h bow/xbow with quiver.. Ur crit dmg too low so with u ss also not much diff.. Leave ur battletag c if i come across got so so bow i pass 2 u la.. But quiver u need to find urself d...

Sweet.. Later get back home need to view thru ur equip liao polarbearz..
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Haha, you can actually view mine through in-game profile ma tongue.gif
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post Jul 14 2012, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 14 2012, 01:30 PM)
yup. both kiting is run run. shoot once or twice. run run run again.

in my case, i get to tank even for 5 - 10 seconds also good, the other DH / WIZ / WD has ample time to deal a whole bunch of damage before having to run again.


Added on July 14, 2012, 1:32 pmi call mine the "kiasi" build because I really am kiasi when playing DH. LOH 800+, life regen 700+ (i think, figures keep change from time to time) and all resist is 700+ with HP around 30k.

I don't do much damage compared to other DH despite using 900+ dmg weapon with +70% crit gem. still need to upgrade the rest of the armor.

I may have to give up on life-regen.
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laugh.gif You seem to be more suitable with the Tank Hunter + LOH build, but kinda costly to make too (good 1h bow and shields are expensive).


QUOTE(TenSou @ Jul 14 2012, 01:38 PM)
Managed to sell the 200dex|56crd|6.5cc amulet for $250 today.
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drool.gif Wow! That's nice. I wonder how much my amulet can be sold for. Close to 200 dex as well (using star gem).
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post Jul 14 2012, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(cr3aMreApEr @ Jul 14 2012, 02:56 PM)
I did... But its easier to view it with u pasting like this hahaha... Im too dependant on my bow d... It has dex200 vit265 that gives me more adjustment to my other equip.. So i think unless i got a decent xbow which gives some dex n vit with open socket.. sad.gif
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I can understand how you feel. I was heavily dependent on my xbow (+260dex +100vit) last time, and when I finally upgraded my weapon, I lose tons of dex / hp.. but adapted to it slowly and was forced to drop even more dex to +VIT +ALLRES. It was kinda... cry.gif back then
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post Jul 14 2012, 07:40 PM

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Someone teach me how to beat this pack... doh.gif Entrance pack some more.

Apparently bliz team that designed this monster / pack thinks that having one teleport is too.. mainstream. Two teleports (built-in + affix) is too mainstream as well, so.. how about adding a "fast"? laugh.gif

Edit: Finally managed to kill this pack, drag it far far away, die off, go near them slowly and drag one at a time. doh.gif Had to switch to my full gears instead of farming gear, and total repair cost incurred from this pack alone = 70k. shakehead.gif

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post Jul 14 2012, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(alvinfcj @ Jul 14 2012, 11:23 PM)
Polarbearz..... U can help me craft gem? If I provide u with all the gem, how much u charge me? I pan to craft 1 flawless star... I provide u with 3 star emerald n the crafting fees... Any extra charge from u????
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Just provide me what is required to craft (Gems, Crafting Fee, Tomes of Secret) can already. No extra charges since it's kinda pointless laugh.gif
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post Jul 15 2012, 03:12 AM

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QUOTE(milky @ Jul 15 2012, 12:12 AM)
@polarbear if i wan to craft flawless star how much is the crafting fee? & how many tomes needed? thanks xD
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3 star gem, 12 tome, 100k.

Anyway, any starter DH want this weapon? Note that the DPS is kinda low.. but well, it's a starter weapon laugh.gif

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post Jul 15 2012, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(tigery @ Jul 15 2012, 07:13 PM)
anyone can craft perfect emerald? i provide the material
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Perfect Emerald can find nightshade_nova. He charges 15% tho laugh.gif
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post Jul 16 2012, 02:38 AM

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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Jul 16 2012, 01:34 AM)
Hoho thanks Tigery for using my service.

Nowadays dont play much as my friend/farming partner doing an internship for a month.
Mostly just window shopping for things that I couldnt ever afford. tongue.gif
Waiting for my other friend which just got his copy of diablo 3 to reach lvl 60.

Currently bidding all out on a 1 hand with 800loh.
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Where's my advertising fees? tongue.gif

Got pretty bored with farming, farming and more farming as well.. especially when the loot sucks sad.gif

Went to play tank wizard instead, pretty fun! laugh.gif
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post Jul 16 2012, 04:48 AM

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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Jul 16 2012, 03:47 AM)
No can do.Im currently sitting on only 10k gold haha. laugh.gif
Like I said, really went all out.Previously bid on 1k dps 400loh 170dex+socket bow and failed. cry.gif

Now trying my luck with 900dps 800loh.
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Haha, I dumped kinda some gold on my wizzy.. not even sure if it's worth it or not since it's more like, my character for temporary fun doh.gif

Man.. money hard to earn, but easy to spend cry.gif
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post Jul 16 2012, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 16 2012, 10:16 PM)
can you bring all 3 to begin with?


Added on July 16, 2012, 10:17 pm

testing out builds make it fun.

and do achievements!!!  whistling.gif
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laugh.gif Yeah.. endless farming for an entire week without good drops is really, damn bored doh.gif.

I find it fun to mess around with my wizzie / hunt some achievements.. compared to before biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Jer @ Jul 16 2012, 10:19 PM)
Is anyone else playing a tank DH here? I just respec my DH into one and I find it to be quite fun.
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I have one friend that plays tank DH, not sure if I can get him to post his stats / items or not. Kinda tanky as well.
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post Jul 17 2012, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 17 2012, 10:14 AM)
sry for asking a noob question, just started playing DH

whats the pro and cons of using 2 handed crossbows, 1 hander crossbow, dual wield and 2 handed bows?

sometimes the game calculates higher dmg for lower dps 1 handers compared to 2handers crossbow, is it even accurate?
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Yes. 1 handers have overall lower damage than 2 handers.

