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post Apr 10 2012, 10:09 AM, updated 14y ago

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Proton: Syed Zainal resigns
Proton Holdings Bhd MD Datuk Seri Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir has resigned, raising
concerns over the future of the national car maker which was recently taken over by
conglomerate DRB-Hicom Bhd. His departure, which could presage resignation from other senior
management staff in the company in coming weeks, is due to differences with the new owners
over Proton’s future direction, close associates of the Proton chief and industry executive said.
(Financial Daily)

I'm still trying to get other sources on this, but since this comes from ECM Libra, looks legit.

SoS

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post Apr 10 2012, 10:11 AM

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so what does it indicates?
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post Apr 10 2012, 10:14 AM

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new management = hard to songlap = cabut
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post Apr 10 2012, 10:14 AM

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so the cars after Preve will go back to craptastic level QA?
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Pity though. He actually did a good job while at the helm.
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post Apr 10 2012, 10:20 AM

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habis, seems like the end of proton.

DSZ Is the only person that can run proton well.

i heard there is this plan. DRB hicom use proton to keep the car price high(as an excuse) and profit from the rest of the car brand under him

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post Apr 10 2012, 10:38 AM

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Wtfrog? So Preve QC gonna go down to drain again?
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post Apr 10 2012, 10:40 AM

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If this is true.. it will be a great loss for Proton.
Global car idea is his idea. Local car for rakyat is maheleel idea..
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post Apr 10 2012, 10:44 AM

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post Apr 10 2012, 10:52 AM

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maybe tak ngam with new management... maybe
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post Apr 10 2012, 10:52 AM

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paultan confirms

http://paultan.org/2012/04/10/breaking-dat...abidin-resigns/
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post Apr 10 2012, 10:52 AM

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I guess this is the surprise that he mentioned during the media preview of the Preve
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post Apr 10 2012, 10:53 AM

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post Apr 10 2012, 10:55 AM

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THIS IS THE DAMNEST THING I EVER HEARD
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post Apr 10 2012, 10:59 AM

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Ah shit, not buying a proton then for awhile.
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but but I want proton to come out quality p322a hatchback sad.gif
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tat sometimes happen to a M&A.. new company (DRB) would want to appoint people that carry the same vision

I foresee it is a positive move as DRB has been quite aggressive and visionary
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post Apr 10 2012, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(skool @ Apr 10 2012, 10:52 AM)
I guess this is the surprise that he mentioned during the media preview of the Preve
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Its going to be a huge lost for Proton but who knows someone else capable to bring proton into greater heights.

SZ contribution to Proton is tremendous but looks like a new of Proton is emerging, moreover with a possible sale of Group Lotus. wink.gif
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QUOTE(tytaniumism @ Apr 10 2012, 11:01 AM)
tat sometimes happen to a M&A.. new company (DRB) would want to appoint people that carry the same vision

I foresee it is a positive move as DRB has been quite aggressive and visionary
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visionary? look at proton when they was under drb last time
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No other person can do a better job than the one who created the vision of "be no.1 again" and "committed to be better".
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Drb Hicom is trying to merge the proton with VW is it, so the MD disagree this idea and resign??? Is that true? My friend told me this story wor!
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If we can get cheaper VW cars why not but what about Preve?

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QUOTE(Gigabit @ Apr 10 2012, 11:05 AM)
If we can get cheaper VW cars why not but what about Preve?
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I doubt they would do rebadging as they themselves has clearly announced that there will be no Proton "POLO".. stating that rebadging is actually going backwards and bla bla...
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Dammit. My biggest fears are coming true. A return to the useless proton of the 90s. Get rid of the good people first, chuck in garbage.

I can only hope that things don't get worse from here.

I wouldn't give a damn if not for the fact that proton inevitably sucks tax payers money.

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Let's not jump to conclusion, see how Proton do in these few years and who's gonna replace him? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(neo1point3 @ Apr 10 2012, 11:11 AM)
Let's not jump to conclusion, see how Proton do in these few years and who's gonna replace him?  unsure.gif
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You're right, I suppose. I just hate seeing all the progress they've made being flushed down the toilet again.

We can only sit and wait to see what happens.
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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Apr 10 2012, 11:02 AM)
visionary? look at proton when they was under drb last time
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they were under DRB before this?
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 10 2012, 11:15 AM)
they were under DRB before this?
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proton was under hicom before khazanah bought their share
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 10 2012, 11:15 AM)
they were under DRB before this?
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technically.. they got some share.
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 10 2012, 11:15 AM)
they were under DRB before this?
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Back to rebadging la, more ppl will be happy.
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I am worried and curious what is Proton's future product plan will be.
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What I most fear is quality of proton going down to the drain once again. All cronies vendor will be back in business again to supply low quality material at 1st grade price. Shit... i just cant imagine...
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Its confirmed sad.gif

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...n-quits-proton/
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 10 2012, 11:19 AM)
I am worried and curious what is Proton's future product plan will be.
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Probably this involve VW, TM plant which is not favoroble to him and proton.

