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post Sep 17 2012, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Sep 17 2012, 08:15 AM)
i love this pic :
1970 singapore. btw it look like one of the street in penang 2012
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Singapura would have been the New York/Hong Kong/Dubai of Malaysia if Tunku had not kick SG out of MY....

Main reasons why Malaysians have had a deep sense of insecurity when Singapura is concern was because she was an integral part of the country until when the Malayan Union failed to include it.
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post Sep 17 2012, 08:43 PM

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Many wouldn't agree on this..but is true to a fact...chinese are smart people and tough people...they adapt to the environment rather than having to make the environment adapt to them. As simple as that.

That's why Singapore and China now are regarded as the top countries in Asia.
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post Sep 17 2012, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(Omochao @ Sep 17 2012, 08:43 PM)
Many wouldn't agree on this..but is true to a fact...chinese are smart people and tough people...they adapt to the environment rather than having to make the environment adapt to them. As simple as that.

That's why Singapore and China now are regarded as the top countries in Asia.
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They are cunning and always help among each other race.
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post Sep 17 2012, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(z928328 @ Sep 17 2012, 08:53 PM)
They are cunning and always help among each other race.
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Really??? any proofs or source to back up your claims?? and even if they do, their own nation flourishes, how so?
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post Sep 17 2012, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(Omochao @ Sep 17 2012, 08:54 PM)
Really??? any proofs or source to back up your claims?? and even if they do, their own nation flourishes, how so?
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zz why you need to ask for source of that?

just say why you disagree
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post Sep 17 2012, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(Renekton @ Sep 17 2012, 09:00 PM)
zz why you need to ask for source of that?

just say why you disagree
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cuz his statement sounded so bias and hatred towards others....while mine was based on general perception and view.
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MAJULAH SINGAPURA!!!
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QUOTE(Omochao @ Sep 17 2012, 08:43 PM)
Many wouldn't agree on this..but is true to a fact...chinese are smart people and tough people...they adapt to the environment rather than having to make the environment adapt to them. As simple as that.

That's why Singapore and China now are regarded as the top countries in Asia.
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errrr....wads so great abt chinese anyway?

the fact that they are yellow?
the fact they can eat anything?
the fact that their love for money?
the fact that they less likely to dont believe in god?
that there are more than 1 billion of them and one of the largest languages in the world?


chinese chauvinists are just as bad as malay ultras. rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 17 2012, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(rendezvouss @ Sep 17 2012, 08:18 PM)
Singapura would have been the New York/Hong Kong/Dubai of Malaysia if Tunku had not kick SG out of MY....

Main reasons why Malaysians have had a deep sense of insecurity when Singapura is concern was because she was an integral part of the country until when the Malayan Union failed to include it.
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this would be joke of my day .... typical loser, blame others for self incompetent .

This post has been edited by SonnyCooL: Sep 17 2012, 11:00 PM
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post Sep 17 2012, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(Omochao @ Sep 17 2012, 08:43 PM)
Many wouldn't agree on this..but is true to a fact...chinese are smart people and tough people...they adapt to the environment rather than having to make the environment adapt to them. As simple as that.

That's why Singapore and China now are regarded as the top countries in Asia.
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Yes they are smart and tough. the adapt well to the environment. only to the country or people they think they can't challenge. I am not being racist or anything, but its hard to see chinese people to speak Chinese in public in Australia or USA or Britain or any of the western countries. But malaysia? Singapore? Brunei? No way u see people dont do that. not often anyway. they rather speak non BM. Even Indian speak better BM. I mean fluently. Y do we have alot of chinese school? y not go to public school? wats wrong with it? coz alot of malay there and they are incompatible with the chinese? coz they dont teach chinese? coz they r less better than public school? I doubt that. I often asked that question.
Now do they have a chinese school in Australia? Britain? USA? And tell me one country beside Singapore, that is not originally a chinese land and now dominated by a chinese races and who's leader is from a chinese races and the chinese language is widely used.
Y is Singapore in that category, coz the chinese are smart and tough. But environment have to adapt to them. not they adapt to the environment.

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QUOTE(aimanida @ Sep 17 2012, 06:20 AM)
.... Not sure if half of Singaporean even know to sing their national anthem.
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You sound more bias than anything, its the same with malaysians, all locals sing the anthem since primary school days till they secondary school, Pre-U, Polytechnics have their own National education program. Every one of us learn it from young. If you tell me we are in hte 70-80s, I definitely agree with you. But we are in the 21 century.,,,, this kind of statement ... very backdated my friends when every one has move on but you are somewhat in the old minds


QUOTE(aimanida @ Sep 17 2012, 06:20 AM)
Singapore is rich in the first place is because of its strategic location and the size of the country. From there, they slowly build their economy. Their port is their starting point since they dont have any natural resources.

