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mat79
post May 14 2012, 08:53 AM

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if u want to gauge century sprint performance, just do it as manual car coz this is clutch based cvt. Slot to d@s mode, dont press the foot brake, only engange handbrake, feed some throttle, feel the car like to move as u r doing ur manual car when stoping uphill, then disengage the handbrake n in the same time pedal to metal. Test it also with manual mode by sloting the gear lever to the left +- area too. N remember during manual mode, dont shift beyond 5k rpm mark or it will shift for u.

Reminder, do it at least after 1k km service.

Sorry, cant help much on car allocation. On fc, the 6.6l fc ia at 90kmh constant, tested on test track, one person onboard,which its call as control environment. its normal fc gauge by manufacturer in malaysia. Fc will be varied depends on variables.already mentioned earlier how to get the most efficient town driving earlier. Salam.
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post May 14 2012, 09:19 AM

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already explain about one way valve probs before. Erm, about one girl's friend blm tcu problem, since u r being honest mentioning the dealer sc forget to stamp the service book, another way is to ask any dealer sc(wakil servis,not branch sc coz branch sc has system that intergrated everytime u servicing the car) that u r always servicing, ask goodfaith from sa to stamp it and backdated the date. I know its not really good things to do that, but since u r actually service, thw sc do it wrongly, so, try to get the stamp(tipu sunat).

If u already send the car to eon sc to rectify the problem previously, this time send to prtn sc and vice versa coz their systems are not the same. Please only do this if something like this happened, not becoz u do not service at any eon or prtn sc, n just to take advantage of it on warranty part. Hope this help.

Ps, dont tell anyone that i tell u this. Tq in advance.
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post May 14 2012, 04:25 PM

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deepan84, have u done ur 1k service? If not, do complaint on bad fc coz its actually too bad. Ask them to retune ecu n tcu n check also ur one way valve, incase its related to ur bad fc coz eventhough it wont damage ur fc, but it can contribute to bad fc n under performance coz vvt not operate efficiently coz no oil retain especially during stop n go operation. If already service, go to sc when free time.

Hope this help.
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post May 14 2012, 04:31 PM

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yup, fc will be better after 1k service, but no harm checking. 10w 30/5w 30/0w 30 will contribute better fc than xxw 40, but not a big diff, but its nearly same price as xxw 30, so, why not using xxw 30. Unless u r really driving highspeed all the way, than u need better heat rating, but i think xxw shud be suffice. But dont use lower heat rating below 30, then u shud be fine.

Another thing, please check tyre pressure so that not under or over inflated. Used the recommended one which available at ur door. Upfront n back will have diff pressure if not mistaken.
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post May 16 2012, 12:44 PM

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there is some catch on the service schedule on cars provided earlier. For example, forte used fully syn engine oil for every service, hence srvice interval is longer, every 10k km, while all prtns are using mineral@sem syn oil hence 5k service interval. For persona, waja, saga n campro based engine, 5k service is only needed if using mineral@semi syn oil, n 3 free labour service only for 1k, 5k n 10k, n after 10k service, can use fully syn same as forte service schedule to prolong service for every 10k per change. Not 5k, and the cost will be nearly the same as forte if using fully syn, 10k service period for 5 years.

For cfe n iafm+, the service is a bit cheaper than other campro variant coz diff gear box oil change interval, diff timing belt change interval, n diff cost of gearbox oil n timing change kit.

About other manufacturers, no comment since dunno how they operated. Hope everybody clear on the table n dont jump to conclusion without understand it. Some wear n tear parts are varied in term of change interval such as brake pads coz ot depends on usage. Some can last up more than 100k km the pads without change.

Hope this help.
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post May 16 2012, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ May 16 2012, 12:55 PM)
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I can see ya... tongue.gif

Agreed, if it continue like this will surely be the last Proton for me too. Damn budget constrain. If I were Donald Triumph, oops  oops.gif ...
Bro Mat79,

U really don't have any idea how they allocate the car eh? Got no friends in the production line? All this waiting & seeing lucky son of his mother who book later than get the car first is really depressing...  icon_question.gif  sad.gif
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sorry saya dhuang coz i dont have any contact on the assembly line, n also none on pesb n eon coz they are the one doing the distribution. But already raised concern to my source on that, hence many entity involve, but on my source parts, they already do their best cconveying the message.