But if i remember correctly, government already agreed VW-Proton collaboration. But Proton rejected. The cabinet give chance to Proton to come out their plan and present to government. Goverment seems to be satisfifed with the plan..

Now, we will see the talk resume i guess.
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babi la DRB ni
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probably DSZ not the strong proxy for the cronies.. since he get rid all the cronies..

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QUOTE(tytaniumism @ Apr 10 2012, 11:01 AM)
tat sometimes happen to a M&A.. new company (DRB) would want to appoint people that carry the same vision

I foresee it is a positive move as DRB has been quite aggressive and visionary
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The BMW of Asia
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Even the PR dept doesn't know about his decision. He must be really angry/disappointed to be taking this path
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Haihz.. i guess in the days or weeks to come we would find out what makes him and all the other senior ppl leave...


Added on April 10, 2012, 11:40 amWho will take the wheel?

http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/20120121013642/Article/

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I wonder would he decide to go back to Perodua again? Since he actually came from there. I bet P2 would be glad to have him back again
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The thing is despite SZ's tremendous contribution to Proton which includes introducing car models which were favourable to Mysians, improving Proton's QC and makes Proton more favouable after TM ruined it, his biggest downfall i think is his support for Group Lotus, morever as a supporter of Dany Bahar's crazy ambitious plans.

Pledging lots of Proton hard earned profits for GL which contributed to quarterly profit into negative is not putting Proton in favour to the eyes of DRB. DRB is now slowing getting rid of Lotus by cutting down funds to Lotus, which explains GL is pulling out from F1 as title sponsor. Eventually by changing the management and selling GL for profit will bring more monies and benefit for Proton.

Seeing SZ leaving is sad, but i will be furious if his replacement is TM. doh.gif

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QUOTE(HanzoRacing @ Apr 10 2012, 11:43 AM)
The thing is despite SZ's tremendous contribution to Proton which includes introducing car models which were favourable to Mysians, improving Proton's QC and makes Proton more favouable after TM ruined it, his biggest downfall i think is his support for Group Lotus, morever as a supporter of Dany Bahar's crazy ambitious plans.

Pledging lots of Proton hard earned profits for GL which contributed to quarterly profit into negative is not putting Proton in favour to the eyes of DRB. DRB is now slowing getting rid of Lotus by cutting down funds to Lotus, which explains GL is pulling out from F1 as title sponsor. Eventually by changing the management and selling GL for profit will bring more monies and benefit for Proton.

Seeing SZ leaving is sad, but i will be furious if his replacement is TM. doh.gif
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Money is not a problem for Proton i guess. In terms of RnD, they receive grant from government. But of course, how long the goverment will keep giving them money?

The problem is, in terms of engineering we still lack on this. That is why DSZ want to keep lotus. He sees the benefit.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Apr 10 2012, 11:48 AM)
Money is not a problem for Proton i guess.  In terms of RnD, they receive grant from government.  But of course, how long the goverment will keep giving them money?

The problem is, in terms of engineering we still lack on this. That is why DSZ want to keep lotus.  He sees the benefit.
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As a business Proton is not looking good. They are making alot of lost lately. DRB have deep pockets but i fear they will lower down quality and service in order to go back to black financially...
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Apr 10 2012, 11:48 AM)
Money is not a problem for Proton i guess.  In terms of RnD, they receive grant from government.  But of course, how long the goverment will keep giving them money?

The problem is, in terms of engineering we still lack on this. That is why DSZ want to keep lotus.  He sees the benefit.
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Keeping Lotus's engineering arm is good as this is the only division of Lotus that makes profit. However the car divisions dont. With Dany Bahar's ambitious but crazy 5-6 new car plans, new V8 engines, and crazy tons of money outflow for motorsports sponsorship doesn't seem suitable for a small car maker like Proton, moreover after just recovered from massive losses before SZ took over.


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DSZ is great man. I think maybe he will join other better brand car rather then stay in proton.

After so many hard work to build back our trust. I can said now people looking at Proton as DSZ rather then proton brand.

Like looking at Apple as Steve Jobs. From here you can see how important that person to the company.
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anybody miss car's like tiara & juara? this kind of car's is DRB's idea & force proton to produce
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Hope Mahalel not in top again. I hope DRB not that stupid.
Please find someone decent to replace DSZ, if not better, at least on par.
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leng ar.. we can see more Mitsubishi Rebadge and now VW rebadge ah! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

The Proton Salo rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Apr 10 2012, 11:48 AM)
Money is not a problem for Proton i guess.  In terms of RnD, they receive grant from government.  But of course, how long the goverment will keep giving them money?

