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 ►+♠+-LYN Proton Persona Owners Club V.XXX9-+♠+◄, Persona: The Definition of Handling

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shelby_yong
post May 10 2012, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ May 10 2012, 10:36 AM)
if i plan to buy car now n yet wif ard 80k budget, i will go for inspira 1.8MT straight. preve not even in my consideration... mitsubishi wanna be... whistling.gif
come... let us all cut Q in front of preve when we c 1 on d road... tongue.gif
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but ah..
when preve in S mode...
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hard to cut queue..
the car come alive...instance add 1k rpm when in sport mode
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post May 10 2012, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ May 10 2012, 10:38 AM)
but ah..
when preve in S mode...
hehe...
hard to cut queue..
the car come alive...instance add 1k rpm when in sport mode
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Thats why I say, if we try normal drive in FC concious way, everyone will jump queue in front of Preve. If in S mode, add 1K rpm, what happen to the FC....

In the world where everyday drivers are generally going for FC concious type of cars ie hybrid, city, vios all going towards green driving....what is Preve...add power, FC how ar...

This post has been edited by Cavino: May 10 2012, 10:57 AM
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post May 10 2012, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ May 10 2012, 10:26 AM)
I tot someone say Preve below 2K rpm cannot move much??? That means pickup should only come after nearing mid range speed ie. 70-80 km/h onwards. Is that true? If it is, then in jam prone city road, preve mati liao, FC gonna go sky high, either that or let everyone jump queue in front of preve....
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Yup,below 2k is sluggish.tats why need use s mode and press hard to hit 2k rpm above..and d paddle shift for me is useless.wil auto upshift once hit 5.5k rpm.inspira more better
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QUOTE(Cavino @ May 10 2012, 10:56 AM)
Thats why I say, if we try normal drive in FC concious way, everyone will jump queue in front of Preve. If in S mode, add 1K rpm, what happen to the FC....

In the world where everyday drivers are generally going for FC concious type of cars ie hybrid, city, vios all going towards green driving....what is Preve...add power, FC how ar...
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confirm ++ lo...

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post May 10 2012, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ May 10 2012, 11:01 AM)
Yup,below 2k is sluggish.tats why need use s mode and press hard to hit 2k rpm above..and d paddle shift for me is useless.wil auto upshift once hit 5.5k rpm.inspira more better
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That means the CFE still has the critical weakness of earlier Campro engine, lack of low end torque no matter how much they improve on mid-end to high end. Its mid-end was already improve via IAFM before CFE comes in. CFE improves it way stronger BUT it did not address its critical low end traffic jam retarded weakness that that has proven to be a bane for everyday driver that try to save FC, seeing that the fuel ceiling price will not stay there forever. Global market are moving towards FC concious trend and yet the GLOBAL car proton make still does not address what the global market demand.

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post May 10 2012, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ May 10 2012, 10:38 AM)
but ah..
when preve in S mode...
hehe...
hard to cut queue..
the car come alive...instance add 1k rpm when in sport mode
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thn i will slow down n let d preve kena smoke kao kao... wanna save my petrol tongue.gif
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post May 10 2012, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ May 10 2012, 11:10 AM)
That means the CFE still has the critical weakness of earlier Campro engine, lack of low end torque no matter how much they improve on mid-end to high end. Its mid-end was already improve via IAFM before CFE comes in. CFE improves it way stronger BUT it did not address its critical low end traffic jam retarded weakness that that has proven to be a bane for everyday driver that try to save FC, seeing that the fuel ceiling price will not stay there forever. Global market are moving towards FC concious trend and yet the GLOBAL car proton make still does not address what the global market demand.
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That's not true, considering the Exora Bold CFE does not exhibit this behaviour at the low ends.

Some Preve owners have reported much improvement on the low end RPM after the SC tinkered with their ECU, so the consensus right now is that it is because the ECU was tuned this way initially, for what reason, only Proton and god knows.

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post May 10 2012, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ May 10 2012, 11:15 AM)
That's not true, considering the Exora Bold CFE does not exhibit this behaviour at the low ends.

Some Preve owners have reported much improvement on the low end RPM after the SC tinkered with their ECU, so the consensus right now is that it is because the ECU was tuned this way initially, for what reason, only Proton and god knows.
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Like that as usual, wait for mid-life FL where most faults should be corrected and improve if ever think of replacing PE.

Haiz, my City reaching 7th year next year, in prime condition now with smooth silent engine and no fault with CVT. However its better to sell while its still going strong with higher value rather than later. Wonder what car to get at sub or 100K range? Insight, maybe?

