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tkaira
post Apr 24 2012, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 24 2012, 06:34 PM)
2nd owner shud be tkaira coz he already get his car.. just need to do checking and sign acceptance form...
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haha sweat.gif dont marah me FenomX .. but at this rate maybe tomorrow evening..but if im not arround wait till friday la sad.gif
tkaira
post Apr 24 2012, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 24 2012, 06:42 PM)
tkaira one wont be out for at least 1-2 days more. somemore i believe he got mention friday... fenomX has ntg to worry abt tongue.gif
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sad la got brake problem doh.gif .. nevermind la..better be late than sorry
tkaira
post Apr 24 2012, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 24 2012, 06:45 PM)
after u hear the loud sound in ur engine bay.. u got bukak n see what fall off or not?
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surprisingly nothing fell or was missing or broke.. hmm.gif tomorrow i check with the SA
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post Apr 24 2012, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(Junn @ Apr 24 2012, 06:47 PM)
The documents given by RHB is a lot, I think it's consider loan agreement la

I also got my number plate, my chassis code, my engine code
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Then ull be 2nd la haha..can beat fenomX or not? icon_idea.gif
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post Apr 24 2012, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 24 2012, 06:48 PM)
hmm maybe the ABS unit punya sound?
fuuuuu.. means he got the car already. just waiting to register.. call him up to see the car before he register it...
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It was a loud thump..
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post Apr 24 2012, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(tkaira @ Apr 24 2012, 06:49 PM)
It was a loud thump..
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but ESP and TC thumbup.gif working well
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post Apr 24 2012, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 24 2012, 06:52 PM)
u drove savvy before or not? savvy also got a loud thump when the gearbox drop to gear 1
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owh really..never drove savvy before.. i was in s mode but not playing with the paddle shifters..so izzit normal then under hard braking then the car drop gear?

followed by aloud thump that is

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post Apr 24 2012, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 24 2012, 06:59 PM)
have u guys tried vw golf 1.4 tsi, 7 speed dsg. Maybe u guys shud try once a while, just for fun :-). And u will find the sluggish things appear in golf tsi, but not so much in polo tsi. But no seing anyone questioning how the heck they r doing the century timing then :-).

For tkaira, gud for u,thats why insist on test driving 1st. About the brakes feeling, (if not other related problem), a new brakes need burning in period,then it will performed 100%, and if the judder feeling only appear during hard brake,then its abs on work, if during slowly pressing the brakes, then,its need checking. About the loud sound, maybe the battery not tghten enough causing the movement hiiting the engine bay, but better check thoroughly though. The least thing was because of owners manual inside the glovebox hitting inside glovebox, causing the loud sound, but its really unique case.

Erm, dont u guys dont want to try 16 inch gunmetal alloy wheel tune by r3 couple with bridgestone adrenalin re002 tyres which available at bridgestone kl outlets. Just enter prtn website, r3 accessories, then look at exora, then look at the rims n tyres sets n where it is available.

About sound dampening other than preve, like saga, persona n etc, can try out vibramat that available at prtn branch sc, not auto dealer.

Not promoting, just informing. A lot of work tonite. Haishh.
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thanks mat79..ya i did some research (google tongue.gif) it seems its quite common on hard barking circumstances, owners like civic and jazz were also repotign same things when braking hard and people pointed out it was ABS doing its work.. so good la ABS,ESP and TC working well thumbup.gif though the SA did say he will ask the guys to check for it. anyway senawang 3S centre is really good in terms of service..for me at least
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post Apr 24 2012, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 24 2012, 07:06 PM)
which one? the judder or loud sound?

the judder during hard breaking is normal due to the ABS signalling u that its a work.
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It was more like a loud bang.. but toher users reported the same so i think its normal..cz brake really hard till ESP beep came
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post Apr 24 2012, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 24 2012, 07:13 PM)
Must be the reverse jet thrusters  thumbup.gif
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hahaha laugh.gif
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post Apr 24 2012, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(marquis @ Apr 24 2012, 07:15 PM)
My name, company backing. Apparently documents not enough. Haihhhh.
LOL. Yeah. Kasian FenomX.
I pray that you get your car first  rolleyes.gif
Wah. At this rate FenomX really butthurt liao laugh.gif

Me also actually. So many things to prepare! Grrr.
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If all goes well tomorrow get but ant post here.. im away..sister get to drive first cry.gif


Added on April 24, 2012, 7:43 pm
QUOTE(Az prevay @ Apr 24 2012, 07:38 PM)
seems all the issues are not a problem actually.. just you are not used to it yet...
good sign then  smile.gif
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yep..my saga only two brake disc preve 4 tongue.gif and never braked really hard haha..

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post Apr 24 2012, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(ahaks75 @ Apr 24 2012, 07:51 PM)
Congrats for those who got the car already. Hoping that anyone can check the engine noise/sound at low RPM. For me, the sluggish is okay since S mode can overcome that....but, I really hope that the engine sound can be reduce more.

Bro Mat97, what is the reason for the engine noise ? is it due to the lack of sound proofing ? but, there is one in the engine bay. Is it same with other car ?
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engine noise at low rpm good.. xbising..only when u change to s mode and u pedal to the metal then it bising
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post Apr 24 2012, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 24 2012, 08:39 PM)
about the engine noise, they called it booming sound. Actually, it is extensively reduce if u compare it with bold cfe...but the main focus is more on other noise and harshness like wind, tyre n road noise. The engine has noise, but not harsh. Want actually talk about things that people dont aware, but have to go for dinner. Off now.
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bro mat..how about wind noise coming in abot after 120 at certain angles form the A pillar..how r?
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post Apr 24 2012, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 24 2012, 08:53 PM)
ceh.. means its not SA fault.. its ur fault wan to wait for the number...
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post Apr 25 2012, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 24 2012, 10:38 PM)
r3 use 205/45 r16, but u can still opt for 205/55 r16, re 001 has that tyre size. Better to go to bridgestone authorised dealers coz they are tyre shops, n normally accept trade in. If go to prtn, u need to sell ur standard rim to other shops or mudah.com coz they dont accept trade in.

