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 ►+♠+-LYN Proton Persona Owners Club V.XXX9-+♠+◄, Persona: The Definition of Handling

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post May 17 2012, 01:36 PM

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Yes, and CoSE tell me to do all my service there otherwise they couldn't help when there's engine issue.
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post May 17 2012, 06:21 PM

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Got my car back from CoSE. They bleed the brake to fix the krok sound.
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post May 18 2012, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(Vort3X @ May 18 2012, 01:10 AM)
So did they solve the problem?
My brakes also making the same sound. But mine is disc brake.
Until now I'm not even sure its considered a problem or not(the sound). Opinions anyone?
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Yes, problem solved.

No idea how air went into the system. I'm not sure whether they replaced the fluid or reuse.
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post May 18 2012, 11:04 AM

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Anyone technical with engine parameters specifically fuel trim? What is the STFT and LTFT that is considered as normal?
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post May 18 2012, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ May 18 2012, 12:30 PM)
For PE the STFT value shouldn't exceed more than 10% give or take, unless you've modified the fuel injectors. As for LTFT, it shouldn't be more than 5%. 0 at idle.
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I think I can use this to tune my NGV's ECU. It is currently >10% under load.
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post May 20 2012, 06:23 PM

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Got the road name of EA? I want to go there and put some strut bar. biggrin.gif
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post May 21 2012, 10:14 AM

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I have unusual fuel trims as reported by ECU, it's giving me headache.

Petrol operation:
STFT Bank 1: -50%
LTFT Bank 1: 0%
Observation: STFT will return to 0% when throttle is lifted. STFT returns to normal values of 0% to 2% at specific RPM ~1.5k. STFT is -50% at 99% of the time. Injector/vacuum leak?

Gas operation:
STFT Bank 1: 7% to 30%
LTFT Bank 1: 0.8%
Observation: Maybe caused by improper tuning (?)

Am I having a vacuum or injector leak? My concern is the petrol mode STFT.

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post May 21 2012, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ May 21 2012, 11:15 AM)
Might be a vacuum leak or improper o2sensor plugging. Did the NGV dudes mess with your AFR? -50% is very very high.
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They didn't mess with any sensor or original ECU. AFR is still unaffected at 14.71:1. But fuel trim is gone.

I don't remember well whether was it like this already before the NGV conversion, I have a feeling the STFT is behaving like that all the while. Do you know what's the correct procedure to troubleshoot? I heard some said smoke test for vacuum leak.
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post May 21 2012, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ May 21 2012, 11:48 AM)
If you said that the STFT behaves like that all the time even before conversion, have you then felt any irregularities in the power delivery all this while? Like sudden power loss, reduced throttle response, no power at all at certain rpms?
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Actually no. Even now with -50% STFT, the throttle response is fine.
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post May 21 2012, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ May 21 2012, 11:56 AM)
Does Ur device shows STFT2 & LTFT2 readings as well? It is very hard to explain then why is it at -50%.. -50% would give you almost no power at all.
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4 cylinder engine has STFT2?
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post May 23 2012, 08:46 AM

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This Friday anyone want TT? I'd like to use diagnose other PE cars to check your fuel trim behaviors. Free engine diagnostics tongue.gif
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post May 23 2012, 09:57 AM

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TT at SS15 Asia Cafe this Friday night. Anyone interested?
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post May 23 2012, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(K.Lee @ May 23 2012, 10:32 AM)
Wah... very good spot, and crowded nia sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ May 23 2012, 10:34 AM)
Very near my place. OK.
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Looks good. Then we tentatively set Friday 8PM onwards at Asia Cafe?
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post May 23 2012, 12:13 PM

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I'm thinking to use this lube next round. But no API Standard specification? What I can see is very low sulphated ash content. http://www.mymesra.com.my/?ch=mm_2011&pg=p...pl=2011_article

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post May 23 2012, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ May 23 2012, 02:44 PM)
You're installing yourself?
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post May 23 2012, 02:49 PM

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I'm interested but do we need to remove existing rubber? Do we still have space for such rubber?
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post May 23 2012, 02:58 PM

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When are you going to install? If I join your purchase, help me stick also tongue.gif
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post May 23 2012, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ May 23 2012, 03:03 PM)
Stick will be easy only. but must clean the contact place before stick lo


Added on May 23, 2012, 3:03 pm
Stick will be easy only. but must clean the contact place before stick lo
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My door panel all very clean. I polish and wax the door as well tongue.gif

Just in case rain went in and dirt the surface, I can prepare cloth and polish/wax too tongue.gif

How much is the cost for persona?

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post May 23 2012, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ May 23 2012, 03:23 PM)
shocking.gif Inside door also you wax and polish? Because that will be the place which will stick the seal.
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Yes I do. After waxing, those water drop stain will be easier to remove.
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post May 23 2012, 08:39 PM

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xandras, have you observed your fuel trim on the move?

I need to find the datasheet of the ECU. To me, it seems that -50.0% would mean fuel trim unobserved/inactive. Every time I try to upset the fuel trim by accelerating, it returns to 0% and few seconds later, it became -50.0%.

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