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post Oct 14 2012, 05:19 PM

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I run into this thread, and I would say your experiences will probably dissuade lots of lay person from buying a Asus laptop tongue.gif
However I also sense that a lot of you actually like the Asus design / pricing, and will embrace Asus again should its warranty services get back to "reasonable" level whistling.gif

There were some interesting ideas, i.e. facebook, complaint with Taiwan HQ ... Generally I don't think this will be effective.
To get thing moving, you need to publicise it. Example: the Foxconn labour issue. It has been there for a long time, but by having major news agency carrying the news by linking it with Apple iPhone, that's a stroke of campaign genius.

My suggestion:
Hit it where it will hurt. Asus laptops are being reviewed all over the internet. Most of the time, there are rated quite favourably. A lot of potential buyers all over the world read these reviews.
What you need to do is to consistent post on the user forum of these review site, to highlight your issue smile.gif
Some of the review site I could think off: notebookcheck, notebookreview, anandtech, tomshardware ... I believe you could come up with many more.

Organise: You could split up and assign a site to maybe 2 or 3 victims here.
Action: Post a comment on user forum, whenever a new model of Asus laptop is being reviewed. There should be plenty of opportunities.
Objective: Paint a doubt in potential buyers all over the world on Asus warranty services. That's it. Just "doubt".
Duration: Execute this plan consistently over a period of say 1 year. You could review the effectiveness from time to time, by sharing the number / type / general response from readers from these sites.
Message: Be consistent, Be rational, Be factual, Don't be angry, Don't hyper-bole. My suggestion is that the 1st post is a standard draft. You just copy and paste smile.gif

Feel free to amend the below draft. Just come up with something that you are comfortable with:

"We would like to share our bad experiences dealing with Asus warranty services in Malaysia.
Examples include:
Asus service centre take more than xxx months to repair xxx.
Asus take more than xxx years to refund .... (Quote concrete examples) ...
(Post links to threads).

This type of bad warranty services has been on-going for xxx years, with numerious complaints posted to Asus Malaysia, Asus Taiwan HQ ...., Asus is just paying lip service and giving empty promise, and there has been no improvement in service level at all over the years.
Our expression of grievance on Asus facebook (and other social media) site, on the other hand, has always been deleted with utmost diligence and urgency.

Buyer Bewares and Good Luck."

Oh, I am not working in IT sector icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 14 2012, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 14 2012, 07:41 PM)
Thanks for sharing your inputs bro notworthy.gif

Not sure whether it will work or not (because the lousy warranty support is only true in Malaysia) but its worth shot...  icon_rolleyes.gif

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Good luck, and some of you need to start the ball rolling. Call yourselves "Save Asus Malaysia Alliance" maybe rolleyes.gif
Suppose I am a lay person anywhere in the world who don't deal with laptop or IT on daily basis. There is no way for me to know how good is Asus warranty service in my country, unless I go out and check and try to verify. Your message, if convey properly, will plant a doubt in their mind (an idea, like Inception the movie cool2.gif ). (In fact, this is just like me in real life)

Imagine this scenario:
Asus launch a new laptop. I saw it in somewhere, and I like the design. Before I buy, I decide to check some review. Every review site that I go, there is this group of people from a country called Malaysia who tell me these "horror" stories of Asus warranty services. My first reaction: "is this happening in my country as well?". Even if I later found from other sources telling me Asus warranty services is very good in my country, I will have a bit of doubt. Even if I later decide to buy Asus, I will probably remember these stories from Malaysia, and possibly bring it up somewhere later.

This will hurt Asus brand image. Be prepared, Asus will probably come out firing sweat.gif Stay your course, until they realise it is actually cheaper to give Malaysia good warranty services and make you get off their back whistling.gif
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post Dec 21 2012, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(ELinawa @ Dec 20 2012, 11:17 PM)
I only read all the comment up to 12th pages only, my eyes get blurry already and my head just filled with negative thoughts about Asus only..

just one question.
are other form of device fromm Asus (like phone, mobo, ect) will go to the same Service Center?
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Mobo, yes sweat.gif
Phone, who bought Asus phone? who? laugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 21 2012, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Dec 21 2012, 10:10 AM)
i dont buy ASUS phones but does that mean good luck to the peoples who bought ASUS phones?
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Do you mean those PadPhone? Then, yes, baby, yes sweat.gif
The thing about Asus services is, it really depends on spare part stocks, replace set availability, and a huge does of divine intervention laugh.gif
I don't think Asus sell feature (non-smart) phone like Nokia???
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post Feb 8 2013, 06:30 AM

