Hi Kristof,

This is pertaining to the CVT system on the Proton Saga FLX.

Is it safe to coast in N gear? Or allow the front wheels to spin at high speed in N gear?

I have been told that it might damage the CVT. Is that true?



No problem, as long as the engine is running!


So, I conclude that:

1.) It is OK to coast in N, still generally not recommended in any car because you lose engine braking and no engine power during emergencies. And IF you engage D mode while the car is coasting, it may damage your CVT.
2.) Do not tow your car with the front wheels on the road, unless your engine is running.
3.) It is OK to do on wheel balancing, as long as your engine is running.

FYI, the CVT oil pump runs on engine power, which is why you need a running engine.


Thanks for your quick reply. Here is another one:

When I Jack up the whole car, meaning the wheels are not touching the ground, and put the gear in D, the front wheels spins relatively slowly when I press the throttle pedal. This is different than my other 4AT car, which will spin at normal speed as if it is on the ground. Why is that?


Because there is a recognition on this, the back wheels are standing still, causing the transmission not to shift up, unless you press it harder.


No idea we had this feature in the CVT. Not sure what purpose it serves, though 

That is not all, having new+old Gaga at the same time will develope skidsomania! When I turn right trying to get out of my house, see the FLX next to me start laughing muted in her car bcoz my wiper activated malunyerr

morning guys!!!

sometimes i use my wiper and my light as my paddle shifter.

haha..  still dreaming why my flx se did not implement the paddle shifter...

my consumption is getting better now adays.. 70% City and 30% highway.

RM 30 can go till 185km (started to blinking)

now adays is so hot so i always using aircond..

not so pain like last time.. haha...

saving up for ultra racing and 3m tinted before hari raya

buy 3max from mahihi... better stability as its 4 point froint sturt.. and cheaper thn UR~!

The purpose is to protect the transmission unit, mainly clutch bearing. However, the answer is NOT the entire truth regarding the rear wheel sensor of standing still. The tranny itself should sense of torque distribution between the slipped differential. If u jackup 1 wheel and step on the gas pedal, slipped differential to distribute more on the free wheel to keep the car on the ground.some performance vehicle will limit the wheel spin freely to avoid lose control(most Hondie iVTAC don't allow free wheel spin,not sure about Gaga's CVT though). To simplify this, when u get out from parellel parking, you turn your steering to max right, your right wheel will have less torque, whilst your slipped differential allow more torque slip to the left wheel, then u may get out from the parking easily. Now, imagine if u have an LSD on your ride, think you'll take 1/2hour to park your car

http://www.howstuffworks.com/differential.htm

Sendiri copy & paste lar,can't use the hotlink from phone. The only thing we can suspect is the DbW. No load on wheel, cut down air/fuel supply. Reason for not spinning the wheel too fast when no load.

My 1st experience driving ISWAGA on Panglima Garang towards Klang before KESAS. Wasn't familiar with the road condition, accidently jumped my car on the bridge. The landing is horrible, where the wheels has been rev up to higher speed than the actual traveling(air speed), had a serious DRIFT after landed

Also another point(just thinking out loud), if CVT can do free spin, by the time you're 5th gear at 7200rpm, the wheel speed prolly 200kmh jor the innersia can push your car all the way down and launch like a rocket ady

May be that's why they limit the torque/rpm when wheels are not on load.

CVT only up to 4th gear while SAT can go up to 6th gear?

dares whats ur mileage now?

That, is pretty outstanding I can only achieve that on my manual tranny if I do 90 km/h all the way between Penang and KL, and the remainder of the tank spent in either place

Btw I achieved my record distance on one tank the other week. This should be no problem for you guys with the CVT, right?

Tibai! I've done so much to my GaGa BLM to achieve 11km/l, around 18c/km still f*cking jealous la :

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Added on May 15, 2012, 1:33 am

wadafuq.... :seriously thinking to sell off my BLM and get a blardy CVT FLX now

Waidaminute fuelly show your car as BLM 2010, how cum dash board different geh? BLM SE different dashboard ka? So pretty

wow dares , you gotta teach me how to achieve that target , i drive below 90km/h also get 14 cents only

Hi everyone. I just got my new Saga 1.3 FLX Exec two hours ago. Hehe I'm so happy now. This is my first car. For the past week i have been reading this thread to learn and be updated about saga. Hope can learn more from you guys.

P/S: r3apers, can put me in the owner's list ah?

Wow.. Why mine only 7.5km/l    my car drinking too much..

Actually you are only 0.5L away from engine stall...

dares

Yeah I know right PS Dares is your FLX SE's dashboard different from the regular FLX one?

Surprising. I thought at 130 km/h your RPM should still be around below 3,000?

(From Paultan)

Can't really see any difference other than the SE speedo going up to 240 km/h
Car still new lah. Wait till 10k+ and see. You'll be breaking your own records then

I read few posts from our forumer here who ran out of fuel, after refuel manage to pump in around 35L only...

Unless we can know our fuel pump is located at the lowest position of the fuel tank, else up/down hill will make it unable to suck the fuel from the bottom of tank.

This morning woke up late, left ISWAGA key on the table. Off I drove it, while stuck in Segambut, suddenly hear rattling sound came from engine bay. I was worrying & moving slowly since traffic jam. When I reach Jalan Ipoh, I stop by my supplier and check... Found the engine oil cap melted, the metal screw & the lock fall on the rocker The birds are injured,but still can use.however,I'm advised to drain the whole system to prevent debree continue hurting other component, best is overhaul since going to take out everything

Yes I agree. I personally find that above the speed limit, FC drops to city-like levels (my own levels), still good but not excellent any more.

From the way you described how your speed responds to the accelerator input, I realise now that I appreciate the fact that I can control speed and acceleration precisely on the highway on my manual, cos the gear ratio is fixed. Hope I'll get to test a chance on the CVT on the highway soon.

I thought only BLM (soft suspension and anti-roll bar) got such effect, apparently ur 15" rim FLX SE with revised suspension also like that oh...

Tall + light weight is the culprit.

Sometimes cruising @ highway, the cross wind also will cause this situation, thats why @ Melacca there PLUS recommend driver open their side wondows fully when reach the cross wind area.

His BLM? Not total lost meh?

I don't remember feeling that when I'm overtaking heavy vehicles, but when speeding express buses overtake me, it's quite bad. Even at some traffic lights when I stop on the right lane to turn right and the light is green for going straight, I can feel the car shake when motorcycles pass near me
Put 200 kg of counterweight in the boot. Problem solved

Seriously, I feel the car is more stable when I'm carrying passengers at the back.