The damage rating goes from:-
2H Xbow [high min. dmg, high max. dmg, slow atk speed]
2H Bow [lower min. dmg, high max. dmg, medium atk speed]
1H Xbow [low min. dmg, low max. dmg, fastest atk speed].

In end game, depends on your style of playing / build. Heavy critters usually use xbow for its steady / constant damage range, although some may opt for bow for faster attack speed to kite easily / proc more % (since more hits = more chance to proc effect or critical for skills like Night Stalker).

1 handers are usually used by Tank Hunters (to proc LoH more often); or critters as well (must be super-funded) by dual-wielding two handbows with critical damage and a socket (easily 250% critical damage or even more from both weapons).
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post Jul 18 2012, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 18 2012, 01:17 PM)
had an awesome game with wkkay last night.  rclxms.gif

i tanked Inferno Act III Siegebreaker while wkkay do the DPSing. biggrin.gif
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No wonder I saw your pop up achievement yesterday night laugh.gif
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post Jul 18 2012, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(draex3 @ Jul 18 2012, 02:26 PM)
u tank using DH ?shocking.gif
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There's many different builds floating around, especially after 1.0.3. More dual wielders LoH's, more tank hunters (1H + Shield), DH's with balanced stats, Glass cannon DH's, etc etc. laugh.gif

QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 18 2012, 03:00 PM)
yup. smile.gif you can come witness my DH any time you see me online.

i was on my full tank setup, 58k dps ~30k hp, ~800 resist with 3.5k armor. only this setup can survive in Act III. if Barb gives war cry, resist goes above 1k. Fire at 1.2k. biggrin.gif

my usual MF / speed setup with a little higher DPS (around 68k) works fine in Act I / II.

my full DPS setup goes to nearly 80k dmg, works fine in Act I / II but have to do more kiting.

i call my melee / tank DH the "kiasi" build. It's not tank like polarzbearz's friend with 1H bow + shield + 60k HP but it still tanks pretty decently.

Act I i can tank 2 elite packs at once (depending on type). Act II i can tank 1 - 2, depending. Rock Giant and such better run cos a few hit can KO. Act III ah, tanking is only for a while. have to run and kite a bit. tank again.


Added on July 18, 2012, 3:04 pm

yup. that's the one.

i can survive his multiple hits and charge despite 30k hp. however I must drink pot after that because my LOH and regen isn't fast enough to reach the "Safe" level before he does another triple strike.

btw I died at the very last minute, like say 5% of the fella's health left but it was good enough for my party member to deal the final damage.

our first attempt I died at 25% health bar left. KO. 2nd attempt I died too soon (right at the start) so kthxbai too. biggrin.gif in short, I just have to survive long enough to drain enemy HP to lead to the kill. was fun!
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Ah, not really a kiasi build. Just, less frustrations over pointless deaths, right? tongue.gif



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post Jul 18 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(draex3 @ Jul 18 2012, 03:33 PM)
actually i'm not a tanking build,but trying to have enough resistance/hp/armor enough get punch 4/5 times
I can finish act 1/2 with just a breeze (solo) co-op depending on the team ... if a freshly lvl60 ACT1 i can help him/her finish ACT1 .. act2 got issues with fast type of elite/champs

BUT act 3 is still a no no zone for me
for normal mobs i can handle .. but elite/champs .. i still have issue with them
30k~hp 500~ ALL RES 2.9k Armor, 50k dps
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50k DPS with SS or without?

HP and AllRes is fine, but more HP would help too. Ran comfortable at 46k HP ~300 AllRes with ~3k Armor last time.
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post Jul 18 2012, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(draex3 @ Jul 18 2012, 04:11 PM)
ofc w/o SS ... hehe
but 1handed xbow(929dmg w/o dex 49 crit dmg)  which makes me 43% crit chance (33% on equipment + 10%)

y'day i got a bow 1.1k dmg bow with 165 dex  60crit dmg + 3% life steal
i think my dmg should increase to 60k or something .. haven try it out yet
"Ran comfortable" refer to ACT 3?
interesting i shall try again
only got 222 LoH on my ring and a new bow 3% life steal...
i used to used Caltrops in hell but in inferno i feel like it got no effect at all...

right now my strategy is run far far and shoot >_<
smoke screen[lingering] twice (when nessacary)/vault[Acrobatics]  -> preparation[backup] -> smoke screen twice
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50k DPS w/o SS with ~30k hp, ~350 AllRes should be more than enough to farm comfortably in Act 3; at least for me (Tower of cursed level 1, level 2, spider, core arreat, azmodan). Keeps 1/2/3 works as well but much more.. pain in the ass.

I did Tower to azmodan run ever since 35k DPS w/o SS and improved over time (started with 46k HP ~300 AllRes).


Added on July 19, 2012, 12:19 amAnyway, here's my friend's Tank Hunter build for those who are interested.

Stats and items below:

Shield:
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Dual-Wield:
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Disclaimer: This is my friend's item/stats/build, not mine. tongue.gif

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post Jul 19 2012, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(Miurra @ Jul 19 2012, 09:28 AM)
Hi Polar, how much armor did you have back then?
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Roughly 2.9k to 3k. Kept it constant until now laugh.gif

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