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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Carling Cup Winner,FA Cup Runner Up 2012

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prophetjul
post May 2 2012, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(simplicio @ May 2 2012, 09:26 AM)
Lucky i am not....!!
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His arse will be onfire too...have to answer to share holders!!
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Then dont post as if you are in the know........ nod.gif


Added on May 2, 2012, 9:37 am
QUOTE(Adell G @ May 2 2012, 09:31 AM)
duhhh of course we are not in CL, I accidentally left out CL spot
you cant be seriously happy about last night performance???
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I am not happy about this season PL performance.
But i can wait to see another season for further improvement.
One season is not enough.

2 CUP finanls IS an improvement...i AM happy with that.
More happier if we win the FA cup...... so give a bit of slack.


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post May 2 2012, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ May 2 2012, 09:52 AM)
I heard from someone that prior to the Fulham game, Liverpool must get at least 6 points to avoid finishing with the lowest point haul in the history of the club AKA worst league finish EVER.

2 cup finals is an improvement?  whistling.gif
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Of course its not an improvement on the 80/90s...... whistling.gif


Issit not an improvement on last year? rolleyes.gif
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post May 2 2012, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ May 2 2012, 09:58 AM)
Good job, now you are benchmarking Liverpool with Woy's Hogdson season which is probably worst ever manager in the history of Liverpool.

Then again, You'll be surprised to know if KK win/lose ratio is worse than Woy's..so what your say on this?
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i say its called transition.......in transition...you gets hiccups in the midst
of joy........

Hiccups are shown in the PL....no consistncy........

Joy in the Cups.........

Kennys only in the present job for a year....half the team is NOT his.........

Hes got to integrate new players into the OLDe.....dont you get hiccups?
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post May 2 2012, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(demio121 @ May 2 2012, 02:52 PM)
KD reaction to this morning defeat.

Kenny Dalglish fumes at Liverpool display

Rightly so and while we are that matter can i also remind KD that we have all seen how we give away league games before cup games all season and to hear him fume about our display.

I'm getting tired at him.  sorry if i sound like i m b****ing abt KD but yes i am.  you manage the team.  you decide who play.  if this thing happen through out the season its starting to make you look bad... really bad.  It is obvious you are saving player for Saturday.  someone ask me earlier here if i think KD is planning all this defeats.  i don't think i am far off to say "yes i think so".
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Shows how fickle fans can get.............and low down.......to call Kenny a sabouteur?

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QUOTE(demio121 @ May 2 2012, 03:47 PM)
1 time we can say its day off.  2 time, its bad luck.  its been goin on since Jan.  the way KD field the team, its pretty obvious and for him to say he is dissapointed after the game????  half way thru the game, the commentator already said, dun expect the team with so many changes gel in half a match.

if its a lost and i go on b****ing KD then u can call me fickle.  Look at the 2012 stats and call me fickle again.
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This tells me you are fickle and low..


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QUOTE(demio121 @ May 2 2012, 02:52 PM)

someone ask me earlier here if i think KD is planning all this defeats.  i don't think i am far off to say "yes i think so".


to think Kenny can sabotage Liverpool FC is the lowest you can get....

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post May 2 2012, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(demio121 @ May 2 2012, 03:56 PM)
well if u say i m the lowest then be it.  I hope you have stand by your club for over the past 20 years.

no one is bigger than the club and we just throw away over 70mil to end up 8th, creating losing record at Anfield and singing about Carling.
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i have been with the club for more than 35 years........through Hillsborough and Heysel.

Don t forget

WHEN Its the lowest point.............WHEN its darkest............



When you walk, through the storm
Hold you head up high
And don't be afraid , Of the dark
At the end of the storm, is a golden sky
And sweet silver song of our love
Walk on, through the wind
Walk on, through the rain
Though your dreams be tossed
And walk,
Oh, walk on (walk on)
walk on (walk on)
Walk on(walk on)
With hope in your heart
And you'll never walk alone
You'll never walk alone
Alone



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post May 3 2012, 07:27 AM

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QUOTE(demio121 @ May 2 2012, 04:13 PM)
peace mate.