The problem is, in terms of engineering we still lack on this. That is why DSZ want to keep lotus.  He sees the benefit.
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govt will always give grants for r&d for every company/institutions/unis for the advancement of science and technology in malaysia..
heck if you wanna do something cool and commercialize your research in uni, you can put a proposal and submit it to mtdc and they will give you money and equipment to quickstart your hitech business
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looks like we're fked.

toyota is shit now, honda is turning to shit, perodua is pricey and shitty,

looks like we'll have to fork out more for subarus or fords next time
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 10 2012, 11:51 AM)
As a business Proton is not looking good. They are making alot of lost lately. DRB have deep pockets but i fear they will lower down quality and service in order to go back to black financially...
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they are at a loss because they decided to fund lotus crazy plans of making 5 cars until 2015 that costed proton 1 billion ringgit.. if proton isnt funding lotus, id say proton is doing very well now
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QUOTE(be7a @ Apr 10 2012, 01:26 PM)
looks like we're fked.

toyota is shit now, honda is turning to shit, perodua is pricey and shitty,

looks like we'll have to fork out more for subarus or fords next time
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no worries mate, forte will save the day, good quality and value for money. brows.gif

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QUOTE(be7a @ Apr 10 2012, 12:26 PM)
looks like we're fked.

toyota is shit now, honda is turning to shit, perodua is pricey and shitty,

looks like we'll have to fork out more for subarus or fords next time
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base on wat u said... Proton is the best?! drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

Preve > all.. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Apr 10 2012, 12:30 PM)
no worries mate, forte will save the day, good quality and value for money.  brows.gif
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yes he is good in stabilising proton but one thing most of us dont know is syed mokhtar always want his own man to manage the groups.
for example when he bought POS, he put his own man in charge. so when DRB bought Proton, the question is not IF syed zainal to be replace, but WHEN. then come today.

dont bash mokhtar, i think he is a humble man. and the way POS malaysia going transformation these days, i think there are positives for proton as well. and everyone know mokhtar likes business and this means he likes profits. doesnt necessarily he will hike the car prices up for the profits.

and with proton out of government stable of business expect the protectionism to be less and less. not in one shot but little by little. so definitely we will see tighter competition.
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QUOTE(mokhzaini @ Apr 10 2012, 12:32 PM)
yes he is good in stabilising proton but one thing most of us dont know is syed mokhtar always want his own man to manage the groups.
for example when he bought POS, he put his own man in charge. so when DRB bought Proton, the question is not IF syed zainal to be replace, but WHEN. then come today.

dont bash mokhtar, i think he is a humble man. and the way POS malaysia going transformation these days, i think there are positives for proton as well. and everyone know mokhtar likes business and this means he likes profits. doesnt necessarily he will hike the car prices up for the profits.

and with proton out of government stable of business expect the protectionism to be less and less. not in one shot but little by little. so definitely we will see tighter competition.
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but with DSZ doing so great in bringing proton back up despite since under govt
now under DRB, they should have ask him to stay
u never get the next person to be as good as him...unless with a proven track record
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Proton denies Syed Zainal berhenti:

MEDIA STATEMENT FROM PROTON HOLDINGS
"We refer to the news report in The Edge Financial Daily dated 10 April 2012 on the resignation of PROTON’s Group Managing Director, Dato’ Sri Haji Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir. PROTON is not aware of the source of this speculation. Dato’ Sri Haji Syed Zainal is still holding the position of the Group Managing Director of PROTON, and his services are still required in the company.
The post-acquisition exercise is still proceeding smoothly and upon the completion of the same, PROTON is expected to have a strong synergy of current and new management team members that will provide PROTON with the necessary impetus to lead the company in its aspiration to become a globally successful automotive player."
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Proton shares must have dropped like flies after publishing this story. So, they counter back to maintain the prices.
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Actually it will be the worst career mistake/blunder for him to resign is now, esp a new model is on the verge of launching.
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 10 2012, 01:10 PM)
Proton denies Syed Zainal berhenti:

