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 Demon Hunter Discussion, For bow lovers!! Share your build!

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post Jul 19 2012, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(Miurra @ Jul 19 2012, 02:46 PM)
i'm having about 52k dps without SS, 2.8K armor with ~280AR (380 physical) and 33k hp.
not too sure if i should up my dps or get armor to 3k  to farm act 3 hmm.gif what do you think?
i can farm act 2 quite comfortably now.. act 3 wise, need to pay quite some repair bill  shakehead.gif
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The same question I faced last time, in the end I choose to maintain All Res, Armor and HP and pump my DPS. Works pretty fine right now as I can kill things faster, even if I constantly use my lower-DPS MagFind set.. altho at one point, I increased my AllRes again from ~300 to ~450 (whilst maintaining / improving DPS and HP)
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post Jul 19 2012, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(legiwei @ Jul 19 2012, 04:18 PM)
With 35k DPS w/o SS, are you able to take down those hard hitting mobs (the ones that can blink) especially with Invul/Reflect/Mortar affix to it? So far, that is 1 mob that I fear to encounter (and will probably hv to skip or incur substantial sum on repair cost) to go through. Also, when you say comfortable, don't you find with those stats farming to be slow?
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Ah, my "rather comfortable" is more like its do-able. Sure it's slower than my farming rate right now, and more deaths as well. But the death rate was way better than my previous glass-cannon build (having problems even with white ranged mobs, 1 hit = die). I moved on slowly from being able to survive, dishing out damages slowly. There are troublesome packs as well with low DPS and average survival ability. Like those that you mentioned, Reflect Damage is fine tho as I can take hits, and just Gloom my HP back with Cluster Bombs when I need them. However there are still packs that I used to skip back then, namely the Hulking Phasebeast.

I can take them down with my current stats, BUT will still face problems occasionally especially when the affixes are something like Hulking Phasebeast: Fast Teleporter Firechain <insert something here>
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post Jul 20 2012, 02:37 AM

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QUOTE(edge85 @ Jul 20 2012, 02:01 AM)
my 2 sen for DH. skill > gear.

why some even bother getting so much res/hp? you're not going to tank. you think that extra 10k hp or 500 res will make you live longer? lol.

you're going to evade 99% of any that comes through. maybe you can try having Smokescreen (Linger), Vault (Tumble), Preparation (Focused Mind).
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1. Yes. Definitely helps me live longer with that 10k hp and 500 all res.

2. Yes. Evading is a must but unforeseen situations happens, always. Be it a latency issues, retarded hitboxes, unavoidable projectiles, stuck, suck in kiting, etc. The extra survival does help. smile.gif
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post Jul 20 2012, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(edge85 @ Jul 20 2012, 04:29 AM)
inf act 2-3. if u have 30k hp, 1 hit KO. if 45k hp, still 1 hit KO. what's the difference?

if you like to take hits, then try barb or monk  biggrin.gif
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1 hit KO? Doesn't occur to me that often compared to when I was glass cannon. Except super hard hitting packs or bosses, nothing one shot me now and even better with gloom.

The best part is? It can be easily achieved with only e0pk HP and 350 allres, though the more the better.

Yes glass cannon is still a viable choice for some, but not all. If you prefer glass cannon, by all means go ahead but that doesn't make it superior than balanced dh, or vice versa.


Added on July 20, 2012, 11:46 am
QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Jul 20 2012, 11:21 AM)
Vit on boots are really expensive with AR, and the price is multiplied with ms.You have to compromise somewhere in between if you are in a budget.
The perfect end game boots are always gonna be 100mil min, thats just the cruel reality.

I ditched my boots with vit+50AR+dex(no ms) and picked up a Fire Walker with 0vit+dex+70AR+ms+melee red.

I really felt the difference switching from 0ms to 12ms, so I suggest you dont compromise on ms, sure will have culture shock.
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I agree with this, boots with these perfect stats are really expensive.. until now I couldn't find an upgrade without compromising my ms (24x dex, 8x vit, 4x fire resistance (lulz) and 12% ms)

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post Jul 25 2012, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 25 2012, 04:38 PM)
asking a dodge stat based class to tank 3 stacks is just lol, sry guys, i hardly think its possible, unless you are int based charc like WD or wiz, its more plausible.
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It's possible. My friend's tank DH can tank packs easily, with deaths to certain packs like Arcane Sentry.
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post Jul 25 2012, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(jiidaineko @ Jul 25 2012, 05:09 PM)
even this is do-able with proper timing of shadow  icon_idea.gif
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With Shadow, I bet it'll be even more do-able. In his case, he didn't use Shadow as he's running out of skill slot (MotD:ME + CA:LfB spams)
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post Aug 10 2012, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(milky @ Aug 8 2012, 11:04 PM)
@menenskypride can i see all ur eq's stat?


Added on August 8, 2012, 11:08 pm
i'm having 69k DPS very boring @ act1 ... went to act2 cant survive much...
so tot wan to change to tanker build.. i just need urs as reference thanks
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69k dps w/o SS should be able to go thru even act 3 at a breeze. I can already solo act 3 with 40k dps w/o SS (skip packs like hulking phasebeast, and with few deaths for some elites).