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QUOTE(mccy118 @ Feb 8 2013, 12:45 AM)
My optical drive just rosak today =/ should I go and claim warranty or just ignore and buy external dvdrw since I scare my laptop once go then will never come back to me sleep.gif
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Optical drive should be fine. If SC don't have parts, you can ask them to just take it out and return the laptop to you (a good SC will put a dummy caddy in place to prevent foreign objects getting into the laptop), and when they get parts, you just bring the laptop to them again to put it back in.
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post Feb 8 2013, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(mccy118 @ Feb 8 2013, 02:37 PM)
ohh ok, since my area don't have SC so i was wandering whether they will mail over the part to their retailer and replace it for me though. Since my uni going to start soon and this is the only laptop I have sad.gif
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Go back to the re-seller who sold the unit to you. The process is the same. The caveat is that the re-seller may not have the dummy caddy hmm.gif
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post Feb 8 2013, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(aldrickgoh @ Feb 8 2013, 02:44 PM)
4 Days ago I went to Low Yat Plaza ASUS ROYAL CLUB MALAYSIA service center. My laptop heatsink fan was old n slow in rpm. So I went to the service center for a heatsink replacement which they said will cost mt RM150.
My laptop was working great just a bit hot.
When I pass to the counter. The technician checked everything, display, HDD, RAM ...everything good.He said should be ready in a week.
After a few days, they call me saying my Mainboard got burn, no display and I have to pay rm500 more. That thing is in your hand. Yous company should bear responsible with it. WTF is this a scandal ???

And this is what they reply me :

Dear Sir,

Sorry to inform that if you only change Fan and the unit won’t be able to function normally. Sorry to let you know that technical part inside unit as we cannot predict when it will spoilt . Sorry about the inconvenience caused. Thanks.
So is there anyone I can contact to resolve my case?
p/s the warranty expire 2 month ago.
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Don't think you should take this. You sent in your laptop for service in working condition, and has the service docket (you do right?) to prove it.
Get Asus SC to replace the MB.
Your best bet is to personally talk to the higher up in the SC. Also air your grievance in Asus FB page (most likely will get deleted tongue.gif ).
Last resort: small claim court tongue.gif
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post Feb 11 2013, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(vNirvana @ Feb 11 2013, 01:07 AM)
I dont understand why Asus after sales service is so terrible..

Besides, Low Yat Plaza ASUS ROYAL CLUB MALAYSIA service center, is there other Asus authorized service centre in malaysia ?
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http://support.asus.com/servicecenter.aspx?SLanguage=en
Check here for all the Asus SC location smile.gif
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post Feb 13 2013, 07:36 AM

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QUOTE(zat_90s @ Feb 13 2013, 04:48 AM)
actually asus CPU accesories have less issue... just their portable devices such as notebook n tablet usually have problem and need repair..
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Actually this is applicable to all the laptop brands smile.gif
If you mean components meant for desktop that you can buy off the shelf, the component is simpler (than laptop as a whole which involvees many parts), and can be serviced or (1 to 1) replaced more easily smile.gif
Laptops are more fragile (since the parts have to be shrinked in size to fit into tight space) than desktop components.

Just FYI, according to 1 study, the best "build quality" laptop brand has a 3 year failure rate of > 15% (that mean for 3 out of 20 laptops, within 3 years, the laptops from that brand will experience some type of hardware failure). For brands that come in worse in the study, the figure go as high as 25% sweat.gif

So warranty support is important in buying decision.

http://www.squaretrade.com/htm/pdf/SquareT...bility_1109.pdf
Here is the link to the study for you to find out which brand has the lowest failure rate laugh.gif
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post Feb 16 2013, 06:06 PM

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^ At this rate, better be everyday laugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 23 2013, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(farkingdom @ Feb 23 2013, 03:13 PM)
Sent my laptop to repair due to defects in several components earlier this month. After two weeks wait, I've got a call saying that the repair is done. When I got there, they told me they only repaired one component (keyboard) while ignoring the rest.
They told me the reason was that I upgraded to Windows 8. And he even told me that my warranty might be voided because of upgrading to Windows 8.

Then why the heck did they say "Asus recommends Windows 8" at their website right next to my laptop? I told them this and they said they only "recommend". They went to the website driver section of my N series notebook and told me there were no Windows 8 list in their supported driver download. Hence, Windows 8 is not supported, yet.
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That guy BS you big time sweat.gif Hardware warranty is never void due to user software / OS usage. Ask him to show black & white where in the warranty terms and conditions that changing OS void hardware warranty.
Driver is 1 matter, hardware warranty is another.
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post Feb 24 2013, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(farkingdom @ Feb 24 2013, 07:47 AM)
He said there are no drivers to install for Windows 8 to test if the components are really broken. So they gave up immediately upon seeing my OS which is Windows 8. I asked them doesn't Windows 8 has backward compabilities, they said drivers are different.
I did ask them to show me the terms and condition, and he pointed out 'third party software'. I argued with him that Microsoft product is third party? I bought Windows 8 using my own money.
Then he said they will only repair if I flash it with the original Windows 7 back with all the drivers intact. What????? Now I have to go through all the trouble to flash it back, when obviously many components are already broken when I'm using Windows 7. They said I don't have proof.  mad.gif
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More BS from the technician (I hope he/she don't call him/herself that, bring disgrace to the profession sweat.gif )

Yes, W8 may have different drivers. But Asus has released lots of drivers for W8. Please check here to see if your model has them (if your laptop is still under warranty, then it should not be too old, my bet is Asus already release drivers) :
http://support.asus.com/download/options.aspx?SLanguage=en

