QUOTE(dino10chels @ Jun 6 2012, 10:55 AM)
dont think that is possible Investment My first home property investment: Flora Damansara, Advise, Feedback, & Comments?
Investment My first home property investment: Flora Damansara, Advise, Feedback, & Comments?
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Jun 6 2012, 10:03 AM
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Jun 16 2012, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(pekanmy @ Jun 16 2012, 05:24 PM) Hi Corus, thanks for your honest input. to be very honest, after reading this, I just want to say, hiking up price can be done anytime. however, not anytime will a buyer be interested to buy depending on the situation. on another note, developer wont tell anything until you "get it", which is usually too late already. for me, it's better to be safe than sorry. Usually people who already bought it, there's no other choice but to reason out reasons that can comfort them. Even in Block E, it is very dirty...i cant deny it.Highland Towers tragedy in 1993 was awake-up call for hillside developer and buyer. Landslide usually happen when the soil hold too much water or it is over expose. Flora was built in 2001 -2005 and on limestone hill in Bukit Lanjan Forest reserved which is covered with trees. Limestone hill do not hold much water (that is why there is a waterfall on the hilltop beside Flora). Even some of the rock need to be cut (at the back of block H & F) during construction. I believe the developer of Forest Hill next to Flora is very aware of this negative selling point before they put RM2.8 millions price tag for their unit. The truth is I feel safe staying at the top floor of Block H but I am worried driving on KL road. After considering the rental rate, leasehold status, location, potential of improvement, market price of surrounding properties, ongoing development, future development or no more development as it is forest reserved, the view (selected units only) and current cost of construction. I believe by next year, a good 850sqft unit will be price at RM180k to RM210k. Added on June 16, 2012, 10:56 pm QUOTE(Bali ais @ Jun 16 2012, 10:44 PM) Any idea those unit facing LDP view is facing west or east? Hill view is facing west or east? Any difference between blocks E, F, G, H in terms of occupant? One of the sales agent actually told me block E having the most local occupant. Wonder whether is it true... actually Block E has a lot of foreigners also as compare with the other blocks. the reason is majority of the investors, chinese buy it to rent out to people. and usually they will rent to people who want cheaper rent more than chinese, the reason being is chinese cant stand such unconducive area, though there are chinese also staying there(but much lesser). on a glance you will notice the material for both low & medium cost are quite cheap materials I would say.This post has been edited by sakura888: Jun 16 2012, 11:29 PM |
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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Jun 17 2012, 12:06 AM) Stop being racist in your comments. I'm not sure if ALL chinese cant live in a dirty place as i can see them in some other dirty place also.please becareful when give negative comments.only supportive data can support your input or unless it is just a crap comments. then i will tell you back, stop being ignorant ! ( and sensitive too ) My phrase wasnt being aiming at race for that matter ! I didnt say ALL CHINESE, you interpret it yourself. I was just telling based on my observations and feedback. if you feel this is crap, then why bother to reply anymore ? Besides, my comments was a general comments for chinese, stop making drama out of such petty things.i will change the word, though it wont be accurate anymore This post has been edited by sakura888: Jun 16 2012, 11:25 PM |
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Jun 16 2012, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Jun 17 2012, 12:30 AM) Do you have a data of flora dsara residenst? If dont,u just shoot in the air,dude! Making a -ve comments and relate it with specific race is just an immatured behaviour. excuse me, why should I have the data of flora damansara when I have friends living there ? in fact, I frequent there too. Besides, my comment is not wrong either. I think you should stop being too racist sensitive yourself.as for others, hey I dont want to destroy the discussion environment....keep on going. This post has been edited by sakura888: Jun 16 2012, 11:51 PM |
