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TSdi3hard
post Apr 18 2012, 10:46 PM, updated 14y ago

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I am doing assignment on economy and lecturer wanna us to do proposal to set up a business.
Need to count all the modal and so on.

Would be nice if anybody can help me in quoting me a suitable RIG for cybercafe.
I am also aware that we need something like server/hub that connect all the PC in a local area connection.

Anyway, since it is just a project, no need so specify. Just Roughly will do.
Anyway my current rig is as below:

Casing Emag Casing witf PSU 90
Hard Disk WD caviar Blue 500 GB 249
RAM Kingston Value RAM 4GB DDR3 65
MotherBoard ASROCK H61M-S 179
Graphic Card XFX HD 5670 512MB GDDR5 189
Processor Pentium G620 Dual Core 184

is this rig still usable, at least can play dota and HoN smoothly.

appreciate if anyone can propose another two diff RIG set that is more or less around the same specification
for me to make comparision in term of cost and performance in the assignment

advanced thanks for those who help. =)

This post has been edited by di3hard: Apr 18 2012, 10:48 PM
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post Apr 18 2012, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(di3hard @ Apr 18 2012, 10:46 PM)
I am doing assignment on economy and lecturer wanna us to do proposal to set up a business.
Need to count all the modal and so on.

Would be nice if anybody can help me in quoting me a suitable RIG for cybercafe.
I am also aware that we need something like server/hub that connect all the PC in a local area connection.

Anyway, since it is just a project, no need so specify. Just Roughly will do.
Anyway my current rig is as below:

Casing      Emag Casing witf PSU 90
Hard Disk      WD caviar Blue 500 GB 249
RAM Kingston  Value RAM 4GB DDR3    65
MotherBoard ASROCK H61M-S    179
Graphic Card XFX HD 5670 512MB GDDR5 189
Processor      Pentium G620 Dual Core 184

is this rig still usable, at least can play dota and HoN smoothly.

appreciate if anyone can propose another two diff RIG set that is more or less around the same specification
for me to make comparision in term of cost and performance in the assignment

advanced thanks for those who help. =)
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Well first what you have to take into account is the number of PC that you going to put inside
second is how many games you are planning to install inside,
third is maximum average budget per each pc

can you list those as reference?
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:17 PM

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since everything is just imaginary. Actually i can just put any reference as long as finally my cash flow diagram is profitable. LOL

I am going to have 80 pcs.
Roughly 1.5k per pc include monitor, keyboard and mouse and headset.

well, i duno how is cyber get their game, do they buy lisence for each and every game? that mush cost a lot. I think those basic basic and popular game must have lo.

Dota, warcraft, starcraft 2, red alert, some online game like maplestory, dragon nest, WOW, HoN? i duno, kindly correct me if u think it cant be done as i really have no experience at all.

Thanks again =)


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post Apr 18 2012, 11:32 PM

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dont forget Counter strike , need for speed , kids just love those games biggrin.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(sara__ @ Apr 18 2012, 11:32 PM)
dont forget Counter strike , need for speed , kids just love those games biggrin.gif
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haha, true but i think my lecturer wont see so detail ba. after all just an assignment~ LOL
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post Apr 19 2012, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Apr 18 2012, 10:57 PM)
Well first what you have to take into account is the number of PC that you going to put inside
second is how many games you are planning to install inside,
third is maximum average budget per each pc

can you list those as reference?
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you don't install those games into each PC. If you want to install in each PC you need license for each and every single one of those game.

QUOTE(di3hard @ Apr 18 2012, 11:17 PM)
since everything is just imaginary. Actually i can just put any reference as long as finally my cash flow diagram is profitable. LOL

I am going to have 80 pcs.
Roughly 1.5k per pc include monitor, keyboard and mouse and headset.

well, i duno how is cyber get their game, do they buy lisence for each and every game? that mush cost a lot. I think those basic basic and popular game must have lo.

Dota, warcraft, starcraft 2, red alert, some online game like maplestory, dragon nest, WOW, HoN? i duno, kindly correct me if u think it cant be done as i really have no experience at all.

