To all the pros out there I need an advice on a mid range car. Budget is around RM150k +-
The mentioned mid range is something like in the class of Honda Civic, Toyota Altis & my prefered choice is Volkswagen Jetta. Actually I prefers Passat(B7) year 2011 that offers 10% discount but it's sold out. The 2012 models don't offers any discount. Jetta still a considerable choice as it's 2011 made cars offers 10%.

ANY SALESMAN THAT'S READING THIS & GOT A 2011 PASSAT(B7) PLS PM. I'LL FLY OVER TO CLOSE THE DEAL.(WEST MALAYSIA ONLY)

Jetta:
The part that concerns me are the maintenance of the car. If fuel(monthly) & road tax(annually) is more is just +- RM100.00 then it's not much to compare about. It's just a small bite that won't be feel much.

The part that got me into thinking about it is the servicing part. Lubricant, gear oil & things that's not much talked about might come out with a OUCH!!! when paying the bill. Jetta offers 5 years warranty & surely it gotto goes to their official workshop. Also it's a twincharged car. I've never owned something like that. Servicing it would cost more?

That car is only 1.4CC. Underpower..? From what I've came to known it's technology...
1.4CC = 2.4CC of a non twin charged car. That's what the salesman told me.
Personally the talks of a salesman is called sales talk, the kind the just wants U to buy something from em.

Also I don't sees much of Jetta on the road. Any reason for it? Price is an issue for some? Yea... It's something that's in between & not many would goes for it. Mostly would just goes for Camry & Accord within that price range. Worth to pay the extras for the new technology.

As for me I'm looking at Volkswagen is offering AFFORDABLE TECHNOLOGY. Correct me if 'm wrong, there's not much of twincharge cars at these price range.

Jetta owners pls advice on this...

Civic & Altis:
It's just another normal car. From the starts of my 1st car till now there's nothing too special about it. Just that it's interior that might be better abit...

Final:
The feels of it when speeding... Weight & power gotto be balance. Weight is not what we sees on the paper only. When moving there's downforce, aerodynamics & for some it would be called stability.
At the highway which of these 3 would be better?

This post has been edited by khoodennis: May 7 2012, 02:55 PM

i'd go for jetta anytime. the reason u rarely seen it on the road because it's a new car compared to altis & civic.
yep the salesman is right. just look at the jetta 1.4tsi spec sheet..u'll see the power is comparable with 2.4 n/a engine.in fact u will get better torque range 240nm from 1500-4500rpm. small engine means cheaper roadtax too.
plus jetta got rear aircond vent which civic & altis dont have.
the only downside is no leather seat for jetta. but maybe got optional package.
cheers.

Thanks... I've been asking around & it's high recommended. Gonna get it for sure

plus jetta have 5 year no limit mileage warranty...

this is a huge bonus for it

Jetta bro, TSI engine with DSG gearbox, if I'm not mistaken it's a 7 speed too. Plus it's a German car. Performance for 1.4 TSI engine is amazing, test drive to believe.

Only thing missing is the bi-xenon headlamps and DRL.

It's miles better than civic or altis.

how come we are getting a very mundane version+
looked over our singapore neighbour their version jetta is really good looking. muscular.

was thinking about it but price is quite steep so i went for the all new civic

german tech that is assembled in mexico rite?

honda only 3 yrs warranty
vw 5 yrs.
Before the vw warranty over u trade in and get other cars

VW is way more cool than T and H

Not sure if 100% of the Jetta's sold in Malaysia are assembled in Mexico. I don't work as a Volkswagen sales assistant.

Have to check the VIN number.

This post has been edited by speedbird90: May 7 2012, 11:27 PM

Bro, no need to choose here already... Jetta for sure. It wins hand down among the three..
I own a white teana 2.5 v6 and white jetta. The jetta got lots of torque to play with. But if u prefer more space, luxury or comfort, pls dont choose jetta as it has limited leg room space at the rear passenger seat.
It is a performance car. Its 1.4 tsi engine got excellent pickup much better than my another 2.5 v6

The (old) Civic is supposed to handle rather well, but the Jetta was basically made for speeding (it's a German car, and since in Germany 130-140 is very common and many drive faster German cars are made for that).

In terms of safety the Jetta should be able to beat them all, unless the Japs are JDM.

