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post May 5 2012, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(ogiveyakuza @ May 5 2012, 06:37 PM)
ni la die ifag, skit2 fragmentation...ntah fhm ke x psl fragmentation pun x tau la...

nah amik, bce...bia bukak skit mate tu...

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Not-every-p...ntation_id28354
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this article does not make any sense at all. fragmentation which caused apps incompatibility is one of the 3 top problems affecting android today.

of course, it affects mostly early adopters and ppl who use their phone too long.

am not going to argue abt this since it is a problem not specific to s3 alone but android as a whole.

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QUOTE(Hico @ May 5 2012, 07:41 PM)
definitely agree  nod.gif ...comparing htc and samsung, sure got some point win and lose..why need bash till like their phone is God.. sometime reading those bashing statement really funny..example, phone not even in their hand, already can say samsung hang here hang there..and how great their launcher is...not even try and test how much improvement on the new touchwiz then how u so confident all the new function is useless? saying samsung copy other, why don say everyone is copying among each other? i don mind they copy the function and improve to make the phone more 'complete' ...do they really wan something like "why samsung have this function they don have?" or "why they have it but samsung don  have?" if saying copying, which manufacturer is not copying? which manufacturer is not learning from others and make it even better and outstanding? i don see there is anything wrong with this..at least they are using the new technology and improving...rather than do nth...  doh.gif the sale will show everything..not the argument in the forum only..  no matter how good the phone they take it, if the sale is poor, that manufacturer soon or later also close door..  shakehead.gif really childish to bash in thread... don like the phone, just don read it and leave..simple  whistling.gif
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u r being oversensitive. nobody has bashed s3. merely writing down our opinions.
as for me, i'm just saying the design is fugly. everybody taste is different, if u think it is great, then u r entitled to ur own opinion.

same like the screen and the plastic material.

let's all act like mature thinking ok. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Hico @ May 5 2012, 07:50 PM)
i don even mention u.. i said abt last few days bashing la... why u need to admit urself..  shakehead.gif  hmm.gif and i have to admit i seldom read s3 thread anymore since those argument happened in the thread.. so i don pin point to specify ppl only..
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Did not mention it was me. Bcos I definitely know it is wrong to bash.
I was just giving examples that opinions are welcomed but pointless bashing is a waste of everybody time.
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QUOTE(Hico @ May 5 2012, 08:01 PM)
i am giving my opinion too.. i agree bashing is really wasting the time and space here.. nod.gif i also agree the design of s3 is not attractive.. but ugly or pretty, everyone's preference is different.. some ppl may think it is fine..some may say ugly so don wan to buy.. some ppl say think design is not important..feature is the main point to look at.. so let other to decide.. like i say, if this time, s3 is selling poor..samsung will review themselves to avoid nokia's steps.. and for us as the final users, u don like it, then don buy and dun see..i think this is more mature thinking..  thumbup.gif
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That's the function of a forum or group discussion. So that we can hear abt others opinion before forming our own judgement. And after we shld also share our opinion so that others may comment on it.

In this way, the knowledge bank is increase.

In forum, we shld refrain from personal attacks on each other but focus on the topic.

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post May 5 2012, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ May 5 2012, 08:10 PM)
tell u guys sumthg tongue.gif when HOX first release the most fan to bash that phone is from XPS brows.gif
now after sgs 3 release, they turn their back against it as well.

shall i say we have common enemy tongue.gif ?
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What is XSP? Why we need to have enemies? Isn't life complicated enough to add enemies? We shld add more frens!
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ May 5 2012, 08:13 PM)
What is there to discuss as the blardy phone still haven't release into market yet. Want to discuss on how it looks.? Everybody have their own preference hence what you like doesn't means everybody else have the same opinion.
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As u can see, the discussions are based on the launch event and pictures available on the Internet.
Nothing wrong wt that right?

Of course, thgs may change between now until the day it is landed in Malaysia.


