Just called by SA saying one white cfe can give me bcoz owner want to wait for next series of alphabet which is next month. I was so happy at first. I immediately go and check out the car first, armed with all the knowledge i gained from you forummers
There were 3 silver, 2 white and 1 black there. The white chassis 25XX. Those are the digits that i hate including .. 2,4,5,7,0. Nonetheless, I am very eager to forgive the numbers when I saw the white baby. The keys were not ready for me to inspect the inside of the car. Black cfe park next to it is chassis 31XX. Was it a coincidence?? I get to compare the outside of 2 different batches. The White really expose the strong and humble character of the Preve. It seems the paint job was good and I am satisfied with the outlook of the White. After waiting for over 15 minutes, still the keys are not ready. As a result I dont get the chance to inspect the welding, usb, glove box etc. But I suddenly recalled the fog lights on left front side does not have cover. I bent down and saw it missing and that confirms the hole is meant for ventilation and cooling. But when I check the black cfe, both sides got cover. That means the missing cover is really MISSING! It seems they have rectified a few issues in the 2nd batch production and I am not sure what else they rectified as I cant get inside the car to looksie.
From that moment, I told the SA that I have decided to wait for 2nd batch or maybe those 1st batch which have been recalled and rectified. Of course, we can easily get a cover replaced during first service but the chassis number and the missing cover sums up my conclusion. Sometimes it's better to let your sixth sense make the decision. If your heart feels something amiss, then don't force yourself or try to convince yourself. You end up cheating yourself to make your heart happy for a minute, and end up hating yourself for the rest of the minutes.
Let's all be patient and hope we get a unit that is from a good batch.
sometimes follows your heart, if feel something amiss.
Spotted a Blue CFE. Dunno whos the owner.. Beside the receptionist area...in real life eye.....the blue color seems to be nicer... the iphone lens cannot capture the true color...i dunno maybe just me seeing it differently..
Two days ago. go to COSE. Got into at 7.20am. 8 am sharp I pass my car to the Receptionist Service Advisor... his name is Mr. Rasidi.
1030 My Mileage.
at around 9.30am he says my car already service. Complete. I have whole list of stuffs that i need to check. He say luckily the CAT team is around. CAT team is specifically created for preve. So any customer complain they can act to it and logged down into their customer complain book. I gave them my list of essay. One by one I check with them. Four people overall but i only talk to two most of the time. Mr Shamsudin is the technical personnel at CAT.. I am not that technical so he explain me in layman term and Mr Husni he is the one initiate to ask the foreman to change stuffs for me and re check my door lock (door lock not a problem just a bit hard to close at the back...)
My list...apparently they took my two page of A4 paper essay to photostat they say want to keep record... *****************
1) Not sure if I just put in full petrol using petronas 95(when using BHP dont have that feel) ... Feel like not enough power if it is below 60kmph. Feel like want to mati engine. Check and see why my car mati engine when i try to reverse. Is not cold start. It is after journey. after rain..so should be no issue like temperature that cause it to mati engine. it is flat road. no uphill or down hill reverse. Question and answer from CAT Team: they ask how many time it occurs i say only one. They say till now only total of 10 preve been service in cose. This one they will check further. they still not sure what contribute to the engine mati condition. They say am i going off when cold start i say no. after journey of 30 mins on the road highway reach office want to reverse parking. advice on this. if reoccur we will look into this closely. for now try to when in D mode dont suddenly press R and press the pedal. break when in D switch to N a while then switch to R then only press accelerator. But until now nothing happen. Maybe during that time my car still move forward and i quickly change to R then press accelerator...i not too sure CAT team also never encounter that to any of their test machine. 2) My Paint issue on the passenger door driver side on the right. got three patch like three spot around 2 inch diameter a bit blur. only can be seen under light and at 25 or 30 degree angle. i think they did not check properly before apply clear coat. the surface is smooth but can see there is a different color tone. little bit light silver...compare to other color which is properly mix.. Question and answer from CAT Team: Mr Shamsudin told Mr Rasidi to take that to note. They will try to send my application to HQ Tanjung Malim. If approve they will ask see if can touch up my paint at the back bumper. (I terlanggar pasu bunga....sendiri punya masalah.) but they say try to ask them if free then do it. if need to charge they will call me first before proceed and ask me if i want or not. They use sticker to stick and took picture fill in form then send to tanjung malim plant.. that is where the paint place they says.. 3) Fog lamp area. dunno suppose to have hole or is it suppose to be closed. left got hole is it suppose to be like that to let hot air out? or they forget to fit that plastic cover? Question and answer from CAT Team: Mr Shamsudin told me the other hole is for the hot air to come out. All cars is like that. They already take note on this and will check if all new batch got any cover. No changes on the cover. 