Funny how the Jetta is considered a performance car. It is the sedan version of a small family hatchback. The German equivalent of a Toyota Vios. Just, well, more modern, safer. Of course Malaysia only gets the rather powerful engine.

I'd probably go for the Jetta too.

At RM 143,888 (about RM17K cheaper than a Jetta), the Kia Optima K5 would be a better choice with better specs, better design and much bigger interior not to mention higher safety standards. Plus its a D segment car and it too comes with a 5 year unlimited mileage manufacturers warranty.

The Jetta has higher torque due to the twin turbo and a more advanced gearbox. But besides that, the Optima wins hands down. Quality & build quality has improved alot and after sales is also improving from what ive seen.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: May 8 2012, 08:14 AM

Dude I think u got it mixed up wit d Polo Sedan. Jetta is derived from a stretched platform of d Golf (Altis, Civic, Sylphy, Focus class). N not necessary hv to b JDM la, a standard 2.0 FD Civic or Lancer/Inspira 2.0 will reach tat speeds easy peasy.

If TS willing to go left-field a bit, I'm all d way wit d Jetta. Superbly finished n was speechless by built quality when had a seat in it. N wit tat rear air con its simply a class on its own.

Did u know that the Jetta didn't fare too well in the American National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) safety analisis for 2012?

It only got an overall 4 Star rating with frontal and rollover impact being its biggest flaws with 4 star ratings. The Optima K5 on the other hand received 5 star ratings in all 3 frontal, side and rollover impact analysis. Even the mighty BMW 5 Series only got a 4 star rating for frontal impact with the rest being 5 star. The 2012 Honda Civic got an overall 5 Star rating which is higher than the Jetta.


This post has been edited by cybermaster98: May 8 2012, 08:14 AM

1.4cc is very small..considering the kancil is 660cc

not all cars in malaysia are the same as those overseas..
unless it's an import..local assembled cars are roughly 70% the same as an import version..
regarding safety... just drive safe and be aware of ur surroundings cause even if we drive safe, other people are reckless or perhaps unintentional accidents would occur..

Ure obviously from the older generation of ppl who associate engine capacity with power. The Jetta's 1.4TSI is a twin turbo engine with 158Hp and 240Nm torque. It beats most of the 2 liter D segment Japs e.g Camry, Accord and Teana in terms of power. Not to mention its more advanced 7 speed DSG gearbox. But all that comes with a price and at approx RM160K (OTR), it isnt cheap.

My choice would still be the Kia Optima K5 at only RM143,888 (OTR). It is slighty more powerful than comparable Jap models with 163Hp & 198Nm torque but with excellent specs, design and interior space.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: May 8 2012, 08:45 AM

i dont fecking care about the specs. read carefully what i've written there

hahahahahahahahahahaha

If it's performance & handling, the Jetta is the better option based on the choices you have listed ... But then if the budget is slightly higher, you can get the fully imported from Germany Golf 1.4TSi which drives better than the Jetta (at the cost of sacrificing space). If its space and handling, I agree with cybermaster98 that the K5 is a viable choice (sacrificing power vs the Jetta). In terms of maintenance, the Jetta is every 15,000km or 1 yr whereas Civic is every 5k so it works out to be similar. Bang for buck, I won't consider Altis and Civic unless it's resale value you're after

I did and ive responded. U claimed the 1.4 is small which is a major oversight on your part. The bits about specs is an add on.

you still dont get what i'm implying.

It must be the twin fan.

twin turbo =/= twin charged ... get it right buddy

1.4, 1400, 660.

Jetta 1.4 is a twincharged engine.. supercharged + turbocharged .. not twin turbo

aiyoh! Ericmaxman refering to 1.4 CC where it should be 1.4 Liter. Right?

Anywho, fuel consumption aside, anyone here experience the difference between small displacement vs big in terms of long distance driving?

yes the 1.4 L has nice power and torque but how would it feel driving for 2 hours or so compared to the 2.0L + ?

Hv to agree tat K5 n Sonata YF makes more features/$$ paid. But apart from styling n price, I kinda find d coupe like rear a bit obstructive for entry if u often carry ppl in d back. Another thingy bout both Koreans is tat d cabin is more 'snug' than airy compared to d Jetta. Of course it depends on TS priorities.

Now i did. Sorry!