MEDIA STATEMENT FROM PROTON HOLDINGS
"We refer to the news report in The Edge Financial Daily dated 10 April 2012 on the resignation of PROTON’s Group Managing Director, Dato’ Sri Haji Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir. PROTON is not aware of the source of this speculation. Dato’ Sri Haji Syed Zainal is still holding the position of the Group Managing Director of PROTON, and his services are still required in the company.
The post-acquisition exercise is still proceeding smoothly and upon the completion of the same, PROTON is expected to have a strong synergy of current and new management team members that will provide PROTON with the necessary impetus to lead the company in its aspiration to become a globally successful automotive player."
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Actually it will be the worst career mistake/blunder for him to resign is now, esp a new model is on the verge of launching.
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no its not...
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 10 2012, 01:26 PM)
no its not...
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 10 2012, 01:33 PM)
why not?
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Actually it will be the worst career mistake/blunder for him to resign is now, esp a new model is on the verge of launching.
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perhaps it is for the better good. look at the big picture brows.gif business is still business.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Apr 10 2012, 01:14 PM)
Proton shares must have dropped like flies after publishing this story. So, they counter back to maintain the prices.
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QUOTE(ryanliew87 @ Apr 10 2012, 10:14 AM)
new management = hard to songlap = cabut
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Added on April 10, 2012, 2:12 pmWTFish.... no big deal. He is under performing with Inspira almost a failure and don't think Preve ( fukkup name ) can do any better. Good riddance. Proton making losses year after year after year. Sinking like the TITANIC ..


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QUOTE(gin&tonic @ Apr 10 2012, 02:03 PM)
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Added on April 10, 2012, 2:12 pmWTFish.... no big deal. He is under performing with Inspira almost a failure and don't think Preve ( fukkup name ) can do any better. Good riddance. Proton making losses year after year after year. Sinking like the TITANIC ..
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Apr 10 2012, 01:47 PM)

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QUOTE(gin&tonic @ Apr 10 2012, 02:03 PM)
+1 rclxms.gif


Added on April 10, 2012, 2:12 pmWTFish.... no big deal. He is under performing with Inspira almost a failure and don't think Preve ( fukkup name ) can do any better. Good riddance. Proton making losses year after year after year. Sinking like the TITANIC ..
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huh? they sold 10000 inspira last year. failure? ohmy.gif

then forte and civic all how?

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btw, waiting for mat79 explains why he wanna leave proton thumbup.gif
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mat79 is bz answering phone call from the press... tongue.gif
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mat79 is bz answering phone call from the press... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Apr 10 2012, 02:46 PM)
mat79 is packing his stuff liao. He's resigning after all.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Apr 10 2012, 01:14 PM)
Proton shares must have dropped like flies after publishing this story. So, they counter back to maintain the prices.
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QUOTE(gin&tonic @ Apr 10 2012, 02:03 PM)
+1 rclxms.gif


Added on April 10, 2012, 2:12 pmWTFish.... no big deal. He is under performing with Inspira almost a failure and don't think Preve ( fukkup name ) can do any better. Good riddance. Proton making losses year after year after year. Sinking like the TITANIC ..
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this guy must be trollin
DSZ is the one who create the new management
if not you're not gonna see saga, exora, inspira or preve
u would see another new waja or new gen2
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 10 2012, 02:25 PM)
huh? they sold 10000 inspira last year. failure?  ohmy.gif

then forte and civic all how?

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btw, waiting for mat79 explains why he wanna leave proton  thumbup.gif
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Mana ada 10000 Inspira sold in 2011. Check before u bull. Only about 6900 units la. doh.gif


http://paultan.org/2011/09/27/maa-vehicle-...or-august-2011/
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QUOTE(gin&tonic @ Apr 10 2012, 04:02 PM)
Mana ada 10000 Inspira sold in 2011. Check before u bull. Only about 6900 units la. doh.gif
http://paultan.org/2011/09/27/maa-vehicle-...or-august-2011/
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wow, u took august result to represent whole year rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

u're not bull, you're cow.
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wow, u took august result to represent whole year  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

u're not bull, you're cow.
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Mana ada 10000 Inspira sold in 2011. Check before u bull. Only about 6900 units la. doh.gif
http://paultan.org/2011/09/27/maa-vehicle-...or-august-2011/
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bila zaman punye stat. tu.... mana bln 9,10,11 & 12 pegi?
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Inspira was based on Gen2 right? Who's tenure was Gen2 manufactured in?
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Inspira was based on Gen2 right? Who's tenure was Gen2 manufactured in?
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 10 2012, 04:14 PM)
doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Inspira was based on Gen2 right? Who's tenure was Gen2 manufactured in?
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Then u show la black & white here lembu..
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so if i call you a girl, you need to post photo to show me your balls?

doh.gif

u go find result to proof me wrong la.

rebadge always make money la doh.gif ( ok, other than tiara and juara)

see here you lazy cow. doh.gif


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ok, not 10000 car, its

9840.


in short, we called it 10000.
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QUOTE(gin&tonic @ Apr 10 2012, 04:13 PM)
Then u show la black & white here lembu..
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You the one said Inspira is a failure, so you la show the prove.
Inspira sales more better than Forte anyway. I think around 40%-50% more than Forte overall sales for 2011.