4) My gear lever indicator light. all the other alphabet not as bright as N and R. green and red color..the rest white color very light only even after adjust brightness. Question and answer from CAT Team: Mr Husni bring me to several preve cars around the Service Center. 4 cars and show me is all the same. Even show me to change the dashboard brightness and i told him i already know this. Cause i thought all color is same brightness like N and R. He told me to look at dashboard when change the gear. Cause i told him at night when i switch my gear i cannot see...so at one time i switch to N at hill slope..i press the accelerator my car go backward...i change back P change again...again is N so i think the white color need to clearer. So he say he will take note and maybe will let the new batch cars have this feature. I think is all design same. 5) My Rim everyday full of brake dust. Black color dust. Not sure the brake they use is low quality or what. Is it suppose to have brake dust everyday or it must be clean? at this rate i think every three or six month need to replace brake pad already. i scared the brake pad finish fast then it will cost my disc plate to become uneven if not change on time.. Question and answer from CAT Team: Mr Shamsudin told me the brake dust is normal. Even if high quality or low quality brake pad it will still come out with brake dust. Apply to all new or old car that got disc brake. Our brake pad is made in Malaysia. low cost but quality wise is good. It is made of more than 120 different raw materials to create this brake pad. Thats why our braking system is stop faster. Bigger plate and good brake pad. 6) Check to see if my coin get into the gear box console area. coins and paper might slip in and i afraid that it will cause harm to my cvt gear. Question and answer from CAT Team: Mr Shamsudin told me not to worry. Coin or paper fall inside also nevermind..cause nothing is in there just carpet. It will not reach the CVT gear box it wont spoilt it. I ask if can take out. He say can but better dont cause is new dont take out and reassemble. Only one coin. and is 20 cent coins. If during the process take out the whole center console cause the plastic to break then is a tedious process again to check for parts and replace. ok i leave it...just 20 cent anyway. 7) Check see why my light open DLR and the small light when i put in auto during morning and also my wiper not responding when got light drizzle rain. suppose to start the level 1 wipe then stop. I already change the sensitivity of the wiper to the max +++sign. can i open just the drl light without the back light on? during morning or afternoon i just want open drl light i dont want my back to have light. only after i open the small light then only the back light on can or not? can it be set using their diagnostic system? Question and answer from CAT Team: Mr Husni explain during morning around 6.30am or 7.30am if the sun no direct at the sensor on your windscreen you will still have the light out unless you close it. He say most of the preve owner dont ask how it work. They not too sure on it but don't ask. They say i am good got ask so they explain on how the wiper works. some read manual already still dunno how it works. So he show me how to make wiper auto works. he says push lever top once. it will start to wipe. then go back to neutral. then push back the lever down one level. then he use my water bottle pour it near to the sensor. It works. so you must push up once put in neutral then push down lever once in order to activate the auto wiper. If rain heavier it will go faster automatically. 8) check and see why my passenger door right hand side near my driver door. cannot be close properly must use harder force to close. Question and answer from CAT Team: I use same force....(not sure if i can agak agak my strength but i know i use the same amount of strength the back doors at the back left and right cannot close tight...is like harder to close. ) So Mr Husni show to me. wind down your window one and then try close again. The vacuum cost it harder to close. Is still new the door latch still tight like got spring and add with the vacuum. He say as you can see the front door is shorter little bit than the back door length so is heavier also. not much but a bit. So indeed is easier to close with the window wind down. cause the air can go out. All the rubber sealing make it become vacuum tight.
9) Check my window lining at the passenger side left front seat place. it is not as firm attach as the other three window. Question and answer from CAT Team:Mr Husni immediately ask the foreman to change the whole window lining for me. No Charges. They saw it is like a bit flimsy and not tight enough. after change same as other window. 10) The sluggish start from 0 to 5kmph.. need to press until around 1800 to launch the car... or maybe 2000 is it is in roundabout situation. or should i press harder and get use to it? Question and answer from CAT Team: Mr Shamsudin says Euro 5 emission standard that's why they want the fumes to come out lesser. Carbon Monoksida can come out lesser. base on him only domestic people complain. At oversea no one will complain. Starting slow is never mind even you press little bit 1.5k can move car already. I told him if like that my oil will become lesser he say no it is already been calibrate in such away during the initial start it will not consume that much plus also the clutch plate from the CVT take time to close. After 1000 or 5000 or 10000 service it will be better when everything is loosen up.