Thanks again =)
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Besides of the PC you need to contact (the below), they are one of the license provider. Basically there are packages which you have to pay monthly and depending on the package it comes with a list of game. Of course you pay more you get more. icon_rolleyes.gif

http://www.smm.net.my/new%20html/services.php

*Next you will be looking at the Server to host most of the stuff in the Cyber Cafe and also your network hubs. Depending on how many PC you need, most probably you need 48 port hubs x 2. Now days WIFI is pretty reliable to cut cost on the installation charges i'll recommend you to get 1 good network router which is capable to support up to the x number of PC you required. Just get those usb wifi adapters and connect each and every single one of them to make things less complicated.

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post Apr 19 2012, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Apr 19 2012, 12:25 AM)
you don't install those games into each PC. If you want to install in each PC you need license for each and every single one of those game.
Besides of the PC you need to contact (the below), they are one of the license provider. Basically there are packages which you have to pay monthly and depending on the package it comes with a list of game. Of course you pay more you get more.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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The reason for the question is the Storage as in Harddrive,
if only targetted on small usage or application to be put inside
why bother with 500GB when you can buy 320GB instead.
As Harddrive price is still hike up far beyond orignal pricing.
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post Apr 19 2012, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Apr 19 2012, 12:42 AM)
The reason for the question is the Storage as in Harddrive,
if only targetted on small usage or application to be put inside
why bother with 500GB when you can buy 320GB instead.
As Harddrive price is still hike up far beyond orignal pricing.
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Infact yes. he should opt for 320gb if he can. Again you don't need to store most of the stuff in the PC. Your server suppose to be the one doing the job.
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post Apr 19 2012, 09:03 PM

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Thanks for those who reply me, really appreciate your helps.
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post Apr 19 2012, 09:04 PM

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I recommend you to put at least Gigabyte PoweRock 420W in it.
A high efficiency PSU can help in saving electricity.

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post Apr 19 2012, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Apr 19 2012, 09:04 PM)
I recommend you to put at least Gigabyte PoweRock 420W in it.
A high efficiency PSU can help in saving electricity.
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power supply for each pc? significant anot the saving of electricity bills?
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QUOTE(di3hard @ Apr 19 2012, 09:24 PM)
power supply for each pc? significant anot the saving of electricity bills?
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Good efficiency is usually the by-product of manufacturing a power supply with good / averagely good parts. To be honest, the decrease in electric cost is pretty small, but considering that you will be having 80 personal computers in your cyber cafe, the savings could add up to over a few ringgit, which may still be small for some though.

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post Apr 19 2012, 10:02 PM

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actually you'll be saving quite a lot by using a better psu. cap ayam ones can be used for quite a long time @ home, but in a continuous uses like CC, then failure rate is quite high. dust, heat, etc. you'll end up replacing them quite frequent than you think. As for casing, try dell vostro ones. you can get one @ ~rm60 only. very reliable front usb, unlike cap ayam casing. and the build is tougher too. (both hdd led and power led is blue, which is another nice addition. rear fan can fit either 92mm or 80mm (not included, but you can find used ones @ scrap center for below rm5)
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and since your budget is around 1.5K, i'd say logitech or microsoft combo desktop (mouse & keyboard) would be good.
and i'd recommend using a 20" screen that can go 1600x900 res with a hd6750 (~rm250) rather than 5670.

This post has been edited by runsing: Apr 19 2012, 10:12 PM
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post Apr 19 2012, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 19 2012, 09:29 PM)
Good efficiency is usually the by-product of manufacturing a power supply with good / averagely good parts. To be honest, the decrease in electric cost is pretty small, but considering that you will be having 80 personal computers in your cyber cafe, the savings could add up to over a few ringgit, which may still be small for some though.
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not only that, the tendency of a good psu to protect the hardwares are much reliable. Those cap ayam psu if strike tio you might have a kong mobo + hdd... It happen to me before and since then no more cheap PSU for me.