I am with the club.  I've always said, no one is bigger than the club.  not KD.  for the record, i m not in favor of him coming back.  I've stand by the club on match day every day.  Seeing how we lost at Anfield hurts.  going by the season, its evident we save our best player for those cup games.  if its CL game, i can undstd, this is Carling and FA.  KD may not have plan to lost but he certainly do not plan to win with who he field.
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i still find a 'fan' who can say these things stll called a 'fan' astonishing........ rolleyes.gif

How many times now we have hit the posts/bar?
Does that imply Kenny does not plan to win?

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post May 3 2012, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(Adryan @ May 3 2012, 02:34 AM)
There's no denying the league season is horrendous and it's even worse than last season but we kinda got to look at the bigger picture. Kenny managed to get rid of alot of deadwoods (El Zhar, Poulsen, Konchesky, Jovanovic, Kyrgiakos and N'gog - alot of whom were not good enough for the club).

Then he spends money on Adam, Downing, Enrique and Coates. These players merely "replaced" if that's what you want to call it or only improved the squad a very little bit. At that time, they looked like good purchases but now, IMO, Adam and Downing are at best - squad players. Enrique is sound and Coates is young. Unless you're Man City or Chelsea back in 2003, strenghtening the team is going to take more than one season.

I'm not saying Kenny is the right man (though he could be) and I'm aware he's made signings whom maybe aren't good enough after all. I know no individual is bigger than the club, Kenny included (and he knows it to) but after all the club has given him, and he has given the club, he at least deserves a chance to rectify his mistakes.

We started the season in 3 competitions and we've won one and with a chance to win two out of three. Still can be considered a successful season.

League campaign is woeful, disastrous, abysmal, crap, shite or whatever you want to call it and I agree and I'm not happy but I still think the biggest problem is goal scoring and possibly a lack of more quality players (two wingers and a goalscorer would do it for me). If Kenny can fill those positions up and find the formula to score, together with the amount of chances or half chances we have created, I honestly think we will do better.

The other alternative of sacking the manager for a third time in 2 years is not going to help. The last thing we want, agian, is uncertainties with regards to the manager's position. Man City spent 200 million in their first two seasons and finished 9th and 10th and never won anything. Look where they are now after spending 100 million in each of the last 4 seasons!!
At last! Some words of sanity! rclxms.gif

Thanks!

Another season at least to rectify the short comings....

a world class striker and winger to get the best out of Suarez.
As far as Carroll is concerned, hes probably 2nd stringer unless we play the likes of Stoke.
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QUOTE(digilife @ May 3 2012, 08:37 AM)
Common , in a sense that we gave some "lesser team some scalp to keep" and Anfield used to be a fortress a few years back. In return for doing this "karma" we shall win 2 Cups this season. This is Karma. btw, if we have converted the post and bar shootings into goals, we would be in number 4 in the league now. Looking back we are not too bad either. We did attack the opponent's goal, its a fact, just we dun have a Cisse + Demba , instead we got a Carroll, same price if not lesser  doh.gif
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Karma says Carroll scores in the final and repays half of his fees........ biggrin.gif

AND that header would be off the underside of the bar as well.................
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post May 3 2012, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ May 3 2012, 09:11 AM)
Definitely not.Same argument used for charlie adam and stewart downing last time around.Look how it turned out.
he's a big fish in a small pond.
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Steven Fletcher? No thanks........
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 3 2012, 10:43 AM)
Astonishing? I find it ludicrous that anyone can suggest Kenny intends to sabotage the team, especially after all that he's done for the club. Such baseless comments based on zero fact should be ignored. 


Yes SIR! smile.gif

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You called? I don't need to write a cool story. Already said I'd give him more time to right the wrong. You don't always get it right on your first attempt and everyone deserves a second chance, especially someone of Kenny's stature. Your choice to either back him or stand against him. I choose the former because in my eyes, he should never walk alone. If he still can't cut it, he'll step down on his own accord.
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Yes. Kenny will do the right thing for Liverpool FC.
i will not be surprised to even see that he steps down in summer ON HIS OWN accord if he thinks he cant bring us further anymore........
BUT with Liverpool FC already securing the next gaffa
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post May 4 2012, 08:19 AM

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Some of us here are not realsitic.

Its only 20 months ago when there was change of ownership
and 17 months ago when Kenny took over.

To bring back those dark times, we were in shambles financially.
ADministration was being mentioned at the time!

20 months later, we won a cup.
Yes, no doubt 'only' the Carling cup. But no less A CUP.

Cometh Saturday, we are in the FA Cup Final...