There's pros and cons on Jetta. The pros being that it is a continental car and you can expect a good NVH from it. Also the DSG gearbox is superb. If compared to Optima K5, the latter offers alot more gadgets that you can play with. Sunroof/moonroof, paddle shift, keyless system, Infinity sound system and not forgetting all the safety features it offers and larger space for rear passenger and huge boot size, with the jetta at around RM 10k more pricier. If you don't like gadgets and prefer good NVH, then go for jetta. If you want more value for the price you pay, then you should consider Optima K5

The Jetta is about 17K more (OTR) with insurance. Many ppl get confused between poor NVH and tyre noise. In the Optima's case, alot of the noise actually comes from the noisy stock Nexen tyres. But also keep in mind that 18 inch rims with low profile tyres are surely more noisy than smaller sized rims & tyres.

In saying this, i think the NVH on the Optima is quite good. Almost comparable with the class leading NVH Nissan Teana.

All in all, im still enjoying all the attention im getting at makan shops & traffic light stops. So far ive had 3 strangers come forward to ask about the car. Must mean something i guess eh?

Refer to the topic... I will prefer Jetta.. Why? EURO car. Better performance , FC better due to 1.4TSI. .. Branded , design newer than civic and altis..

My comment.

jetta looks cheap. just my opinion.

I can't believe a kia was even considered an option or recommended by people here..

Do also bear in mind VW cars only need to be service every 15,000KM, compared to the rest which is usually every 5,000KM.

It is a 1.4 TSI, which is a twincharger. Beat the crap out of most 2.0L cars. It should also be more economical in terms on FC, as most of the torque is available very early on at the rev range, which is around 2,000 t0 4,000 RPM.

If it is compared between a K5 and a Jetta, i would take a Jetta in a heartbeat. It may not have as much gadget as a K5, the DSG gearbox and the twincharger more than makes up for it.

End of the day, you will be sitting in it to drive, not to press button and play with gadgets. That how i see it anyway, a more torquey drive is always more enjoyable.



This post has been edited by Madgeiser: May 8 2012, 04:03 PM

Do elaborate please

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Added on May 8, 2012, 5:43 pmMost of the Jap and Korean cars using fully synthetic oil are serviced every 10,000km not 5,000.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: May 8 2012, 05:43 PM

i would prefer the jetta but i think it is more accurate to compare jetta to civic and altis eventhough the optima k5 is within that price range.

jetta design is simpler and i think the outlook is more "conservative" but the interior is classy and solid.

i think the 1.4 twincharged engine is more than enough for the car. Can always go for a test drive.

comparing in terms of?
driving dynamics, nothing come close jetta...
i've driven the jetta extensively over a weekend and sad to say, altis, optima, forte, koup, slyphy is no where near what the jetta chassis can do... it is very well composed even during mid corner correction...

highway cruise (150-160 km/h) is very well comfortable... the chassis just soak up the road imperfections but u will hear the tyres rolling noise... not loud but its there...

features wise is a hit and miss as there is alot of choices now for this range of car...
dont worry about maintenance as there is plenty of people that you can ask before you send your car in for service...
the key word here is to know exactly what need to be serviced and what dont... and u can keep your bill down


the TCU on the jetta is slightly diff from the Golf TSI (i think) as you can feel the creep with this jetta as compared to the golf TSI where it literally stay still even in D and the brakes are depressed...
very good in stop and go traffic (exactly like the normal torque converter based transmission)


dont let the 1400kg weigh fool u... it felt much lighter then that once u get behind the wheels....

P/S - if u are comparing outlooks, the jetta is just a plain girl next door where as the optima is girl with make-up, push up and deep v-necks..... if u get what i mean

The Optima is more than looks. Spec wise no other D segment model in that price range matches. It may not have top class handling compared to more refined brands like VW but the fact that ppl consider the Optima as direct competition to the VW is statement enough on the improvements that Kia has made.

that is why i ask comparing in terms of what?

btw handling is more then just corner baring

this line is convincing enough, thanks

then what is a Passat?

If people consider K5(D) as competition to Jetta(D), then it just shows that people perceive Kia as a class below. It's akin to people comparing Preve © vs Vios/City (B). Btw, Jetta's subdued looks but superb performance makes it a perfect "sleeper" car. Substance over form.