"Third party software" - Then according to his/her interpretation, all OS are 3rd party softwares since Asus never produce any OS laugh.gif

I think you need to talk to other "technician" or demand to see the "manager". This is getting ridiculous sweat.gif
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post Feb 25 2013, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(rezarazu @ Feb 25 2013, 01:22 PM)
pliz don't buy asus laptop.. seriously.. sooo lembab for replacing parts eventhou u claim for RMA.. my lappy asus ultrabook S56CM, bought on dec 2012, on late jan 2013 already kaput.. no display.. sent to asus lowyat sc on 05/02/2013, until today 25/02/2013 still pending parts (mobo).. adoyyy.. my boss bising edy, coz he gave me cash to buy new lappy especially for me due to got new big project need to be done, but now d new lappy rosak edy.. now everyday my boss bising2 at me.. if i know this thing will happen i will not buy this shitty asus lappy, & use my company's compaq presario v3000 series.. never rosak at all, need to change due to can't support my daily tasks which more to graphic design.. or buy other brand.. sh*t lahhhh!!!  vmad.gif  mad.gif
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Sorry to hear your dilemma sweat.gif I think the best you can do now is to keep calling SC.
For business purpose, stick with Dell. On site next business day warranty support. Extend to 3 years warranty for ~ RM300+/-. Best peace of mind for anyone who spend BOSS's money laugh.gif
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post Feb 25 2013, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(Dbassnut @ Feb 25 2013, 03:08 PM)
"we currently not bringing them in"
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I don't think this is fair to criticise the Asus Malaysia customer service on this tongue.gif
The most likely explanation is that the Customer Service handling the email don't know. Customer Service don't know because the Product guy don't tell them / don't want to tell them / also don't know / waiting for stocks to clear before launching new model ... laugh.gif
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post Mar 1 2013, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Dbassnut @ Mar 1 2013, 11:50 AM)
Actually, their reply to my question on when they will be bringing in the TB equipped laptops was
"we will not be bringing them in"

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If you are very keen on Thunderbolt, just be a little bit patience smile.gif Haswell is going to support Thurderbolt natively, so I suspect more high end laptop models launch later this year with Haswell will come with Thunderbolt as standard.
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QUOTE(Dbassnut @ Mar 1 2013, 12:12 PM)
actually its not so much a thunderbolt issue than a customer service issue. My big worry is that if I do buy an Asus & there is a problem, the Customer Service isn't too helpful.
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Well, if you are in Malaysia, and you are someone who appreciate good customer service, you should not think about Asus at all laugh.gif (well unless you live in JB, in which case you could bring your laptop to SG for service smile.gif )
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^ HDD is such a common component (all models use the same dimension / form factor), you should get it in 1 day, not weeks doh.gif

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QUOTE(androidfans @ Mar 20 2013, 01:50 AM)
you mean they can simply put in any hdd if they like ? no need follow procedure ?
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All HDD in the world are manufactured by 3 brands: Seagate, Western Digital, Toshiba.
All the HDD in laptops has the same form factor (same shape (height, length, width)).

I don't know what procedure Asus Malaysia SC has to follow, but it definitely won't take me 2 weeks to change a HDD at home laugh.gif

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QUOTE(finger6 @ Mar 23 2013, 02:20 PM)
This is 1 of the thing that i can't get. Since the Manager also didn't have the self-discipline , how he gonna handle their technician???? Forgot to mention that 1 of the stuff are wearing slipper. OMG!!!!Where is the reputation??? Seems that Asus Royal Club are worst then the Pakistani in Low Yat.....

Ray... Forgot about those Tai Chi... Forgot about Asus..... Go for other brand... I don't want my case happen to any of the member here....
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Buddy, mind to share which SC you sent to? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(androidfans @ Mar 23 2013, 05:33 PM)
so, you think Manufacturer such as Asus, Dell , Lenovo will buy retail hdd to replace in for customer ? other then Seagate, wd, and toshiba, thats some OEM hardisk manufacturer such as Samsung, Hitachi ok ? shakehead.gif  usually if no oem hdd in their stock , they will order from Asus taiwan, it will take 3~7 days for whole process, and you sure is really takes 2 week ?  biggrin.gif some end user like exaggerate their situation so would other think they are right in every aspect
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Please check your fact on HDD manufacturers smile.gif
Those 3 brands account for > 90% of HDD production in the world smile.gif (You are in lala land thinking Samsung and Hitachi still produce HDD. Sold their HDD business already smile.gif )
Asus definitely does not produce HDD.
And there is no HDD manufacturer in Taiwan anymore smile.gif (The supply chain of HDD is a complicated business, but the final assembly (manufacture) of HDD is concentrated in a few countries in Asia: Thailand (that's why when Thailand flooded, HDD price jumped all over the world), China, Malaysia .... )

In fact, this is a challenge to you: Show me a HDD manufactured in Year 2013 (a picture will do) that is not from those 3 brands. Otherwise, stop the crap, will you? smile.gif

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