QUOTE(runsing @ Apr 19 2012, 10:02 PM)
actually you'll be saving quite a lot by using a better psu. cap ayam ones can be used for quite a long time @ home, but in a continuous uses like CC, then failure rate is quite high. dust, heat, etc. you'll end up replacing them quite frequent than you think. As for casing, try dell vostro ones. you can get one @ ~rm60 only. very reliable front usb, unlike cap ayam casing. and the build is tougher too. (both hdd led and power led is blue, which is another nice addition. rear fan can fit either 92mm or 80mm (not included, but you can find used ones @ scrap center for below rm5)
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and since your budget is around 1.5K, i'd say logitech or microsoft combo desktop (mouse & keyboard) would be good.
and i'd recommend using a 20" screen that can go 1600x900 res with a hd6750 (~rm250) rather than 5670.
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boss where to buy the casing only?
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post Apr 20 2012, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(di3hard @ Apr 18 2012, 10:46 PM)
I am doing assignment on economy and lecturer wanna us to do proposal to set up a business.
Need to count all the modal and so on.

Would be nice if anybody can help me in quoting me a suitable RIG for cybercafe.
I am also aware that we need something like server/hub that connect all the PC in a local area connection.

Anyway, since it is just a project, no need so specify. Just Roughly will do.
Anyway my current rig is as below:

Casing      Emag Casing witf PSU 90
Hard Disk      WD caviar Blue 500 GB 249
RAM Kingston  Value RAM 4GB DDR3    65
MotherBoard ASROCK H61M-S    179
Graphic Card XFX HD 5670 512MB GDDR5 189
Processor      Pentium G620 Dual Core 184

is this rig still usable, at least can play dota and HoN smoothly.

appreciate if anyone can propose another two diff RIG set that is more or less around the same specification
for me to make comparision in term of cost and performance in the assignment

advanced thanks for those who help. =)
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Intel pentium g620
Asrock h61m-s
Corsair 4gb ram ddr3
Sapphire hd7750
Dell casing that mention above
Gigabyte powerock 390w or 420w
Normal mouse kb monitor headset enough..
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Apr 19 2012, 11:34 PM)
not only that, the tendency of a good psu to protect the hardwares are much reliable. Those cap ayam psu if strike tio you might have a kong mobo + hdd... It happen to me before and since then no more cheap PSU for me.
boss where to buy the casing only?
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scary exp there sweat.gif
if you're in penang island, you can by from pearl comp (last year i bought 30units for a friend)
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btw, the included psu is 180watt, 20pin, but was able to power his (my friend's) rig
consist of ahtlonII 245 / 2GB ddr2 / 500GB / hd4670 without problem for almost a year now, and none of the 30unit fail yet thumbup.gif . even the usb.

QUOTE(chongxm @ Apr 20 2012, 11:04 AM)
Intel pentium g620
Asrock h61m-s
Corsair 4gb ram ddr3
Sapphire hd7750
Dell casing that mention above
Gigabyte powerock 390w or 420w
Normal mouse kb monitor headset enough..
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keyboard less prone to faulty than mouse, so for mouse, at least go for logitech m100 (~rm17).
the most common problem with keyboard @ CC is the disappearing letter over time. (oily hand/finger, fingernail scratch)
hdd7750 is good, runs cooler, and with lower power than a 5670/6670, but idk if the TS budget can make it (including LCD)

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post May 7 2012, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(di3hard @ Apr 18 2012, 10:46 PM)
I am doing assignment on economy and lecturer wanna us to do proposal to set up a business.
Need to count all the modal and so on.

Would be nice if anybody can help me in quoting me a suitable RIG for cybercafe.
I am also aware that we need something like server/hub that connect all the PC in a local area connection.

Anyway, since it is just a project, no need so specify. Just Roughly will do.
Anyway my current rig is as below:

Casing      Emag Casing witf PSU 90
Hard Disk      WD caviar Blue 500 GB 249
RAM Kingston  Value RAM 4GB DDR3    65
MotherBoard ASROCK H61M-S    179
Graphic Card XFX HD 5670 512MB GDDR5 189
Processor      Pentium G620 Dual Core 184

is this rig still usable, at least can play dota and HoN smoothly.

appreciate if anyone can propose another two diff RIG set that is more or less around the same specification
for me to make comparision in term of cost and performance in the assignment

advanced thanks for those who help. =)
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Y not u make a legal business proposal ?
Including Windows 7 license. U can make a call to local dealer of Microsoft like Sendi Mutiara for bulk price.
Some games like Dota need license but online game like Sudden Attack, Counter Strike Online, Fifa 2 Online is Free to Play.

Majlis Bandaraya & SSM licence is a must also. Good luck !

 

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