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QUOTE(ahbaoahbao @ Jun 18 2012, 11:53 AM) Hmmm... I feel weird when there are/were some ppl "discussing"/criticizing/whatever the value of flora D. that is not as good as other high-end/high-class building.. Be honest. Flora costs less than 200k, so its facility, environment and amenities won't be as good as those bangalows, high-end condo (icon city? sunway south quay?)... If you expect flora should be as good as those high-end one, then the price is already 300k, 500k or even 1 million... For me, initially the developer built this block(s) as part of their social responsibilities. They need to take care of those who are poor.. just like us (or me). And of course, have to admit -- lower cost, less facility. Myvi can never compete with BMW 7 series, right? - actually right, "those that critised" dont have any hidden agenda. but they also didnt expect high-end facilities. hhhmm, i also felt strange you pay maintenance fees, even though less than rm100 but you are contented to see it's surroundings dirty ? ( i mean truthfully ), and the lift in a very "scary" condition ? be aware that these people "who critised" are people who are concern for your safety & well-being in this property. The "other people" who always says we like to critise is only concern only money. and as a buyer, do you feel worth it to buy such area for such price ? be also aware that Im not jealous to see you buy a property in FD you know. If Im jealous, I wont even critise.... In PJ/damansara area, those housing/properties with strict security patrol/smart access system, nice and clean environment, well arranged traffic flow and parking system, good-managed and function-well facility... cost u at least 400k or even reach 1 million++... - doesnt mean because it is cheap, it needs to be dirty right ? aiya, maybe different people got different eyes. But cleanliness is something should be same for everyone. Flora is improving due to the JMC's hardwork. But in order to see the very significant changes, it takes longer time. By that time, flora won't be as low as <200k... So for those investors, i think they believe that the JMC can improve Flora and when Flora becomes better and better, price increases more and more, they may earn greater and greater.. Vice versa, they need to bear the risk where if Flora becomes worse -- landslide /crimes/frequent lift-breakdown/whatever, they loss their money... - i agree also. But even before it improves better, the price increase first. And for those who think Flora is only worth less than 100k (indeed i like it -- pay less), I would appreciate if you can point out any apartment that is similar to flora (in terms of security, facility etc ) but lesser price -- <100k ... nobody says it is below rm100K but rm180K for 850 sqft...that's too much. I am not an owner.. I am just a tenant.. Of course I wish to buy a flora unit (medium cost) that is less than 100k -- but if really got one day like this, i believe the condition at that time is much worse than current one -- worse condition, less price, vice versa... - maybe ? who knows.....the economy is volatile now, the first to be affected is apt & condo. Added on June 18, 2012, 11:08 amIt's just like when we go to 70k flat, we might complain... wow so unmanaged, no lift, sometimes no water, got kes kecurian etc.. if u want nicer (and afford to have), then choose flora -- has lift, "less hardworking" security staff, nicer view, but many foreigners etc; not enough? choose metropolition block C, three tier security, very nice swimming pool, gym and other facilities -- 650k; still not good enough? choose Sunway south quay -- 1 million per unit, got own super big lake, proposed high way, lrt, bet etc... wow... - i see your point. but do you ever wonder the maintenance fees is used to do what ? For me, there is always a proportionality between condition/environment and price... Have to admit -- in the world that plays with "capitalism", that is the reality. But please don't get misunderstood that "hence, I deserve to experience those thieves, burglary, raping cases if i stay in low cost housing/property".. Hehe.. Different story... - you choose it mah, so you have to live with the property package man....that's the reality. and basically, those that critised are giving you some pointers....not to scare people away man. haih, in other wordsm the words may be harsh but tey are honest. Added on June 19, 2012, 12:10 am QUOTE(ahbaoahbao @ Jun 18 2012, 01:12 PM) My two cents: I am a Chinese. But the moment you used that sentence, i feel that's because, majority of my friends are chinese mah. but im being blunt about what I say wat. It's not I purposely use race to critise this place Yes, I believe you did not want to voice out any "racist" term, but the way u mentioned was to make ppl feel "aiduh, kenapa nak cakap macam tuu.. tak kan only Chinese mahu good condition... Semua orang nak jugak " 说者无心,听者有意“ I believe ALL people want to stay/buy a better/unconducive nice place; it is related to the budget u have, not the race... If I am afford to drive BMW with personal guard protection, why do I go for Myvi without personal guard? If I offend you , sorry for that. But as a Chinese, if I can feel that uneasy statement, for sure other ppl will feel that too... nolah you dont offend me, you are polite actually. This post has been edited by sakura888: Jun 19 2012, 12:10 AM |
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