About the wind noise, can u check something for me, when u drive at 120kmh, try to off ur foot from throttle, if the noise is gone, then, it is cvt whining, not the wind noise. If even already off throttle(in d mode, in s mode, the whining is louder), and cvt whining is gone, but still has loud wind noise, then its the rubber, need to retrofit@change@seal back. If just really slow wind noise, then its normal. Its really hard actually to hear the wind accept already speed up to 140kmh@during windy day where wind is strong.

Coz it happen before, people confius the cvt whining with wind noise. Just off ur foot from throttle at 120kmh speed, n make sure u r in d mode. If the noise gone,then its not wind, but cvt whining. Since u mention u drive in s mode, the whining is louder compare to d mode.
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im prety certain it was wing whining as i was in D and sudah biasa bwk saga so maybe just need to retrofit back the rubber seal..if complaint knget it done ke?


Added on April 25, 2012, 8:25 am
QUOTE(maverickng @ Apr 24 2012, 11:30 PM)
macam susah to drive CVT sweat.gif

then new car can go Genting ka?? hmm.gif
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not hard la..yesterday drove it i finnaly understood how to drive a cvt thumbup.gif .. u just need the concept of how cvt works ur good to go..


Added on April 25, 2012, 8:26 am
QUOTE(dinwaja @ Apr 24 2012, 11:34 PM)
i hope Preve can climb up genting with less struggle...can maintain better RPM...less than 2000RPM is really hard...very slow...like turtle...with turbo...i think it should be no problem...
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just use d mode brows.gif

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post Apr 25 2012, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(sp3d2 @ Apr 24 2012, 11:41 PM)
will the car move in d mode without pressing the pedal? if yes,  then how to stop it using hand brake in order not to open the clutch(make it remain close)?
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yesterday at the trafic lights i applied what kristof said.. u use the handbrake at stand still. then when the lights are about to turn green u u select D/S from N then press throtle a bit then let go handbrake .. so no lag la..its like driving a manual..cz if u press the brake then mau tekan minyak it will take sometime to engage the clutch etc thats y got lag..


Added on April 25, 2012, 8:30 am
QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 24 2012, 11:45 PM)
hmm.. no point speculating guys... when the car come then we will know...
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Added on April 25, 2012, 8:31 am
QUOTE(dares @ Apr 24 2012, 11:49 PM)
CVT overheats easier than AT, yes. but most CVT drivetrains come with cooling systems.

Anyway, for discussion sake, say your engine peak torque is at 4k rpm. In a ATand MT drivetrain, you cannot stay at peak torque because your RPM goes up and down as your speed increase while you traverse the gears.

A CVT allows you to stay at 4k RPM as your speed increases, maximising acceleration and efficiency.
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so burn less fuel cz dont need to chase the torque thorugh the rpm range right?

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post Apr 25 2012, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 25 2012, 08:36 AM)
+1
That's the idea.  nod.gif optimal RPM for the given load, (almost) independent of speed. Plus our CVT is wet clutch-based, not torque converter, so even more efficient.
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we are cvt geng need to teach people how to use moreover this is clutch based so diff la rite? yesterday i was explaining to my SA why the car jerks when going slowly n tips how to drive a cvt.. he said "u know a lot about cars" all i can say is thanks to you guys hahaha tongue.gif
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post Apr 25 2012, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(earthdome @ Apr 25 2012, 08:39 AM)
never drove auto before. i wonder how this "sluggish" feeling will affect me. i'm pretty sure i'll do just like that at traffic light. same as manual.
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actually its only from standstill..when ur on the move its very effortless thumbup.gif ..a i read the reasonthey did that is to preserve the gearbox n engine n elak u surprise but s*x with car in front during jam biggrin.gif ..just keep in mind this like a manual car but someone is changing the gears for u


Added on April 25, 2012, 8:46 am
QUOTE(dares @ Apr 25 2012, 08:44 AM)
Actually no need to move the shift stick I think.

Keep in D/S, press footbrake to hold the car and open the clutch. When going to move, pull handbrake then releasing footbrake, press a bit of throttle then release handbrake.
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like that also can..is just that if u select N at standstill the cvt will cool off rite? moreover brakepads are not worn out too fast..correct or not? rclxms.gif

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post Apr 25 2012, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 25 2012, 08:50 AM)
Hmmm if the clutch is opened (with footbrakes) then the gearbox should already be disengaged from the engine, and the CVT and the car should not be moving.

anyone can chip in?
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haha yep anyone can confirm this? because IINM when press brake yes the car is not moving but when u want move on u press the throttle there is some lag rite? u floor it also dint move that fast.. so my method was addressing that lag la..or i misunderstood u sweat.gif
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post Apr 25 2012, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 25 2012, 09:01 AM)
You misunderstood me la.  sweat.gif

1. stop car using footbrake, hold footbrake while stopped (open clutch, disengages CVT from engine, no power to the wheels.)
2. When going to move, pull handbrake, then release footbrake. (allow the clutch to close.)
3. Press a little throttle, release handbrake.
4. Profit.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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ahh i see haha kk..i understand tongue.gif

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