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so if i call you a girl, you need to post photo to show me your balls?

doh.gif

u go find result to proof me wrong la.

rebadge always make money la doh.gif ( ok, other than tiara and juara)

see here you lazy cow. doh.gif
http://www.motortrader.com.my/Cars/Images/...OP-50-2011.aspx
ok, not 10000 car, its

9840.
in short, we called it 10000.
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oh!!.. u are wrong.. it is 9840... not 10,000.... icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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oh!!.. u are wrong.. it is 9840... not 10,000....  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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lol. sigh, its like a court house here.
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LYN wor...  LYN FnF wor.. of course la...  how many Keyboard Warriors here u know...  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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Haha not bad losing some steam. LYN rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Apr 10 2012, 05:22 PM)
You the one said Inspira is a failure, so you la show the prove.
Inspira sales more better than Forte anyway. I think around 40%-50% more than Forte overall sales for 2011.
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still lose to ..... if you smelllllll... what Myvi's cooking. notworthy.gif the king of kings of rebadge.
nevermind Proton will soon catchup with its new management. soon... we will have our own Proton Sago and Proton GTi. Maybe we'll also get Proton Perdanapassat aka Langsat.

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is it confirm dsz leaving proton? paultan has remove the news about dsz 'resignation'...
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QUOTE(eastwest @ Apr 10 2012, 05:08 PM)
is it confirm dsz leaving proton? paultan has remove the news about dsz 'resignation'...
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thn its not confirmed thn if paultan removed it
i dn't think he resign as well since the preve hasn't launched at all
and somemore theres still p3-22a to go
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why dont we wait for mat79 ?

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 10 2012, 05:13 PM)
why dont we wait for mat79 ?

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you see MD usually got a big big room just for himself, so i wonder how long it will take to pack all of his belongings laugh.gif
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wait he didnt finished packing his stuffs yet..
you see MD usually got a big big room just for himself, so i wonder how long it will take to pack all of his belongings  laugh.gif
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and need to delete his email biggrin.gif

and the record of surfing LYN rclxms.gif
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Zzzz where is bro mat
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 10 2012, 05:16 PM)
and need to delete his email biggrin.gif

and the record of surfing LYN  rclxms.gif
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He is still the Group MD lar...

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 10 2012, 04:25 PM)
lol. sigh, its like a court house here.
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Since when is our courthouse like a circus .... oh wai- ... laugh.gif

QUOTE(MR_alien @ Apr 10 2012, 05:12 PM)
thn its not confirmed thn if paultan removed it
i dn't think he resign as well since the preve hasn't launched at all
and somemore theres still p3-22a to go
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Paultan didn't remove it. He just added an additional article saying Proton denies it.

QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 10 2012, 05:13 PM)
why dont we wait for mat79 ?

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What if mat79 is DSZ? And he's now busy packing his bags? ohmy.gif ohmy.gif icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Apr 10 2012, 05:28 PM)
He is still the Group MD lar...

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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Apr 10 2012, 05:14 PM)
wait he didnt finished packing his stuffs yet..
you see MD usually got a big big room just for himself, so i wonder how long it will take to pack all of his belongings  laugh.gif
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harap2 dsz tk resign la

kalau korang ada bos besar yg jenis alim & strict pasal quality,compare dgn bos besar yg kaki pompuan-pantang tgk pompuan dahi licin,cepat je naik rank asal blh jadik skandal whistling.gif

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QUOTE(e36.hartge @ Apr 10 2012, 05:32 PM)
harap2 dsz tk resign la

kalau korang ada bos besar yg jenis alim & strict pasal quality,compare dgn bos besar yg kaki pompuan-pantang tgk pompuan dahi licin,cepat je naik rank asal blh jadik skandal whistling.gif
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yup..thats why we should pressure/threat proton with its share price if they let DSZ resign..
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QUOTE(e36.hartge @ Apr 10 2012, 05:32 PM)
harap2 dsz tk resign la

kalau korang ada bos besar yg jenis alim & strict pasal quality,compare dgn bos besar yg kaki pompuan-pantang tgk pompuan dahi licin,cepat je naik rank asal blh jadik skandal whistling.gif
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well we all hope that he will not be resigning
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Its a leaked story from high rank...proton is going to get a new head...

N ecm libra also speculate about the rebadge polo

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Just wait for tomoro newspaper or tonight news.. hope it's not true sad.gif

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should i call him to confirm?

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should i call him to confirm?

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nanti he rclxub.gif coz random stranger somehow ada his number asking bout his resignation... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 10 2012, 06:27 PM)
nanti he rclxub.gif coz random stranger somehow ada his number asking bout his resignation... laugh.gif
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I find it scary that you have his number.