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Added on May 8, 2012, 8:00 pmSorry, it should've been substance over style :)

This post has been edited by azfamy: May 8 2012, 08:00 PM

All the 3 cars, gadget wise they are all quite basic. But when it comes to engine and gearbox, jetta is so far ahead. Given the choice ill definitely pick the jetta. Ample amount of torque at low revs is very practical especially going uphill. It's so much more relaxing and you don't have to stress the engine by revving hard. Coupled with the dsg gearbox, overtaking is actually quite fun. Gun the throttle and watch the cars behind disappear into the distance

Aiya most Malaysians will say German cars are the best without thinking twice, actually not always correct.
If we have a big heart and "extend" our view to oversea market say US, car to car comparison was always fair without looking at the "brand" or country of origin. That's why Hyundai Elantra can beat Jetta, Focus, Civic, Altis, etc in Motor Trend review Tell this to ah beng Malaysia they will say : "Cannot be la, how can Korean beat German, American, and japanese? Sure boh?"

Undeniable, Jetta is powerful. 1.4 TSI can beat all those so called 2.0 jap car. Unfortunately, the trimming inside is crap. Sit inside a Golf then move to Jetta. Look at the back passenger sit light knob. No DRL is kinda turn off for this car.

US gets "different" Jetta. Torsion beam, mostly NA engines & poorer cabin materials e.g. hard plastics dashboard. That's why american reviewers score them poorly. We instead get the Euro Jetta, an almost equivalent to the US Jetta GLI. The GLI gets good reviews in the US. In any case, Ah Bengs wouldn't be interested in Jettas bcoz "it looks boring". But I do agree SD overvalued the Jetta. Should be priced way cheaper than the Golf.

carbuyer video is normally what i view to get realistic review and critics about any car



even it is a VW car..finishing not so great..and looks like a 90s car..dun put expectation too high lah..just a so-so car
my opinion only

we in malaysia get the 160PS 1.4TSI engine for Jetta, in UK US they got loads of different engines, many diesels in the UK, and big cc petrols in US

+1

Read my statement again. I said competition to VW not Jetta in particular. The Optima was brought up as it was in the same price bracket. But if ure only comparing the 3 models above, then the Jetta is a clear choice.

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Added on May 9, 2012, 7:47 amI didnt say that corner baring was the only way to test handling did i? But since we're on the topic, why dont u educate the rest of us on how to test handling on normal city terrain during test drives?

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: May 9 2012, 07:48 AM

I am the VW Jetta owner.

Jetta is the right choice, before i bought it , i have booked a toyota prius hybrid, after my friend recommented to me, i change the order.

Performance : Really good, power is standby in anytime and backup you.
Gearbox : you can't feel the gear have turn from N to D1 or S1 (There have auto mode and sport mode, and +/- mode too), really smooth.
Soundproof : I can't hear any sound of wind blow when i am driving 200km/h
Feeling : You never try any japanese car after u drive this Germany car, because they give u different feel.
Warranty : 5 years with no limit mileage

Don't go to buy the korean car because i just sold my Sangyong Rexton, too bad.

I have booking the leather seat, next week will change it in RM2,200/-.

tested my fren's jetta, it is superb in term of handling and performance, and no doubt, i would have gotten it instead of my 2008 fd2. Other than that, the cabin material and design arent as good as fd2. FC for jetta is excellent too. Fren told me ard 12cents/km on ron95 for his daily commute from shah alam to sg buloh via nkve

i understand ur frust on previous rexton, but i think we shudnt blindly ban any item/brand/country of origin just simply...like that. Last time samsung handphone was crap, now smartphone/tv leader.

Bro, are u sure bo u did't hear any wind noise when cruising at 200km/h
I think Benz or BMW also don't have this kind of good soundproof leh
I tested jetta before and the wind noise started coming in around 120km/h.

Moreover, the DSG gearbox is not as smooth as everyone claimed, it tends to has some jerking when shifting from d1-d2 due to its dual clutch design and also quite famous with it's mechatronic failure issue but I think now they are providing update of sofware for the gearbox to smoother the jerking issue.

Beside the above issues, VW still consider a very good car in terms of value for money

Btw, I think nowadays Korean cars have better reliability, quality, value for money and also resale value compared to those days old generation Korean cars

Yup, carbuyer.uk has the most realistic reviews, lol. I always like the water bottle test.

Korean car is crap
Dont regret after buying oh.. dunno why in the picture


Please go test drive a jetta
Should be able to tapau bmw

even BMW F12/F13??