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QUOTE(gin&tonic @ May 5 2012, 09:07 PM)
By having removable battery & external SD card is a big plus for me.
Hate to run out of batt juice when in need.
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if thgs go wrong during flashing, a battery pull is still possible. no need to wait until juice run out. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ May 5 2012, 03:45 PM)
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Hmm, not what I had expected. Ur finger also cannot reach diagonally. Still 2 hand operation required.

Anyway, nowadays the trend is big screen.
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post May 6 2012, 12:14 PM

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quite an enlightening & balanced article. samsung is really getting arrogant. unfortunately they are depending on google for the base software.

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We had planned to do this writeup yesterday, but everything felt too fresh. The Samsung Galaxy S III announcement created a tidal wave of news and we didn't want to just post a knee-jerk analysis of what had been announced, because there was quite a lot of information unpacked at Samsung's London event. The thing is that it didn't all hit solidly.

The disappointments

Of course, we have to keep in mind that the expectations were pretty high for the Galaxy S III announcement, and carriers had tried to mitigate those expectations to a certain extent, even saying that "It'll be like the iPhone 4S was to the 4," which turned out to be the most prophetic information we ever saw during the rumor rampage, even though it may have slipped through the cracks. As far as the hardware, this is definitely much more of an incremental update, which is a bit disappointing, but probably what we should have expected.

Sure, the international version will have a quad-core processor, but that really just sounds good on paper, because in the actual benchmarks that we saw, the dual-core Snapdragon that is expected to be in the US version (and currently in the HTC One X) posted pretty close numbers on Quadrant and actually beat out the quad-core Exynos on a few tests. The screen is essentially the same as that we've seen on the Galaxy Nexus, with the same PenTile matrix, just .2" larger (and without on-screen buttons, which will add even more usable space.) Aside from those two features, all of the other additions are software. And, in the software we get to the usual array of gimmicks and good ideas.

Before we get to the gimmicks though, we want to note one overall disappointment with the Galaxy S III announcement: Samsung almost completely avoided the fact that this is an Android device. Everything in the presentation was made out to be an amazing feature that is only available on this Samsung device. We understand that's how marketing works, but it's still annoying. S Voice leverages the power of the Android voice command service, but adds value in natural language recognition. The Galaxy S III camera has zero shutter lag, but that is a feature of Android 4.0, not that phone. S Beam is simply Android Beam with the addition of WiFi Direct for larger file transfer (admittedly Samsung did at least mention Android Beam on that one.) And, we're pretty sure that Smart Stay wouldn't have been as easy to implement without the built-in facial recognition of Android 4.0.

All we're saying is credit where it's due. Samsung has built quite an empire on Android, so it would be nice to see a bit more appreciation. We won't even get into how TouchWiz completely hides the UI improvements of Android 4.0, because that's a general disappointment with manufacturer UIs, and not one specific to Samsung. Anyway, on to the gimmicks!

The gimmicks

Let's not fool ourselves, every successful matured platform around has its share of gimmicks, which we define as features that make you say "wow", but don't really add a lot as far as function or usability. If you're showing off what your phone can do, you'll probably use these "features", and they will be the same things that will get you to drop down money in a store, but they don't really help your day to day life all that much.

Apple has FaceTime and Siri, both of which seem cool, but either aren't used all that much (FaceTime) or have limited benefits when the feature works (Siri). Google brought in Face Unlock to be its gimmick/cool feature of Ice Cream Sandwich. HTC has its blinged out Sense UI. And with the Galaxy S III, Samsung jumped on the gimmick train full force, and showed its own hypocrisy a bit.

The trouble is that Samsung uses every chance it gets to put down Apple, and even takes shots at Apple followers, but the truth is that Samsung would love nothing more than to be Apple and have that kind of devoted following. And, while Samsung did come up with some novel and innovative ideas with the Galaxy S III, the first feature talked about was S Voice, which is the worst kind of gimmick, because it's really just trying to be better than the Apple version, which doesn't work all that well in the first place.