Call him la

V12k "Oi datuk, you dah resign kah? nak pegi mane ni?"
DSZ "Nanti saya kasi tau dekat LYN."
V12k "Oh so you memang mat79 la?"
DSZ "no komen"
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i'm not dsz lah, sorry,just bz and need to settle some family probs only. About the resignation of dsz, no comments. Officially, he still there at the moment based on proton announcement. Other than that, no info. Sorry then.
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no comments means confirm liao la


Added on April 10, 2012, 7:28 pmdsz, should i cancel preve booking and wait for proton polo?


Added on April 10, 2012, 7:29 pmWell proton jetta also can leh

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QUOTE(37867 @ Apr 10 2012, 07:28 PM)
no comments means confirm liao la


Added on April 10, 2012, 7:28 pmdsz, should i cancel preve booking and wait for proton polo?


Added on April 10, 2012, 7:29 pmWell proton jetta also can leh
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I think he'll be going for sure. It's just that the news leaked too early and caught everyone by surprise, so Proton needed to issue something. They probably doing internal investigation now as to how the info got leaked.
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these is the bad news from proton. from 2000 i gave up proton car till start of 2008 which i slowly gain their trust when DSZ work on new model and improve QC.

Now as a malaysian, i only can pray the future CEO can continue current qualityand bring proton to another new level but not backward
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Now i'm not sure whether i'm supporting proton because of dsz or the brand itself... lol
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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Apr 10 2012, 08:31 PM)
these is the bad news from proton. from 2000 i gave up proton car till start of 2008 which i slowly gain their trust when DSZ work on new model and improve QC.

Now as a malaysian, i only can pray the future CEO can continue current qualityand bring proton to another new level but not backward
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i wonder why he has to resign when proton is improving. anyway, have to give him the credit, i think he deserve it.
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QUOTE(ma43q @ Apr 11 2012, 06:40 AM)
i wonder why he has to resign when proton is improving. anyway, have to give him the credit, i think he deserve it.
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DRB bought over the 42.7% share, sure they want to put their own man. Chairman changed, so next in line is CEO. DSZ tender resignation is better for him rather than being forced out. This May we will see new CEO..
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no comment comment is my own. Not dsz coz im nobody, not dsz n just a commoner like u guys. Just lucky get some info n sharing it with u guys like others too. Hope this clear :-).

Hopefully drb can tag along with him.
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I really hope that Datuk Syed Zainal won't go . Some of the reason why ppl wanting to buy the new Proton Preve is because they are confident of him increasing the quality of Proton cars .

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Finally ! Sad !

http://www.arenakereta.com/26/05/2012/saga...gas/#more-18615


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LATEST ! 26 MAY 2012


FROM Arena kereta website .

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Saga transformasi Proton & Lotus – Syed Zainal keluar dari Proton hujung bulan ini, Dany Bahar digantung dari menjalankan tugas

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Berita terbaru yang agak mengejutkan tetapi sudah dijangka mula tersebar di internet, di mana Pengarah Urusan Kumpulan Proton Holdings Berhad, Dato’ Sri Haji Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir akan melepaskan jawatannya di Proton mulai hujung bulan Mei ini. Berita tersebut menyusuli arahan penggantungan tugas CEO Group Lotus, Dany Bahar oleh pemilik barunya DRB-Hicom bagi menyiasat aduan salah laku yang dibuat terhadapnya. Berita tersebut telah disahkan oleh DRB-Hicom baru-baru ini.

Menurut laporan, penggantungan tugas Dany Bahar dibuat selaras dengan kajian semula operasi keseluruhan Group Lotus, dan semua kakitangan syarikat automotif terkenal British di Hethel, Norfolk itu telah dimaklumkan tentang arahan penggantungan tersebut. Walaupun tiada butiran lanjut berkenaan siasatan yang dijalankan, sumber dalaman menyatakan Dany Bahar akan kembali memainkan peranannya jika maklumat penyiasatan mendapati tiada sebarang kesalahan yang dilakukan. Setakat ini tidak pasti berapa lama tempoh siasatan akan berjalan.

Berikut ialah kenyataan rasmi dari DRB-Hicom kepada Norwich Evening News, “Group Lotus plc (“Lotus”) can today confirm that, following an operational review, chief executive Dany Bahar has been temporarily suspended from his role to facilitate an investigation into a complaint about his conduct made by Lotus’ penultimate parent company, DRB-Hicom Berhad. The penultimate holding company would like to stress it is business as usual at Lotus. We fully support the company and will continue to support Lotus in its business endeavours and development.”