Rome was not build in a day.

i have been supporting Liverpool since the 70s....and i have not seen the PL trophy since 1990. seen Hillsborough, seen Heysel.
These two events have taken a lot out of the club.
The damage has been very much irreparable, financially, emotionally, etc.
The club's spirit has been very much tested by the two events.

Since then we have had owner changes.

The road has been long, winding, bumpy and many changes have taken place in the English game. The rich moguls have taken over clubs with endless
source of funding. The foreigners have come in by the truckloads.
Money is the name of the game.

Adapting to these changes is not easy.

Players are no longer loyal. They are only loyal to success. at least some of them.
Some people think managemnet is like fantasy football. You can deal at the pressing
of a switch!

Some talk about getting players to get inyo the CL.
Yet some mentioned that no players would wanna join a team not in the CL.
Get players first OR get into the CL first?
So tell me, what do you do?

How many of you are managers in real life?
They will tell you how difficult human beings can be.
Managing one is difficult enough. Managing 25 and trying to tell them
to play as ONE in unity?

i just lost an engineering manager and a chemist. It will take me at least 3 to 6 months
to replace them, a year to train them.
Another year to let them gel into the team

Takes TIME.........Give some
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post May 7 2012, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 6 2012, 09:29 PM)

It needs to be said again that we pick the club we support and when we do, we should not expect anything in return. There is nothing stronger than the heart of a volunteer and it pains me to read that there are people who feel they are owed something for their support. If you feel you are, maybe you're supporting the wrong club.
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QUOTE(Petre @ May 8 2012, 11:33 AM)
100m of wasted money and a mickey mouse cup and you ask the owner to leave?  rclxms.gif
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Where did you get 100mil?
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 8 2012, 12:16 PM)
I feel u. AC & JH is young and got potentials. What KD need to do is tweak the tactics & formation to optimize their skillset.

Meanwhile Clowning and Adam...hmphh...better just sell them even at low price. Better now or never. hey we've got Aquaman and Joe Cole coming from loan spell dint we?
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May have some spot for Aqua, but joe? Think not.....
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 8 2012, 12:23 PM)
Honestly speaking, both Maxi and Bellamy are better than Downing.

How can Downing be good enough?
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agree with this.

Hes not effective at all.

We need a finisher of the Rush/Fowler/Owen type....clinical and deadly
This will lift the burden off Suarez and we will see more goals from him.
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ May 8 2012, 02:18 PM)
does anyone in the club likes losing? after all the training, after all the sweat they put in the club?


Added on May 8, 2012, 2:22 pm
Yeap...its out of order. But saying 'no one is bigger than the club' yet say 'oh Henry is untouchable' in the same breath  sounds weird aint it?

manifesting his hate towards Kenny thru the world lenses is not the way you shud 'work as a unit' does not help either.

Im just thinking aloud here...no offense.
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For all we know, could have been JHenry's fault for employing Comolli!


Added on May 8, 2012, 2:52 pm
QUOTE(carloz28 @ May 8 2012, 02:40 PM)
None taken. Telling Henry to leave is akin to telling your boss to take a hike when you are not performing up to his standards. You didn't sleep for 3-4 nights preparing the tender/proposal for an important contract, but in the end you lost the tender because your competitor offers better pricing, service and resource than you do.

Does it sound right to you?
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First of all,we are Not the employees. Fans are the customers.
If the owners of the club dont cut it, fans have a right to tell them owners to take a hike as well.

Thats the beauty of a football club! biggrin.gif

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post May 9 2012, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ May 9 2012, 07:14 AM)
Perfect send off for KD more like it... Now let's trash Swansea to remove Brendan Rodgers out of the candidate list please!
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carloz28 should tell JHenry to appoint him for the post..
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QUOTE(vcj1992 @ May 9 2012, 07:57 AM)
Not sure if anyone noticed Maxi Rodriguez waving goodbye to the home fans when he's being subbed out. I was really touched by that.  cry.gif He deserved all the standing ovation by the fans. Been a great servant for Liverpool and deserved a lot more playing time than 10 matches this season. Thank you Maxi.
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A great player with BRAINs....... Thanks MAXI! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(liez @ May 9 2012, 08:32 AM)
Good thing to Liverpool fans, this match may save KD from being fired.
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It seems some of these so called fans are HELL bent on seeing Kenny fired.....

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