Think about it, when S Voice was shown off in the announcement, as well as in our hands-on demo, there was a noticeable delay before it either launched the camera app or gave the weather. This is Android we're talking about, not iOS. You don't need to ask for the weather, you just need to look at your weather widget. And, what is the point of launching an app with your voice if it is faster to simply tap the app icon? The choice is either to start the voice recognition service, then say "I want to take a picture," at which point there will be a delay while the app figures out what you want and launches the camera, or just hit the home button and tap your camera icon.

This is the big issue with Samsung's presentation of S Voice. There is value in it, especially in initiating searches, dictating messages, or perhaps playing a specific song or video (none of which is special to S Voice, since Android has this functionality built-in,) but because Samsung wanted to highlight the natural language addition, the marketing took a hit. S Voice adds value to the stock Android voice command option by adding more natural language support, but in showing off the product, Samsung chose to perform two action that would have been faster without voice command. It would have been far better to say "Play Somebody That I Used to Know", and show how Android gives you the choice to play that through any of the apps available on your device like Spotify, Music, YouTube, etc. That is something that is faster to do via voice, and shows the power of this system over that of the competition, since Siri doesn't yet have those hooks (though Apple has said they will eventually exist).

The new Nature UX is also essentially a gimmick. It may very well make the phone more enjoyable to use, and it may make for an overall pleasant experience, but there is no real function behind it, which makes it a gimmick. Keep in mind here that not all gimmicks are bad things. Gimmicks can be delightful, but the problem is that gimmicks strive for delight rather than usability. However, not all the announcements were bad. Samsung also came out with some solid ideas that we'd love to see expanded through the mobile ecosystem.

The good ideas

The biggest difference between a great idea and a gimmick is that gimmicks are designed so you notice it, while truly great ideas may make your experience better without you ever realizing it. And, that is what Samsung hit with the introduction of Smart Stay. This is a feature that we've all wanted, but never even knew it until now. It is terribly annoying to be reading something or watching something and having to keep reminding the device that you're there by nudging the screen, so it won't go to sleep. So, to have your device be able to know when you're looking and when you aren't and control the screen accordingly is potentially an amazing feature. Obviously, we need to see Smart Stay in practice, but given the facial recognition already built-in to Android 4.0, it seems likely that this feature should work as promised. Additionally, auto-tagging friends in pictures with easy sharing from the gallery is another very good idea built on Android's facial recognition. That is another feature we expect to see more in other devices.

Direct Call is another idea that has a lot of potential, or at least the idea behind it has a lot of potential. Having devices anticipate what you want to do will be a big part of the evolution of smartphones from here on, and a lot of that will be tied to device gestures. We've gotten about as much as we can from touch gestures, now it's about context and how you move your device. Direct Call lets you call the person you're messaging simply by lifting the phone to your ear (and we're hoping this works in various apps like Google Voice, Gmail, Messaging, etc.) HTC added this into Sense a while back by making the ringer volume change whether the phone was placed screen up or down. So, what about the phone automatically launching the camera app if you lift the device into a picture taking position (landscape orientation at eye level, or portrait orientation pointed at the sky (for the ubiquitous "cleavage angle" the ladies love)). Or, your phone could automatically wake up and update various content or launch an app when you pick it up for the first time in the morning. The potential is very intriguing.

Of course wireless charging is also a great idea, but we've been waiting for that, and would have been somewhat disappointed had it not been part of the phone.

Conclusion

Overall, the Samsung Galaxy S III looks like a solid addition to the Android ecosystem. The disappointments were really nothing more than hoping for more than was reasonable, the gimmicks still have their uses or can be ignored fairly easily, and the additions are solid enough that the overall experience should be pretty positive. We like the evolution of TouchWiz, even if it buries the evolution of Android, because at least Samsung is aiming for adding moments of delight to what has been a fairly bland, if candy coated experience. S Voice will have its uses, and its drawbacks, just like every voice command system right now. And, the good ideas are good enough that they can subtly make the device much nicer than you'd expect on first glance.