Well, that's wat i got from my Malaysia Law class in Uni. Some how it got side track to how Singapore got separated from Malaysia. And my prof was a thai national. lol.
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Not sure what gave you that impresion that SG was already rich in the 1st place. Yes, they benefited from the port being developed when Raffles arrived, but it does not mean they are rich. Whose is rich? The ANG MO who developed the place but the island was sufferring from joblessness despite heavily relying on port trading. When LKY took over the country, didn't you realise why LKY wanted Singapore to be as part of Malaysia because he didn't think SG can survive with nothing to produce. Given its small size, whatever it could produce were limited. Tell me how rich can SG be? Then after the merger kana kicked out. So I am skeptical about what you said.
The country with GDP much lower than Malaysia. Perhaps you should have read some of the other poist here regarding GDP and you will kknow whether SG was rich or not?

You need people who are the daredevil, believe and doer of their talk, make whatever succeed in order to survive
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SG had adequate infrastructure in 1960's, but you have to remember it is only a city and it had serious issue on how to sustain its economy when the British decided pull its military base east of Suez canal (which includes SG).

SG had nothing to produce, almost nothing. Infact MY developed Port Swettenham (now Port Klang) to sidestep SG.
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What i dont understand is why Sabah and Sarawak remains poor, despite bordering with Brunei, and also bless with abundance of oil deposit. Why? rclxms.gif
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post Sep 18 2012, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(bbmars @ Sep 18 2012, 12:16 AM)
You sound more bias than anything,  its the same with malaysians, all locals sing the anthem since primary school days till they secondary school, Pre-U, Polytechnics have their own National education program.  Every one of us learn it from young.  If you tell me we are in hte 70-80s, I definitely agree with you.  But we are in the 21 century.,,,, this kind of statement ... very backdated my friends when every one has move on but you are somewhat in the old minds

Not sure what gave you that impresion that SG was already rich in the 1st place.  Yes, they benefited from the port being developed when Raffles arrived, but it does not mean they are rich.  Whose is rich?  The ANG MO who developed the place but the island was sufferring from joblessness despite heavily relying on port trading.  When LKY took over the country, didn't you realise why LKY wanted Singapore to be as part of Malaysia because he didn't think SG can survive with nothing to produce. Given its small size, whatever it could produce were limited.  Tell me how rich can SG be?  Then after the merger kana kicked out.  So I am skeptical about what you said.
The country with GDP  much lower than Malaysia.  Perhaps you should have read some of the other poist here regarding GDP and you will kknow whether SG was rich or not?

You need people who are the daredevil, believe and doer of their talk, make whatever succeed in order to survive
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You misunderstood. I am saying they started rich. I am say they are richer than any other ASEAN countries now coz of their port. I am saying they got to start of from something. They start small and what they have. I admit, Singapore did a pretty good job to be what it is now. But got to look at the factors and history.
But all this economy, GDP mumbo jambo stuff does not make Singapore a better country to live in. Not for me at least.
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post Sep 18 2012, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(aimanida @ Sep 18 2012, 02:22 AM)
You misunderstood. I am saying they started rich. I am say they are richer than any other ASEAN countries now coz of their port. I am saying they got to start of from something. They start small and what they have. I admit, Singapore did a pretty good job to be what it is now. But got to look at the factors and history.
But all this economy, GDP mumbo jambo stuff does not make Singapore a better country to live in. Not for me at least.
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obviously is not suit you .... base on ur short statement, how many "i am" been use, basically no place will suit u without listening to u , . . . .
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coz our malaysia gov busy spotting LBGT?
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post Sep 18 2012, 11:09 AM

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Priority. that's the only thing that differentiate the 3rd world and 1st world. as i see it, Malaysia does not know how to prioritize.
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QUOTE(z928328 @ Sep 17 2012, 08:53 PM)
They are cunning and always help among each other race.
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like the jews..

but better than slaughtering each other like in syria,libya.. keke
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QUOTE(aimanida @ Sep 18 2012, 02:22 AM)
You misunderstood. I am saying they started rich. I am say they are richer than any other ASEAN countries now coz of their port. I am saying they got to start of from something. They start small and what they have. I admit, Singapore did a pretty good job to be what it is now. But got to look at the factors and history.
But all this economy, GDP mumbo jambo stuff does not make Singapore a better country to live in. Not for me at least.
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i tot melaka is the main important port since 1400 hmm.gif

now? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(blizzard29 @ Sep 17 2012, 11:52 PM)
I think what makes Chinese "great" in the sense they are usually successful economically is that most Chinese have a culture of commerce(it is part of the reason why they came to SEA after all) and really prioritize education.
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thank you. this is the answer that is more reasonable and less likely to cause tensions. icon_rolleyes.gif

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