4b11 has the mivec, which in toyota lingo, dual vvti, but town drive can get around 10km/l only.

interested to see the cfe. but again, hard to compare la..if got turbo, sure very addictive 1.

i mean come on la, you buy new car, and drive below 2k rpm only ?

r u serious?

i mean like spend 70k on a new car, of coz you have to fully "ultilise" it, in term of RPMs.

otherwise why not just buy perodua Viva? certified fuel efficient car.

so why not tell us your Saga CVT fuel comsumption?

in term of RM0.xx/km?

so easy to compare and contract.

tq.

even 1.6A waja i think is around RM0.20/km for city drive, right?

yup, cfe just an old junk with old tech. Mivec, vtec n vvti are really uptodate engine. Thats why its so lame for vw when lancer launch with 4b11 with mivec technology, vw still using outdated ea113 without incorporate variable valve tech where the japs n koreans been using them for centurty(i think :-),he..he..), n recently ea888 has that, but then its too late, the japs already come out with valvematic. Direct injection is old tech, turbo also old. Only vtec, vvti, mivec@valvematic are the uptodate n latest tech :-).

Couple with old easyu 32 bit torque based ecu, where all japs n koreans been using in their cars for century. And using old cvt tech, where others are using torque converter based, dry clutch based, this punch using wet clucth based which is outdated. Same as old getrag manual gearbox, better stick to mitsu who is the maestro creating mivec for engine, so, gearbox must be full of awesomeness too.

Dun worry, prtn wont surpass them. Keep using the updated tech. No need to look at old junk euro 5 engine :-). Its nothing.

stable ride =/= 2000rpm okay.

RM0.17/km for your SAGA?

1.3Auto or manual? or 1.6???

then how much you predict for PREVE?

RM0.20/km??

Why peopel keep insist using RM to calculate FC... use liters lah...

How peopel know you using what Ron95 or 97?

U use liters peopel 10 yrs later come check thread also can use the info no matter what is the current petrol price in the world.

actually, what is so hard to calculate in km/l?

i believe it depends on how you drive. my old 12 years waja gets about 12.0 km/ l which is about 8.5L/ 100KM, plus it is a auto

that was why i was wondering how come CFE cannot do better?

while fc depend on right foot, the correct way of driving also influence ur fc. If u drive cvt like normal auto
, maybe u end up bad fc. If u take advantage of cvt characteristics, then, maybe u end up for better fc.

Like 4g18 in waja, the torque max at 2700rpm, town driving has better torque than campro engine,while hitting the dark spot on campro,really causing it having bad fc.

Not saying cfe @ iafm+ the best, but combo with cvt n 32bit torque based ecu, it is currently the best for prtn interm of balancing out power n fc.

Its main focus is more smooth power delivery rather than outright power. Efficient driving not only save fc, but give u the right power. In mixed mode, iafm+ 1.3 in saga may give u around 7.6+-L/100km n iafm+ 1.6 just around 8+-L/100km, depend on how u driving it. While preve being heavier, iafm+ just returning nearly the same as cfe in mix mode, but not really that much compare to flx se. That is the wonder of cvt, its tcu adapts itself according to weight, meaning the ratio, that being advantage of any cvt. Thats why the century sprint is not much differ that flx se.

If using old 4at,then it will be bad. Thats why in prius or even insight, they have eco mode driving aid, so that u can achieve better fc by controlling ur throttle. Its a good add if prtn add in its line coz its aid us to be coutious in driving,while saving fc n save the environment too.

ahhh... feels like wanna sell my FL n get this preve... the specs is too 

grow bigger balls and use larger fonts lah.

Wrong perception of "Rich people dont care how much they spend". Infact wealthy people care MORE on what they spend, how did u think they get rich in the first place?

IIRC, someone mentioned got filter in aircon...

dares: you 3 month review on saga flx don't sound good le. doesn't really instill confidence in preve. you mention they tweak the suspension harder in favor of better handling at the expense of comfort, then something about the cvt mounting, rear brake drum that takes several weeks to rectify and the usual quality issue like rattling...

wow so many ppl taking silver, should i take blue lagoon? haha.. scare the color very weird.. why they no special color one..

I think red color on Preve is the same color that had been used on Saga FLX.
Correct me if i wrong

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Added on April 10, 2012, 8:49 amanother i saw an article is that they say the CVT rev limit is 4k, but why HP specs written 138hp at 5k rpm?

now i have to say, 1st batch of preve should be better 

shit lor like tat..dsz aka mat79 resign..where got confident buy preve

under afta, same tax applied for asean makes. If local kena 85%, others also the same, even cbu from asean. Only cbu from non asean has 30% tax diff n ckd from non asean has 10% more. We are already in afta.

rumors : Proton plan to sell off Lotus to China Youngman

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/262208/

cant imagine where will the future proton stand without the support from Lotus Engineering...

so Y-family engines project gonna scrap too if this news is real?

haha, i looking for a dealership for test drive ><
anyone heading there for test drive? TT session

I booked mine at the Taman Pertama, Cheras dealer. The SA service is good as well

Second one! Me and Valence both booked there
Same as valence. The SA very very friendly.
The man himself! Our resident Gold "Pakcik"

I'm still deciding between the blue and silver. The red does seem tempting now though. Dammit. The white seems nice too. Haih. Decisions, decisions.

Awww. Don't be. We should organise a meet and bring our good friend dares along He deserves a VIP seat for being a TS for the prev version

dont be, coz later you can buy SE or LE of Preve, then we all envy u, got better variant