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QUOTE(angel_jc8 @ May 6 2012, 02:13 PM)
asked some samsung guys at 1U...S3 coming around June/July.. price around RM2500..
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those guys simply ketok only. doubt they know what is different btwn s2g and s2 non-g.

wait for news. just wait. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Superman7 @ May 6 2012, 02:27 PM)
That's the cut throat price for people who can't wait for official release. It's always like that wan..  tongue.gif
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its early adopter price. with that money, u get bragging rights and then ohmy.gif
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how much is 32gb microsd nowadays?
really cannot brain the price dfference btwn 32 and 64gb.

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QUOTE(alfredtwl @ May 6 2012, 08:02 PM)
S3 available here on early of June ? Source from soyacincau.com  drool.gif
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It's common knowledge. It will be early June.
That's why note RRP was reduced recently to 1899.

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QUOTE(ken2291 @ May 6 2012, 10:51 PM)
I like the idea too.  They need to listen more in order to be more competitive smile.gif

Some news here, they're moving in the right direction
Samsung looking to acquire companies for better software – Android or its own?
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Hopefully they will have the sense to acquire HTC Sense software..

Wow, that wld be really somethg huh.
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QUOTE(djlah @ May 6 2012, 10:59 PM)
there will never happen but samsung can spanar their developer or designer  icon_idea.gif
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Samsung hardware expertise + HTC Sense finesse is the only solution that can challenge apple's dominance now.
Imagine Korea combine wt Taiwan against mighty USA.


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QUOTE(droid13579 @ May 6 2012, 11:01 PM)
Sense is too bloated and heavy, prefer light and improve version of touchwiz biggrin.gif

Swift and Snappy with Simple UI that's what people wants.
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Apparently that's what U want.

Software shld be full of features to enhance usefulness.

The reason why Sense is leggy bcos of inefficient android system.
Until google solves that, which is unlikely,
That's why SAMSENG hardware expertise will help speed up Sense.
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QUOTE(ken2291 @ May 6 2012, 11:06 PM)
That probably wont' happen biggrin.gif  Am I the only one who prefer Touchwiz??  Sense is a bit too bloated for me
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Touch wiz is quite useless.
Many ppl dump it straightaway.
Might as well use go launcher or launcher pro.
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QUOTE(droid13579 @ May 6 2012, 11:10 PM)
A Vote of TouchWiz biggrin.gif
But Someone prefer heavy loaded too pop-eye candy of sense  laugh.gif
Well, they will said 4 inch size is design for "Human size of hands" doh.gif
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Actually, I hope apple will not succumb to the large screen silliness. It's quite difficult to reach diagonal wt one hand operation on a screen more than 4 inch.
If u want large screen, shld just use the iPad.
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QUOTE(droid13579 @ May 6 2012, 11:14 PM)
E-mail to their designer then, don't just rant here I bet many alike of you had spam their inbox whistling.gif

also there are many phones out there with 4 inch sizes.

It's about choice, not everyone gonna suit your filthy needs.
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QUOTE(droid13579 @ May 6 2012, 11:18 PM)
The trend is changing, tides are arising, people want something portable and big which suits their needs.
Small screens tends to strain the eyes, which many people know.

That's why only sheeps will not realise about it, looking a teeny-winey screen and had to zoom in often biggrin.gif
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Yes, a larger screen will be easier on the eyes but at the expense of usability and battery life.
That's why apple came out wt the retina display so that even with smaller screens, text is still easily readable.

Luckily, SAMSENG also caught up with the technology and now s3 is offered with close to retina sharpness.
The highest sharpness screen is the Sony experia though.



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