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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V22 - Live or Die

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huzaifa136
post Apr 23 2012, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 23 2012, 12:29 PM)
What's wrong with those?  blink.gif


Added on April 23, 2012, 12:30 pm

Already changed CVT mounting, still there.

I'll update here la if the problem is solved. Dowanna speculate first  smile.gif
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does this problems affect both 1.3 or 1.6 only for now?

QUOTE(kenjilew @ Apr 23 2012, 12:31 PM)
RM55 ? can use or not ?
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remember about the ceramic brake pad? the tyre shop on the next block of yau yip selling at rm125 biggrin.gif tho i didn't install
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post Apr 23 2012, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Apr 23 2012, 12:40 PM)
oic... thought u wan it urgent~!
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urgent because the cheap quoted price at 65 in lowyat, no wonder people just stick with stock
not yet survey at other tyre shop

here's from lowyat automotive garage:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1300445
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post Apr 23 2012, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(Wuakaka @ Apr 23 2012, 01:12 PM)
http://www.bestformbrake.com/product.htm


Added on April 23, 2012, 1:22 pmlelong
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so it might not be 'ceramic' as they call it
mentioned 'ceramic' NAO (non-asbestos organic)
probably NAO + ceramic like characteristic != real ceramic as performance car use..
i wonder the other ceramic from tyre shop is real ceramic or 'ceramic' NAO
huzaifa136
post Apr 23 2012, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(Wuakaka @ Apr 23 2012, 02:28 PM)
sorry,i dare not to use to protect my disc brake,my previous disc brake got chipped off due to the semi metallic pad....furthermore,there is some couple of cars having dust on their rims if u go thru the thread...but anyhow,rm 45 is cheap,even the so called oem pad selling in spare part shop is also rm 45,lols...hehe

Non-Asbestos Organic

Sometimes listed as organic or NAO, these types of brake pads are made from fibers such as glass, rubber, carbon and Kevlar. In addition, non-asbestos organic brake pads have filler materials and high-temperature resins. These pads are softer and quieter than other types of pads, but they wear faster and create more brake dust.
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but the ceramic NAO or 'ceramic based friction material' it's different based on my reading. developed by akebono, but i still can't justify the cheap price of it, above 100 should be ok for ceramic/ceramic NAO. i also don't dare testing it tongue.gif it should be a bit better than oem coz it comes as oem for some car brand. just need to choose a trustable brand.

i'm confused here, does we hv a true ceramic brake pad? can't find enough information on the net
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post Apr 23 2012, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(Wuakaka @ Apr 23 2012, 03:13 PM)
"Ceramic" is a marketing term used to describe "non-asbestos organic" (NAO) or organic pads, which contain small to moderate amounts of ceramic powders or fibers. NAO materials typically exhibit low friction, high wear rates at high temperatures, and increased compressibility/soft brake pedal under hot stopping conditions.

To counteract this behavior they sometimes contain many other raw materials (such as abrasives and metal sulfides) to maintain thermal stability. While some toxic materials have been effectively replaced, "ceramic" or NAO friction materials still often contain fibers with many similar properties as asbestos (potassium titanate, antimony,cadmium, etc.)

These "ceramic" brake pads are not to be confused with true ceramic composite brake components used on some high-end cars in limited quantities. Real ceramic composite components have a ceramic matrix, and usually contain reinforcing fibers or particles to improve toughness and reduce catastrophic cracking. NAO ("Ceramic") pads have an organic matrix.

so in the end still,good things never comes cheap,so i believe those well known manufacturers will still do rnr and insert some particles to improve braking where it will act like real ceramic pad........therefore i couldnt find any other brake pad with ceramic nao tag on it...=x
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i was fooled by the 'ceramic' marketing. thanks btw. it should be better than oem in terms of performance but it is definitely not 'ceramic'. any recommended brake pad for upgrade from oem based on your experience?

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post Apr 23 2012, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Apr 23 2012, 07:43 PM)
Possibly, but I do feel its more quieter at lower speeds. Maybe like you say, since no more wind sound, the tire sound now is more 'prominent'..
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i think for the best effect, should soundproof floor and fender (all wheels) too.. but floors need a lot of efforts.
one simple thing can be done is to close the gap between door with rubber, those D, P shaped rubber.
i've noticed this on preve but preve's custom made.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1937085/all

jz like v12k said, if there's no sound disturbance from the side/door, it will penetrate thru engine wall and floor and fender
for best effect of course whole car soundproof for ICE enthusiast

but at least, we've improved our saga's ride rclxms.gif
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post Apr 24 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 24 2012, 03:07 PM)
Bro, you got the ignition wiring diagram ah?

Else i have to use multimeter tab out 1 by 1 lo...
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does our saga hv same diagram as persona? this is for persona,
notice the meter also lights up when opened the door
will the timer add other function? (lights up other related light)

http://faieelegance.blogspot.com/2011/10/d...ing-dimmer.html

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post Apr 26 2012, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(n3w @ Apr 26 2012, 10:45 AM)
My right side mirror - mirror only stolen last night. Replacement expensive kah?
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QUOTE(zeone @ Apr 26 2012, 11:14 AM)
Depends on for which car...
The one with LED turn indicator lamps wld be kinda expensive...  sad.gif

Theft of Saga BLM/FL/FLX parts appear 2b on the rise... sweat.gif
Radio antennas...wing mirrors....what next?

ps. Pls dun buy so-called ori parts from UNknown strangers or at xtra low prices...probly stolen parts??  tongue.gif
Alwaz rber...NO demand = NO sales = NO thefts!! rclxms.gif
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yesterday at lunch found a saga flx with missing antenna. location berkeley corner, klang. probably location of event was somewhere else