Here's one version of the Jetta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4G51NN2oFY

The new DSG does not have the jerking issue no more.. it has improved and its a better drive. All you need to do is go back to the SC and ask them to update the software. All done.

Korean cars are like Korean girls, pretty but some of them are fakes. German cars are like the girl next door, not very pretty but cute enough to give you a boner.

Anyways it is up to you on what you want to have. Pretty girls or girl next door... i am more of a girl next door person so I own a Jetta.

Jetta for sure, it is very powerful. Love it when i drove my friend's car to ipoh recently. Accord,camry all go one side.

Optima/Sonata is a truly big lorry. Really no power like my old waja *vomit blood*

I prefer Korean girls to German "Helga"....

lol. You don't know how hot and kinky German girls can be Korean girls just seem to be cute.

So what has TS decided?

please do some research on the VW 1.4TSI engine before you decide. In some countries, this engine has some severe overheating issues. Old jetta is definitely a concern.

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Added on October 13, 2012, 11:48 amAgree, cute and will look into the mirror or iPhone camera all day long.

This post has been edited by pcychen72: Oct 13 2012, 11:48 AM

hi, can tell us abt the Rexton?

Which is the new DSG? care to enlighten...

Software update is done, and after that all I notice is a slight delay in gearbox response and jerkiness is still there.. is just the nature of the DSG

yeap, owning a car is same like owning a house. Reliability and total cost of ownership is important. Try to find out the cost of the VW battery.... as compare to T&H.

Turbocharge give u power, performance but lack of reliability and high FC. Especially now AES, no point for turbocharge. Give you more summon = lost of $.

Rather spend more time with family to have a reliable car than a car always go to service center with bad SC service and need to wait the parts for weeks or months......no peace of mind and fast = more summon and not safe.


The new civic now comes in 5 years unlimited warranty with 10,000 interval service with ECO mode. HID light and 17" rim, 4 airbag. Spec wise not too bad some more the styling very mature and sporty also. Modern design and can last very long. Not like conti when see more , will get bored. No offence ya, purely own opinion and sharing only.

Just sharing.
Choice is in your hand.

This post has been edited by pjkl: Oct 15 2012, 10:33 PM

bro.. i think you are still living in dinosaur age...

due to European and US mile stone to increase mile per gallon and reducing CO2 emission, auto makers are down sizing their engine and putting in force induction (turbo) for fuel efficiency...

i have just replaced my polo tsi (2011) with the new civic. some feedback from me.

The polo is a more solid car then the civic..when it rains you will not feel like you are in a milo tin.
the polo's engine is so sweet..the tsi is just so fun to drive.
the DSG is fast and efficient. (i could get 520km for rm70)
reliability on the polo..soso. had issues with mechatronic, dashbord sound and wiper/signal wiring (all solved)
VW service centre is very good..efficient and friendly..all my issues were solved immediately and professionally.

so why did i change?...i needed a bigger car..

This post has been edited by Glau: Oct 18 2012, 09:20 AM

hahah dinosaur age...

if want to save fuel, then can use hybrid and more environmental friendly.
each car has pro and con. Just that individual choice. But when you see on the road beside local car, more people choose T&H, surely that is reason. If 1 people choose wrong, cannot be 10000 people choose wrong.

No offence ya, just sharing....

Doesn't change the fact that Europeans buy hybrids much lesser than they buy diesels instead. Also, in China, VW holds a much larger share of the automotive market there compared to Toyota, Honda and Nissan while the market leader is held by GM (American).

So if we base what is popular in Asia, that means those brands are the better cars to get?

to understand why ppl choosing diesel in Europe.. u have to understand their tax structure btwn Diesel car and Petrol car sir...

hehe, that is in China, we are here in Malaysia, cannot compare oh ! Whatever successful in overseas does not mean applicable to our context. No point how good at outside but when come to here, not. What is the point pay so high price to get trouble in case....

Just dunno lah... many ppl sharing that got many problems, scary. For me rather choose those spare parts easily can find and get rather than to wait from overseas or Europe for weeks.... Again, rather spend time with family than in SC.

Reputation, reliability and the whole eco system, need time to build that is what T&H did here. That's sure got a reason why people choose T&H, local car here.

No offense ya. Sharing...

This post has been edited by pjkl: Oct 18 2012, 12:50 PM

true... my polo already 1 year 2months. Being switching cars often. But each time i drive the polo, it really gives me a whole new feel of driving.