What's your AR, HP and armor?

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post Aug 12 2012, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(duabijitelur @ Aug 12 2012, 09:04 PM)
just wanna ask act 2 need how much armor and ar?
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I can clear act 3 with around 3k armor, 350 AR, 35k HP and at least 40k dps w/o SS. So I think Act 2 will be roughly around these numbers as well.

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post Aug 16 2012, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(milky @ Aug 16 2012, 02:54 PM)
Guys... can anyone.. guide me on making a tanker DH ? becoz i'm getting fed up at act1 edi.. nothin nice.. & boring.. wan to go act2 & act 3..
please guide me on changing everything.. thanks

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/dLakkf-6435/hero/5688589
this is mine DH
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I don't think you'll need to switch to full-tank mode. Your DPS is decent enough at 50k w/o SS, but could be better. Upgrade your bow to 9xx DPS w/ cdmg + socket, and I believe you'll hit AT LEAST 55k DPS w/o SS, which is decent to farm Act 3. Then, you can start stacking SOME allRes (300~350) with around 30k~35k HP, you'll be good enough in Act 3 already.

Before I had my gears that I use now, I used to struggle as well but managed to farm act 3 with minimal death, occasionally skipping some packs (say, Hulking Phasebeasts) with ~30k HP, ~350 AllRes, ~40k DPS w/o SS running the Lightning Ball / Nightstalker build with high crit chance.

Heck, even currently when I run my semi-full MF gear (with ridiculously low DPS) I can survive good enough to farm @ Act 3. So, I think your gears are decent enough with minor upgrades to them.

Here's mine for references if you are interested (currently using semi-MF gears): http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Jishiny...35/hero/5902600

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post Aug 16 2012, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(milky @ Aug 16 2012, 03:07 PM)
i got 1 960dps xbow.. jus now the 600++ i was testing the LOH+900health..

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/dLakkf-6435/hero/5688589

can u help me check which part do i need to change? i mean which equip is not much usage den i change from that eq
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70k DPS w/o SS. Pretty decent IMO. Just need to stack at least 300 AllRes to roll thru act 3 without getting one-shot by everything (might die to heavy hitters still).

So, if I were you, I will first start with some minor gear upgrades: Shoulder and Bracers. Get those with +DEX +VIT +AllRes (and +CritChance for bracers). 80dex/80vit/4.5critchance/50allres are pretty cheap to come by for bracers with the current market, both piece should come under 2mil or even cheaper if lucky.

After that I'll upgrade belt and pants as well, same reason: stacking allres / vit while trying to reduce dex losses. You can upgrade your quiver too if you have more $ to spend. As for the weapon, no need for upgrade yet since 1.0.4 is coming soon and I'm sure that there'll be more higher-DPS w/ cdmg+socket bow by that time.

As for the skill build, you might be needing to fit-in Shadow Power: Gloom somewhere in between for HP regenerations (Gloom, then Cluster bomb = usually insta-full-heals for me) or going against Reflect Damage packs. Pop gloom before cluster bombs, not after, as it'll not work. And the passive skill Grenadier, I have tried it last time but I feel that the -10 hatred cost are not that useful as compared to many others, such as Night Stalker (to regen disc by spamming Lightning Ball); or Tactical Advantage (to kite easily and thus reducing the time needed to shutterstep (shot, shot, SS and run, shot, shot, shot, etc). There's once that I tried Cull of the Weak + Scoundrel cold bow combination, not that bad as well but I prefer TA currently with my MF set, since I cant really take much hits.

And for your primary skill, I'd say that the Spray of Teeth is not really a useful rune. Try Devouring Arrow instead, since there's maths formula posted somewhere in US D3 Forum (I lost the link), that SoT is only useful when you have >86% crit chance. So stick with either Puncturing or Devouring (I prefer devouring for burst).

And finally, as these are purely my opinions based on my DH experience, there might be some mistakes; or opinions that not many will agree upon, so feel free to tweak it and suit it to your needs (I remembered that I tweaked other's build to suit my gameplay and after that, managed to roll Act 3 with minimal deaths (0 to 3 per map) last time.

Anyway as a side note, I don't think our gears differs that much, except a little all res. So I'm pretty sure you can roll Act 3 safe enough once you have some AllRes and prevents one-shotting (I don't think that normal white mobs will one shot you now, but I'm not sure since I have been running 300Res minimum for quite some time)

Edit2: For the Gloom, maybe you can replace caltrops with it. To top-up with the mob-slowing-ability, equip your Scoundrel with a Cold Bow + Multishot = free slowing.


Added on August 16, 2012, 3:17 pm
QUOTE(milky @ Aug 16 2012, 03:07 PM)

Added on August 16, 2012, 3:11 pmbtw how many MF% u got?
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179% MF with scoundrel. Occasionally switch two pieces (gloves and amulet, adding 15% and 29%) if I'm on the mood, but I hate switching so I usually run with these MF only.