11) ask not to use X1R. and ask not to use Magnetec.... Question and answer from CAT Team:Mr Rasidi told me Magnatrap good can trap all the metal stuffs down there. So after the wash brain I say ok..Magnatrap cost RM68. is a piece of magnet that put down at the oil sum to trap the metal stuffs..he says. can make engine live longer. I told not to use X1R. I selected fully synthetic oil. He say customer can select full or semi. anyway around 5000 also need to check and go for service. 10k also need. So the schedule will be 1k, 5k and 10k is compulsory. then from then you can select semi or fully.... for me i will use fully all the way...i want to take care my engine. My total.. 1K service is RM268.55. without that magnatrap it will only cost 200.55 12) Ask them to use coolant to replace rather than water to replace. for my radiator safety Question and answer from CAT Team:Mr Husni says no change on this. first 1K no change coolant water. So no need worry. 13) ask them remap ECU and or TCU(I dunno what is this) Sd2-MC-Proton_MSB_D_2012 v4 any one way valve issue? Question and answer from CAT Team: Mr Shamsudin says if got one way valve issue during cold start can have a sound like louder than normal. his sound tak tak tak tak...but i dunno i think dun have so he say if dont have no one way valve issue. It will have affect on the fuel consumption if have. and for the ECU or TCU remap he says no need. actually the HQ did not recommend to change or retune any ECU. He says no doubt this ECU version can help to eliminate the sluggish issue but for now no need to change anything. He will check and see if all new batch car have this ECU remap then it will be official for now no memo or anything from HQ indicating to change ECU remap.
No ECU remap. He say no need to do it. No memo or anything official from the HQ but indeed after 1000 service I feel response on paddle faster i usually need to press till 1.8 to 2k to move car now 1.5 i can move car already. and i can feel the car more responsive...maybe due to i use the fully synthetic oil. i think it is thinner. that's why the car more responsive. so anyone of you if really insist on changing they have no choice but change. he ask me can go with it without change i say still can but if can get faster start during my traffic light and roundabout i feel more safe la. ask me to go back during 5k and see if really need they will do it. 14) Ask and see why my engine sound loud. or am I too sensitive? In cabin not much sound can be heard just outside when i warm up my car...i feel the sound is louder than my neighbor honda citu idsi...old car..i jealous..why my new car engine sound louder or is it turbo charge engine will have that characteristic? Question and answer from CAT Team: Mr Husni and Mr Shamsudin told me. All turbo cars will be heaty and a little bit noisier from the NA. the whinning sound from CVT and from turbo unit they already set it very minimal by putting alot of sound proof on this car. he ask me to touch the car ceiling and the floor when take out the floor mat. all is like soft sponge. This car is most heavily sound proof. You know usually turbo car got the blow off valve that have psssts sound. That is also have even a soft turbo but they already eliminate all that. This is a family sedan not a sports car so usually old people don't like the sound. Is just that young people like some will like some dont like. So the engine sound when start let him hear he says is normal. So after all the conversation...i got chance to kacau Mr Husni smoking break time...and ask him about the car delay send by Sales Agent at various place around Malaysia he says...now total got 7686 order (in 1 month) 75% is CFE variant. I ask is it cause of not enough turbo engine he the only thing he can comment is vendor fault on not giving enough parts. Thats why cannot cope and need everyone to wait for one or two months. He says proton already do their best to delay the oversea sale and make sure all demand from here properly cover first. So only change black oil, change window lining, put magnatrap. at the end I end up go back at 1pm. from 8 am to 1pm.
reach home at 2pm have a nap ZZzzz...
that's all the whole long story of a half day in COSE.
about coolant, can use 100% coolant without mixture of distilled water? not 50/50 mixture? when go SC to service radiator, do they usually flush out before pour new coolant mixture with distilled water?
gear indicator light, hmm they should make it brighter for all. perhaps they need to enlarge the font for the light to pass through or better still make it indicated on the SID.
so what about the braking with copter sound? normal for new brake pad or faulty disc brake?
I can DIY for you. Your camera will be attached with double sided tape on the bootlid, then the wires will run outside of your car (sticked to the body with masking tape) then through your window, so you can never fully wind up your glass. The display will be attached to your windscreen with cheapo suction cup. Power supply via 12V battery.
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No cutting wires, no drilling holes, warranty still intact!! Only every time you need to connect the battery when you start the car.
Labour cost charge you RM10 la.
hahaha, nice one simple diy.
erm i was thinking, if using aftermarket, drill and wiring run from trunk to the front via the car seat down under, then using a separate 12v batt with a switch would be better than using the 12v socket. also can have ambient led light install.
but would the 12v batt safe to use when u park under hot sun?