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Sepanjang ketiadaan Bahar, DRB-Hicom telah menyerahkan tugasan menyelia hal ehwal Lotus kepada Dato’ Lukman Ibrahim, Mohd Khalid Yusof dan Aslam Farikulla, selain turut dibantu oleh CFO semasa, Rusman Zaihan. Dany Bahar menyertai Lotus pada bulan September 2009 setelah melepaskan jawatannya di Ferrari, dan melancarkan suatu program yang bercita-cita tinggi untuk melancarkan enam model serba baru dan menjadikan pengeluar kereta yang berpengkalan di Norfolk itu menjana keuntungan semula. Kesemua enam model serba baru dipersembahkan di Paris Motor Show 2010 yang lalu.

Pelan lima tahun Lotus setakat ini telah menyaksikan pembangunan model baharu Esprit, di samping pembangunan enjin dan kotak gear sendiri sejak 20 bulan yang lepas. Pada masa yang sama Lotus terus menambah baik barisan model semasa seperti Elise, Exige dan Evora. Bagaimanapun masa depan Lotus kelihatan agak terumbang-ambing setelah syarikat induknya Proton Holdings Berhad dijual kepada syarikat multinasional DRB-Hicom awal tahun ini.

Timbul persoalan ketika ini sama ada Dany Bahar akan dipecat dan digantikan dengan CEO baru dari kalangan kakitangan DRB-Hicom sendiri, atau Group Lotus bakal dijual kepada syarikat automotif luar bagi menjimatkan kos pengurusan dan mengurangkan kerugian yang ditanggung selama ini. Dato’ Sri Haji Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir yang selama ini menjadi inspirasi setiap model terbaru Proton pula bakal tiada sedikit masa lagi, menjadikan hala tuju Proton selepas ini kelihatan ‘kurang jelas’ momentumnya.

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oh no, mat79 really resign... sad.gif
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I was hoping he'd change his mind since the announcement a few months ago sad.gif
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It looks like the speculation made by The Edge last month about Proton MD Datuk Seri Syed Zainal Abidin resigning from his post has turned out to be true. Proton has just released a statement confirming Syed Zainal’s resignation. Here’s the statement in full

    Following a number of media queries, Proton Holdings Berhad today wishes to confirm the resignation of Datuk Seri Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir as the Group Managing Director of Proton Holdings Berhad, effective July 4, 2012.

    Syed Zainal has been with Proton for over six years and we are grateful for his contributions to the company. He has decided to leave Proton on his own accord to pursue his own interests and we respect his decision. We also wish to announce the resignation of Chief Financial Officer Azhar Othman from Proton, effective July 6, 2012. We wish them all the best in their future endeavours.

    Following the departure of Syed Zainal, the Executive Chairman of Proton, Datuk Seri Mohd Khamil Jamil, will continue his leadership role in steering the company forward.

We wonder who will replace Syed Zainal in the hot seat.


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From Funtasticko website.

Pesanan & amanat terakhir DSSZ kepada warga Proton

Saya nak kongsikan email yang dikirim oleh seorang shabat saya yang juga warga Proton. Ini adalah pesanan & amanat terakhir DSSZ kepada warga Proton sebelum menamatkan tugasnya sebagai bos mereka sebelum ini.

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Assalamualaikum, Salam Sejahtera dan Salam 1 Malaysia pada seluruh warga PROTON yang saya kasihi.

Semoga warkah saya ini bertemu saudara saudari dalam keadaan sihat sejahtera, ceria dan bersemangat tinggi dalam menjalankan tugas-tugas harian.

Seperti yang semua sedia maklum, saya telah pun melepaskan jawatan saya sebagai Pengarah Urusan Kumpulan PROTON berkuatkuasa 4hb Julai, 2012. Dengan mengambil kira cuti yang saya perlu habiskan, hari ini yakni Khamis 31hb Mei, 2012 adalah merupakan hari terakhir saya berada di PROTON secara fizikal.

Saudara saudari yang saya kasihi,

Terlalu berat untuk saya menulis surat ini sebagai penutup tirai kepada lebih enam (6) tahun perkhidmatan saya di PROTON. Berhari-hari saya mengadap skrin komputer yang kosong kerana ternyata tidak ada perkataan yang dapat menterjemahkan apa yang ada di lubuk hati saya. Bagaimana mungkin dapat saya melepas perginya sesuatu yang telah memberi impak yang dalam dan bermakna kepada kehidupan saya? Bagaimana mungkin dapat saya berjabat tangan dan mengucapkan selamat tinggal pada rakan-rakan yang sudah saya anggap sebagai ahli keluarga sendiri? Tiada ucapan yang dapat saya ungkapkan untuk mengucapkan ribuan terima kasih saya kepada setiap individu yang telah berusaha bersungguh-sungguh dalam membantu saya menjalankan tugas saya sekian lama. Tiada mampu dalam diri saya yang kerdil ini untuk membalas pengorbanan, kegigihan dan masa yang telah di curahkan oleh semua pihak dalam usaha merealisasikan impian PROTON tanpa mengenal lelah dan jemu.