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post Aug 16 2012, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(milky @ Aug 16 2012, 03:28 PM)
wow thanks polarbearz ur opinion i think will make me alot happier since no need to camp at act1 for rest of my life  tongue.gif

i'll try to tweak abit my skills & my eqs.. thanks for the advice..
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Don't worry, I was as frustrated as you are feeling right now last time. But the problem was mainly my skill build (Was running ~350 AllRes ~35k HP ~40k DPS) and keep dying @ Act 3, after the nerf to NT.

Until I stumble upon some thread @ d3 forums, tried to mix-and-match my skill build with the OP's post and bang! The problem was really my skillbuild and not my equipments.

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post Aug 16 2012, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(milky @ Aug 16 2012, 05:30 PM)
LOL.. after i followed polarbearz's advice i can survive 1 hit of kulle's meteor.. LOL.. 

thanks gladfly.. i will try to sell off my NAT's eq den invest on a better helm stats..
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And don't forget chests too laugh.gif
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post Aug 16 2012, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(milky @ Aug 16 2012, 05:51 PM)
LOL.... ya.. thanks.. finally can tank few hits @ act 2... later try act 3..
i can get minimum death almost 2 to 4 times per map.. need to brush up my skill sync
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That's a good start. But don't do mistakes like I do last time, where I get a little.. c0cky and went to tank mobs (of course I died) when I'm supposed to be kiting instead. laugh.gif
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post Aug 17 2012, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(milky @ Aug 17 2012, 05:06 PM)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/dLakkf-6435/hero/5688589
Newest Eqs.. but still bidding on a helm ..
what stats suit the best?

80dex
50All res
Crit Chance 4.5
1 Socket with 15% Life

This combo good? or can recommend me?
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QUOTE(milky @ Aug 17 2012, 05:27 PM)
the glove u bought is cheap.. but do not have AR.. ok ?
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That 80dex 50AR socketed w/ 4.5 CC should be good enough. I'm using that stats too, since can't afford higher dex w/ AR, socket, CC 4.5 yet.

As for your gloves, I think you can ditch AR from there (since getting AllInOnes are expensive). Compensate the AR from other parts, since glove is one of the items that boost our DPS by a lot. Get one with at least 150 DEX, 8.5CritChance, 25CritDamage, VIT / AR is a bonus.

You can use mine as a reference: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Jishiny...35/hero/5902600, tho it might get updated anytime and become some lame nat sets that I use to farm achievement points lol


Added on August 17, 2012, 7:15 pm
QUOTE(milky @ Aug 17 2012, 06:50 PM)
for my belt & pants.. do i really need to change it? my pants + belt gave me 250Vits
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You can keep first to save up for more budgets, if you want. But you'll lose two parts for you to stack up at least 80~100 AR

Edit: By the way, I noticed that you are using the wrong rune for Shadow Power. Use the one that -65% incoming damage (Gloom), good to tank for a bit when SP is up.

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post Aug 18 2012, 04:31 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 18 2012, 03:37 AM)
My 3rd hero, DH, just completed Inferno.
Going to move on to either Wiz and WD.
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You clear until inferno without skipping quests?

For me all my sub chars, ask friend WP me to boss fight of each act only. Haha.


Added on August 18, 2012, 4:34 am
QUOTE(milky @ Aug 18 2012, 12:25 AM)
quite lucky today..
got a glove iLVL63
69Dex
70 All Res
37% Crit Dmg
10% Crit Chance
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Not bad with the high rate & damage to compensate the loss of dex.

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post Aug 18 2012, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(milky @ Aug 18 2012, 10:41 AM)
ya same.. around 20k - 120k aaverage..58kdps..

let say
if i take all the crit dmg+ crit chance out...
out all eqs  to MAX DEX.. will i bump up the minimum damage? will it be better? & eq will be cheaper right?
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By using your theory, yes, the minimum damage will be higher, but you'll lose out a lot on max potential damage (without crits, or etc)
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post Aug 20 2012, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Aug 20 2012, 12:25 PM)
Stop farm now and train new character before 1.0.4..
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Why? unsure.gif

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post Aug 21 2012, 10:15 AM

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Caltrops
Skill Rune - Jagged Spikes
Can no longer trigger procs


Procs as in x% to freeze/stun/etc; or everything including LoH?
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post Aug 21 2012, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Aug 21 2012, 10:39 AM)
My guess is everything, but we'll only get to experiment with it once 1.04 rolls out.

Looks like I won't be able to use my tank build to help friends with Ghom and Iskatu anymore sad.gif
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I kind of expect this kinda nerf will hit, but this is much worse than my expectations (my guess was, they will lower the co-efficient from 0.66 to 0.33 or something like that).

They totally eliminated jagged spike, and halved everything else (gas grenades, and shuriken cloud) sweat.gif
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post Aug 21 2012, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(Lau Pan @ Aug 21 2012, 09:56 PM)
it is 1.0.4 make DH, wiz and WD hard to tank??
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"Working as intended" by Blizzard, using their crappy logic like:

"Oh, build diversity is good.. blah blah blah"
-right, here we'll nerf range classes tanking ability since they aren't meant to tank at all-


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