QUOTE(tehaikbeng @ May 21 2012, 02:22 PM)
If I wish getting my car plate no start with WWW, when is the best time to do booking? now?
every two weeks one alphabet i think. so most probably in june u can book. now is WWT7191
This post has been edited by stargate8: May 21 2012, 02:33 PM
today mornin while start car, some weird sound before car turned on. cold start prob kot. but nothin draggy or serious.
fuel consumption has been terrible. my rpm always either 1.7k-2k but sp far 1bar left, done 280km++. disappointing. if i dun press til 2k rpm the car like heavy and super slow pick up.
p/s normally show room unit seat plastic wrapper will be taken off right.
hmm, what's ur batch series?
so those above 3xxx series, so far no major problem?
Well.. Everything seems fine for me except that my power window switch is a little bit lift up from it's original place.. (just a little visual defect).. I can't really tell about the performance as i'm used to driving my mom's 1992 saga.. :-P (poorfag here).. My SA gave me: Proton keychain worth rm12 Smartag - worth rm120 Baseball bat steering lock - ? Full tank petrol - worth rm80 R3 umbrella - worth rm65
i have to search through so many post to find above post. bro, you book from PE or dealer? so many freebies, worth more than rm300
QUOTE(fulat @ May 22 2012, 10:20 AM)
huh.... thats a bit scary. so which mean the key in the alarms are mainly for you to lock/unlock the car door only. huh.....
wat? RM2k for a car remote? huh..... guess i will think about it. as some of u complaint. a reverse camera is lacking. i already asked my SA to find out the price of installing 1 from the factory before delivery. will update how much it gonna cost me here later.
about the safety car features which check your car's part before allow to start. anyone of u all faced it before? i heard to tow car to the nearest services center is all covered within the 5 years from proton. anyone can confirm that?
i want to know the price too the reverse camera
oh btw, there is a bosch sc in kl right? as the HU is bosch, can get installation of reverse camera there ka?
which one u wanna know? the second spare remote or the reverse camera. nope... i checked that out with SA and called iCare. any add on to engine, electronic device and light cabling by not authorised personel will void the 5 years warranty.
so either the simple diy using 12v batt, or get it done at proton sc
Why don't get the one used in Exora Bold, where the screen is in the rear view mirror?
that even better, now need to find out the price and whether preve rear view mirror compatible. proton should just publish on their website, easier for us to check add-ons for preve.
well.... i have seen remote CCTV for a warehouse. boss wanna save cost installing remote cctv in the warehouse. he bought the cheapest 3G call phone. he then stick the 3G camera to all the corner he wanna monitor and set it to auto pickup 3G called within 3 Ring.
so for warrant not void reverse camera. u can do the same thing like him. get a cheap 3G phone and stick it rear of the car and call the phone when u doing reverse. :-p
lol, that is just not workable for car lar.
that boss really creative, but then have to everytime charge the phone. and the visual should be not that crisp and clear lor.
i did a project on remote cctv before, long term wise, he should install a full scale advance cctv. well of coz depends on what he stores there lar.
This post has been edited by stargate8: May 22 2012, 11:35 AM
Got a quotation from Proton COE for spare key, around RM5XX. The service advisor asked me to wait until a lot more car sold, the price should be lower.
so if more exora bold sold, the reverse camera also will be cheaper? hmm dont think so. unless they got promotion
why not? doing that u no need to do any wiring and void ya warranty. oh... the tow car parts. i will see them tonight and will sure gonna get this info before i put my deposit in... update here tonight
I missed close to 40 pages...so I'm gonna skip reading everything. Guys, as fun as it was to hang out with you guys here, I'm afraid that the percentage of me getting the car has dropped. Just don't feel it anymore man. If I do get this car in the end, it will be the last proton I will ever buy. Specs for the car sound good - the delivery and service however...got not much to say there. I'll be around still. Haven't lost all hope for the car...yet. Just that I really lost the want for the car already. You guys can go ahead and remove me from the FB group - don't think I'll be active regarding the car anymore. Fenom, you can still PM me if you need any help regarding the thing we discussed on PM. Dares, Dhuang, whitelighter, Ben, V12, stargate, dinwaja, torres, valence-kor, izputra, maverick and all you other guys not mentioned here, it was great while it lasted. Very special thanks to mat79 for all the info he shared. Alas, I lost faith in the company. I'll be around. Just not as active anymore. *waves* See ya around
The best way to do is not to pay the d/p until the car is at the showroom. When you have paid the deposit and HP loan has been signed and chassis no has also been allocated, no need to worry.
Ask them to speed up the necessary process(K1 JPJ, Insurance, Road tax, plate no etc.) for them to get the d/p.
ya. no car no dp.
otherwise once they got ur dp before handover your car, can't imagine what will happen.
May 18 2012, 01:13 PM
It seems they have rectified a few issues in the 2nd batch production and I am not sure what else they rectified as I cant get inside the car to looksie. 
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