Power needed, recently i was on par with a speeding Accord coming from behind. Problem is the turbo lag... sometimes its really bad but u must know how to control the rpm then it should be fine.

Each time i send for service, they will do product updates. Recently done turbo heating update. Mechatronic software update....

Becareful with the polo. I have a polo tsi too. The gearbox is very very sensitive. Yes its a joy to drive but this car needs constant software updates . And yes i did have that juddering on my gearbox before i did the update.

Its a great car, but its kinda small.

German cars are good to drive but if u like to mod ur cars, then the choices are very limited and mostly damn expensive.

Like recently wanted to chg my polo wiper to piaa silicon ones. Guess what, costs around rm350 for the blardy wiper! Wanna change rim oso headache cuz polo using some special size rim size which alot of shop dont have stock.

So in the long run, japs are much more easier to maintain and parts are plenty.

This post has been edited by kevin23: Oct 18 2012, 04:33 PM

by far i know alot of owners do not have problem with the DSG or any issue with gearbox.. Some quite teruk which gear cannot even change.

Waiting for my new german toy

Thr are lotsa problems especially polo tsi 1.2 and golf 1.4 tsi. Its basically juddering of the gearbox. Thegolf gti doesnt hv this problem. I have a golf gti too. No juddering so far.

But atthe end of the day, Put aside those gearbox problems, VW are blardy good cars!

This post has been edited by kevin23: Oct 18 2012, 04:59 PM

yup. that is why reliability is playing important parts beside the "joy" to drive. You will enjoy driving but on the other hand give you headache to deal with lack of SC and waiting period for parts to arrive to solve the problem. Imagine no car to use, difficult and troublesome to go to work, cannot meet client, lost customer, lost $ to repair, expensive spare parts etc...
Owning a car is medium term and need to take into consideration a lot of factors not just joy to drive only. That is just 1 part of the factor. Not pin point anyone or what, just sharing... the facts
Check and make the informed decision.

Most of them does provide replacement car to compensate. For Vw if u sent for warranty, can choose to take cab they will pay for it. Well t&c does apply, but they do provide this

i m not emphasizing on which has better fuel efficiency, i m just against your remark that turbocharged engine is much more fuel consuming..

Jetta la. Ppl consider Jetta a luxury car. U will be seen as a more higher class compared to if u drive civic, altis or k5.

that red part is different class ok

compare apple with apple please....

hybrid is more fuel efficient if you are stuck in the jam/stop-go conditions...
cruising wise, the car's FC is pretty much the same as any normal gasoline cars...

it ain't that simple bro...
i can vouch for that

The moment you owned a TC car, you will never go back to NA. TC is just good engineering.

It depends on cases. NA always are proven and easy to maintain. No point to speed and risk life and make family worry. Now a lot of AES and camera, waste $.
The curve got Civic road to open up eye...

No offence to any1

who says TC is for speeding... is good pick up and drive at whatever speed you wan...
wake up.. you can drive slow with a TC car and you also can speed with NA engine... who say those driving NA cars wont speed?

this is human age... dinasour age long gone bro... what you know about turbo is so yesterday..

This post has been edited by twincharger07: Oct 20 2012, 11:42 PM

Because people still thought turbo that can be found on those JDM big cc sports car.

now most of the manufacturer use low inertia turbo, to let the turbo kick in at lower rpm, so that we can get maximum torque of the engine as soon as possible. So that the engine is less stressful in pulling the car across the distance.

Lol to TC=more summons. I have more summons on my saga blm than my TC car. It depends on your foot, not the car engine. Even kancil can get summons easily if u dont discipline your right foot.

right foot on cars, and the right wrist on kap chais.

Both my cars are TC, whether petrol or diesel.

0 to speed limit in a much quicker time, don't need to go over speed limit to enjoy cars, people!!

TS, jetta is a class upper ler, i have a civic. If i had the $$ i wont hesitate to get the jetta.

jetta offer discount 7k rebate.

15k km only per service = regular 5k & 10k km for japanese car

power? dun believe then test drive it.

altis / civic not really good quality built compare with jetta

how much VW charge to service Jetta??

Probably around RM 400 for regular service. Every 15k.

Jetta and Civic same class, though the Jetta should be better than the downgraded Malaysian Civic.

about 600+ for 15k km interval

should be ok since is 3 times more mileages + time saving.