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post Apr 29 2012, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 29 2012, 12:55 PM)
Tuesday no permit, so won't come if it falls on Tuesday. Meanwhile, TRD V3 spoiler removed, sold for quick 100bucks. Now only realize that thing ACTUALLY works ph34r.gif Previously do 160 also won't feel the car floating, now 120 ady can feel my BLM tail flapping up & down sad.gif

Thanks to Huzaifa lighting up the fire during last week TT, u guys have no idea how it feels when u introduce your GAGA to fellow member, and the reply was "Mana? Oh! Itu VIOS puteh tu?!" shakehead.gif
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surprised that it really works, mybe trd did r&d before producing it.
jz joking man, but it's true what, that's trd's vios spoiler, i mean "oh, those with vios spoiler ke? tongue.gif

btw these few weeks rarely reply to forum, read also not as often as when preve was launched.
yesterday bought flx se bodykit from siuyi, condition good, oem fitting.

nx week will install it.
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post Apr 30 2012, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 30 2012, 12:36 AM)
Forever in loving memory, TRD V3 BLM spoiler
the extreme curves of trd spoiler tongue.gif

QUOTE(r3apers @ Apr 30 2012, 12:37 AM)
nice...u get full set rite? i will get mine within this week..maybe.. need to arrange we siuyi.. juz give siuyi *** me... sweat.gif  sweat.gif
yup full without spoiler.. u only order front right?
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post Apr 30 2012, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 30 2012, 11:39 AM)
sign0006.gif Ok, here is a slightly off topic regarding my test drive experience

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so how 1.6 flx se compared to 1.3 flx and preve? which is the best of the three cars without considering the price and gadget?

QUOTE(dares @ Apr 30 2012, 11:47 AM)
The turbo kicks in at 2k RPM.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
You are soooo never gonna touch my car  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif The other day V12k test my car's laggy throttle response I also no eye see  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif .
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u nvr drive that hard? WOT?

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post Apr 30 2012, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 30 2012, 12:07 PM)
I do. But letting someone else do it to your car is different.
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quite true unless i sit in the front passenger seat biggrin.gif
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post Apr 30 2012, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 30 2012, 04:38 PM)
You can't get all the comfort level in Preve in Saga, no matter old gen BLM or newest 1.6FLX.
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what if the next generation saga improves than the current gen, would u get the same saga or upgrade to preve?
i know it sounds silly to compare saga and preve, but saga is just nice and value for money. and price difference is very big to preve. saga vs preve is like polo to passat? or golf?

what will proton put in the price gap of saga and preve after persona phased out?

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post May 5 2012, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ May 5 2012, 08:49 PM)
Got member drive it up to 180km/h, and full load (4 person) drive up to genting. brows.gif  brows.gif


Added on May 5, 2012, 8:53 pm

Why bodykit trouble some, the car is dem high, you wanna scratch it also difficult.

That being said, the 1.6 variant is bumpier than the 1.3.
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bumpier bcoz of different tyre size + stiff suspension

this evening done installing bodykit on my flx. flx se wannabe, quite nice except the rims biggrin.gif
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post May 5 2012, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ May 5 2012, 09:02 PM)
hehe, nice bro. You painted it black? where's the spin spoiler? tak buat sekaligus?
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yep, black. why original flx se bodykit seems like matte? only front i think not that beautiful. mybe coz it's not full skirting, looks like misai tongue.gif

spin spoiler later, undecided coz overspent and oem looks good too

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post May 5 2012, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(frella @ May 5 2012, 09:05 PM)
what you mean 1.6 bumpier? hmm.gif what about the blockage at housing area. aish. what do we call that. as it has body kit, the car is lower, so really have slow down isnt it? that what proton salesman told me. makes me step back on 1.6 but look on 1.3
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i see, like dares said, our flx is high enough for speed bump, and the bodykit is not that low like aftermarket bodykits.
bumpier ride becoz if u compare with blm, fl, flx till flx se, on each version the ride becomes less bouncy hence better handling, but in the expense of comfort. and flx se using 15inch rim with low profile tyre.
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post May 5 2012, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ May 5 2012, 10:06 PM)
aherm~ how's ur flx se conversion? no upload and tag me in fb? enjoice? brows.gif
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hehe.. i've post it on ur topic cool2.gif
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post May 6 2012, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ May 6 2012, 01:16 AM)
wow, nicely done....so waiting ur spin spoiler to install.. will look nicer...and ur stock spoiler dont give Kenji FOC ar...
waiting my bodykit....hehe^^ btw i will ask my frenz c how much he charged me for the spray as his shop in puchong only~!
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thanks biggrin.gif spoiler undecided.. now with flx se bodykit, the spoiler seems ok. spin spoiler kacau the the smooth line of stock spoiler already..

QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 6 2012, 10:45 AM)
The stock lip of Huzaifa I booked ady brows.gif
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stock fl/flx lips spoiler?
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post May 6 2012, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 6 2012, 07:55 PM)
Dunno wor, the 1 last time u say going off? I'm ok with any thing that can fill up my bum laugh.gif want BM horn or not laugh.gif
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u got extra? can la.. sound like bmw huh?
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post May 7 2012, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 7 2012, 12:44 AM)
Yup! All tested working fine. Come TT to COD. I don't like take people money 1st, neither do I trust passing stuff here & there unless POSLAJU.

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Result is... I thought the fuel gauge damaged... brows.gif
u hv extra? im interested.

fc so good..  rclxms.gif

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