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post May 10 2012, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ May 10 2012, 11:19 AM)
Like that as usual, wait for mid-life FL where most faults should be corrected and improve if ever think of replacing PE.
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This I agree. thumbup.gif
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hi..
last 2 weeks, i did the 10k service at the SC. after picking up the car, i noticed that the air cond is not as cold as b4. felt like more 'wind' feel rather than the normal 'air cond' feel. yes, i did check the a/c mode at the a/c knob. nothing wrong there.

yes, it felt like the a/c gas is somehow insufficient. i mean, come on, it's mileage is only 10k! the gas should still be a lot.

yes, i can go to sc again, but i dont think it's covered by warranty for a/c gas...might as well do it at outside workshop..

just wanna ask you guys, is there any other reason why the a/c is not as cool as b4? it only happen right after i serviced the car at sc.
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QUOTE(fatani @ May 10 2012, 12:09 PM)
hi..
last 2 weeks, i did the 10k service at the SC. after picking up the car, i noticed that the air cond is not as cold as b4. felt like more 'wind' feel rather than the normal 'air cond' feel. yes, i did check the a/c mode at the a/c knob. nothing wrong there.

yes, it felt like the a/c gas is somehow insufficient. i mean, come on, it's mileage is only 10k! the gas should still be a lot.

yes, i can go to sc again, but i dont think it's covered by warranty for a/c gas...might as well do it at outside workshop..

just wanna ask you guys, is there any other reason why the a/c is not as cool as b4? it only happen right after i serviced the car at sc.
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check for leaks,,,

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QUOTE(fatani @ May 10 2012, 12:09 PM)
hi..
last 2 weeks, i did the 10k service at the SC. after picking up the car, i noticed that the air cond is not as cold as b4. felt like more 'wind' feel rather than the normal 'air cond' feel. yes, i did check the a/c mode at the a/c knob. nothing wrong there.

yes, it felt like the a/c gas is somehow insufficient. i mean, come on, it's mileage is only 10k! the gas should still be a lot.

yes, i can go to sc again, but i dont think it's covered by warranty for a/c gas...might as well do it at outside workshop..

just wanna ask you guys, is there any other reason why the a/c is not as cool as b4? it only happen right after i serviced the car at sc.
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go bac to d SC... tell them bout it... cz it happen aftr d service ma
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need to apply annual leave for that bro. they dont do warranty services on saturday. so that's why im trying to opt for options, and seems like the only option is outside workshoplah. and i still think if i go to the sc to rectify the a/c problems, they will still charge me..
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post May 10 2012, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(fatani @ May 10 2012, 12:54 PM)
need to apply annual leave for that bro. they dont do warranty services on saturday. so that's why im trying to opt for options, and seems like the only option is outside workshoplah. and i still think if i go to the sc to rectify the a/c problems, they will still charge me..
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10K servicing does not touch air cond. So you should claim under warranty. If there is not enuf gas, at least they will check for leaks. At most you have to pay for the gas.

Personally, I would suggest dropping by outside aircond serciving shop, ask them to check if your air cond enuf gas or not. If not enuf, just pay to refill, cheap cheap only RM15 to RM30. If suspected leak, either pay a minimal amt (ask first) to check. If no leak, ok, if got leak, then apply leave go SC. Either that, or drive for sometime, if air cond not cold again, go to SC straight coz definitely leaking. Normally gas can last at least a year or 2 or maybe even 3 depending on usage.

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QUOTE(K.Lee @ May 10 2012, 12:19 AM)
dapat super power apa?
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Sailormoon power. Wear skirt when transform

QUOTE(xandras @ May 10 2012, 01:00 AM)
Got 1.2 Million pounds to spend? An environmental friendly person? Behold, Fahraddi Farfalla.



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Dafuq? Wing= fly? Last time got ppl do 911 also
Can ask k.lee to buy laugh.gif

QUOTE(Cavino @ May 10 2012, 11:19 AM)
Like that as usual, wait for mid-life FL where most faults should be corrected and improve if ever think of replacing PE.

Haiz, my City reaching 7th year next year, in prime condition now with smooth silent engine and no fault with CVT. However its better to sell while its still going strong with higher value rather than later. Wonder what car to get at sub or 100K range? Insight, maybe?
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I rike cr-z smile.gif
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post May 10 2012, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(zapdos9 @ May 10 2012, 04:23 PM)
Sailormoon power. Wear skirt when transform
Dafuq? Wing= fly? Last time got ppl do 911 also
Can ask k.lee to buy laugh.gif
I rike cr-z smile.gif
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CR-Z is practically a 2 seater car...only meant really for a car enthusiast, not everyday man...
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post May 10 2012, 05:05 PM

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jz nw asked my fren d regarding d brake issue.
he went to trendpoint 6 times to fix brake issue. end up change 3 times brake pads n prob not yet solve. nt sure wad prob. end up they refer d matter to CoSE n prob solved...
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QUOTE(zapdos9 @ May 10 2012, 04:23 PM)
Sailormoon power. Wear skirt when transform
Dafuq? Wing= fly? Last time got ppl do 911 also
Can ask k.lee to buy laugh.gif
I rike cr-z smile.gif
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Nah... I want mtb..
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QUOTE(Cavino @ May 10 2012, 04:25 PM)
CR-Z is practically a 2 seater car...only meant really for a car enthusiast, not everyday man...
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Hmm... Prius?
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My car has spent 4 days at CoSE. Still unable to fix the suspension.

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