Saudara saudari yang saya kasihi,

Apabila saya imbas kembali detik-detik perjalanan saya di PROTON, saya menganggap sayalah yang sebenarnya beruntung. Saya beruntung kerana dapat menerajui sekumpulan tenaga pekerja yang saya anggap permata-permata yang amat bernilai. Saya bersyukur kerana dipertemukan dengan sekumpulan warga Malaysia yang kental semangatnya. Tatkala masyarakat umum memberi persepsi negatif pada PROTON, saudara saudari masih bangun dinihari untuk ke kilang dengan penuh rasa bangga. Tatkala kita ditertawakan atas kesilapan lalu, saudara saudari menerima kritikan dengan sikap terbuka. Tatkala kita berada di bawah, saudara saudari bangkit dan menyahut cabaran perubahan. Semangat saudara saudari lah yang membakar semangat saya untuk terus berjuang memulihkan PROTON. Kematangan saudara saudari jualah yang telah mematangkan diri saya untuk berani mengambil pendekatan baru demi melonjakkan nama PROTON. Saya yakin berdiri di atas pentas kerana saya berdiri di atas keyakinan saudara saudari. Ternyata hari ini, saya lah yang kehilangan sesuatu yang besar nilainya. Bukan saudara saudari.

Saudara saudari yang saya kasihi,

Saya yakin saudara saudari akan meneruskan perjuangan ini dan mampu membawa nama PROTON ke tahap yang lebih tinggi. Saya percaya saudara saudari akan terus memberikan sokongan yang mampan walau dalam apa jua keadaan sekali pun. Segalanya tidak mustahil jika kita tanam keyakinan yang tinggi pada setiap sesuatu. Di mana ada kemahuan, disitu pasti ada jalan, Saya telah melihat kehebatan saudara saudari, jadi saya menyeru agar di teruskan kegigihan ini. Percayalah pada diri sendiri, kejayaan pasti memihak kepada saudara saudari dengan izinNya. Saya yakin dengan suntikan dan anjakan paradigma pengurusan baru, di bawah pimpinan YBhg Dato Sri Hj Mohd Khamil Jamil, PROTON akan terus meraih namanya di persada automotif, insyaallah.

Saudara saudari yang saya kasihi,

Sebagai manusia yang dhaif dan lemah dalam pelbagai aspek, saya menyusun sepuluh jari memohon kemaafan dari setiap warga PROTON atas segala keterlanjuran bahasa, tingkahlaku, makan minum, hak-hak saudara saudari yang tidak dapat saya sempurnakan sepanjang perkhidmatan saya di PROTON. Saya pasti terdapat banyak kekhilafan dan serba kekurangan dalam pentadbiran dan pengurusan saya, Yang baik itu datang dariNya, yang buruk itu adalah kelemahan saya sendiri. Saya mohon juga disampaikan kemaafan dan salam saya pada keluarga saudara saudari sekelian. Walaupun saya mungkin tidak berkesempatan bertemu dengan mereka, doa saya akan sentiasa mengiringi mereka.

Hukum alam menetapkan, setiap yang bermula pasti akan berakhir. Setiap pertemuan, pasti ada perpisahan. Walapun jauh dimata, PROTON akan tetap di hati saya. Saya akan sematkan ingatan dan pengalaman berharga ini jauh di lubuk hati saya. Semuga takdir mempertemukan kita semula dilain tempat, dilain masa, insyaallah.

Akhir kalam, saya memetik lirik dari nyanyian Faith Hill dari lakun layar Pearl Harbour dan kata-kata ini saya tujukan khas kepada semua warga kerja PROTON.

“There You’ll Be”

When I think back
On these times
And the dreams
We left behind
I’ll be glad ’cause
I was blessed to get
To have you in my life
When I look back
On these days
I’ll look and see your face
You were right there for me

In my dreams
I’ll always see you soar
Above the sky
In my heart
There will always be a place
For you for all my life
I’ll keep a part
Of you with me
And everywhere I am
There you’ll be
And everywhere I am
There you’ll be

Well you showed me
How it feels
To feel the sky
Within my reach
And I always
Will remember all
The strength you
Gave to me
Your love made me
Make it through
Oh, I owe so much to you
You were right there for me

‘Cause I always saw in you
My light, my strength
And I want to thank you
Now for all the ways
You were right there for me
You were right there for me
For always

Salam hormat dari saya,

Syed Zainal.

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