Izputra, u can get the cost by downloading the service cost n schedule from prtn edar websites. Need also to check on engine oil price coz in prtn they only quoted semi syn, coz since the fully syn oil prices are varied, some the oil only already cost u 300++.

Dunno about forte maintenance price already including the oil price coz generally standard fully syn oil already cost u rm 200, whethe shell, mobil, esson petronas n etc.


Added on May 16, 2012, 1:28 pmn dont afraid to hentam them on the delivery part, especially report officially to them.

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post May 17 2012, 02:56 PM

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erm, on export prtn, it is the same as local if u r talking about metal sheet n chasis. The diff is the equipment list hence of the regulations which is due to homogolations n market such airbags, leather seats n etc.

Not the tin milo body for malaysia, hard body for export coz if u look at export arena, its only scored 1 star in ncap. N its export version. The diff, its equip with airbags.

About quality, its the same coz if u search deeper to prtn owners club out there, they also faced problems, but less coz the number of cars also less if u compare with malaysia.

Price of course has differences due to diff tax structions(excluding the promotions thinggy). Look at prtn price in thai, singapore n indo, u can see the diff in price, even in malaysia. No car in the world has same price all over the world. It depends on specific country.

About the accident, really sorry hearing them. Hopefully everyone drive safely even ur car is the safest car in the world. condolences the the victims.
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post May 17 2012, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(tkaira @ May 17 2012, 06:17 PM)
i went to shah alam with a total distance 175km (to and fro) with average speed of 130km/h +- with occasional 160 or 150 ..amount of fuel used? rm30..I'd say not bad as my 1.3 saga would also use around rm30 if i managed avrg speed of 130km/h ..and why occasional 160? i found this babe on the hiway user posted image

as u can see its the non CFE variant but i'm not sure its the manual of cvt..but what i can say is the pickup of that car was fast..maybe he was in s as i was in d but it sure was fast.. i mean he was fucuking camrys and bimmers  tongue.gif
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r u sure its somebody's car, not a company car? :-), n is it non cfe or cfe manual mule :-), he...he...just guessing based on the plate number, chow...
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post May 17 2012, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(ahaidir777 @ May 17 2012, 09:48 PM)
Hi guys, need ur opinion on which type of oil is best  for the prevé;

a) semi synthetic for 5,000km

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b) fully synthetic for 10,000
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for 1st n 2nd 3 free labour service, semi, the 3rd service at 10k, used fully, can save up on labour cost, oil filter, washer n time.

But if u serve ur car as coach or involve in high mileage driving(it fall under severe condition which need u to service every 5k km)like minimum 5k km@more is reachable in 1 month, so, just used semi xw 40.

For normal driving, like covered around 40k km for a year, Used xw 30 rating for semi@fully syn for better fc. If always travel at high speed, mean really high speed,revving like mad :-), xw 40 is a better option whether fully@semi.
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post May 17 2012, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ May 17 2012, 09:53 PM)
Hinting something, DSZ?
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since there is none is bump to hatch preve prototype, maybe somebody could come across in some minds that maybe they used preve as the mule for testing...just my thought :-),ha...ha... Gudnite.


Added on May 17, 2012, 10:09 pmim not dsz.

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post May 21 2012, 11:21 AM

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try to explain one more time for town driving. When the car already moving, dont drive even at 2k rpm coz u already enter the turbo zone. Drive below 2k rpm means 1.9k@1.8k is suffice enough for town driving. Just rely on vvt rather than turbo. 2k rpm already cruise u to speed 100kmh n 2.3k rpm is around 110kmh+-. In town, u dont cruise at that speed.

Unless u have owv probs, then even driving below 2k rpm, the fc will be higher coz vvt is not at their efficienct rate.

But that is only one factor. The engine still tight. It takes time to loosen up them. Fc also depends on loads, traffic conditons n etc. Check also the tyre pressure, makes sure it is not more@less than recommended by prtn.

N those who is never go for 1st service@below 1k km, if u have allignment problem, can claim at prtn branch sc the allignment for free if they provide the service. U also can claim from ur sa if he@she willing at outside tyre shops, just remember, no chamber adjustment, only toe adjustment. All toes must be 0, right n left n total toe.


Added on May 21, 2012, 11:23 amah, just noticed someone mentioned on gear numbers when driving cfe, are u using manual mode? For better fc, just use full cvt mode that is D. Driving in town at speed 60-80kmh is the best.

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