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 ㊕ ㊕(≧◡≦) ♠ ♠ ♠Proton Prevé V3♠ ♠ ♠(≧◡≦) ㊕ ㊕, ► Official Discussions for Proton Prevé

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Nightstalker1993
post Apr 17 2012, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(hanzanep @ Apr 17 2012, 04:48 PM)
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Did anyone notice this plastic cover. I'm quite surprise and hope anyone who know, why they put that?
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cosmetics. imagine how'd it look if they didn't. sweat.gif
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post Apr 17 2012, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(kenso77 @ Apr 17 2012, 04:47 PM)
5 years warranty or 150,000km
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btw, read your review on your blog. the bar in the engine bay is a strut bar, not anti-roll bar btw sweat.gif

wish i had your SA. that guy served me before last time when i was looking at the Saga a few months back. the indian sa really is quite inexperienced doh.gif

QUOTE(johnjenin @ Apr 17 2012, 04:51 PM)
bro. how to open the boot via remote? saw the key, only have lock, open and alarm button...
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QUOTE(valence @ Apr 17 2012, 04:54 PM)
press the second button and hold it for few seconds, it will release  biggrin.gif
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this.

didn't manage to try it though since he said it doesn't have the feature.
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post Apr 17 2012, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(ravi9907 @ Apr 17 2012, 04:54 PM)
Seriously, proton have to consider the pricing, the new hyundai elantra (avante) is selling in south korea from RM40,000 to RM52,000. If 90% of material is sourced from here, why is proton's price tag from RM60K. Check out this site http://www.automotifme.com/2011-hyundai-el...aavante-review/
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http://www.maa.org.my/info_duty.htm

because of this. Even Proton is charged with 85% tax. without tax the Preve would only cost around RM40k. ANd the new Elantra here is not 40-52k RM
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post Apr 17 2012, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Apr 17 2012, 04:56 PM)
Cause price of all cars are being jacked up by the govt to protect Proton.

So.... why sell Preve for RM40k when there are buyers even if you sell RM72k? Why cut your own profit margin...
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thats not true. its up to the dealers what price they want to put on what specs. Evil ones are like T&H RM90k for empty vios with 1 airbag. Good dealers are like Ford with their Fiesta. 85k can get you DSG gearbox, 5 star EuroNCAP safety rating, ABS, TCS, EBD, ESP, EBA and all other weird abbreviations you can throw in. Its up to the dealers really how much profit margin they want to give. a Hyundai Sonata for example, dealers are earning RM80k in terms of profit margin alone per vehicle sold. go figure.
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post Apr 17 2012, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Apr 17 2012, 05:01 PM)
I was under the impression P1/P2 get some tax incentive? Or i kena conned liao?
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everything is stated clearly on the site. import cars got CBU 30% tax while CKD cars got 10% tax and also the tax structure differs for different sized engine. what you believed all this while is wrong.


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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Apr 17 2012, 05:02 PM)
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rear also broken
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http://cforum4.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?...age%3D1&page=11
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the thing on the rear is not broken. I have no idea what that is but its a cover of some sort. the car at the proton branch nearby my house also have that cover but the first photo... seriously, how'd that happen? rclxub.gif

what he means by lcd can't display? isn't it clearly turned on in the photos? sweat.gif

seriously wondering whats that cover for though. on the rear deck got 3 of those.

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post Apr 17 2012, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(mr_boonez @ Apr 17 2012, 05:09 PM)
i wonder how the sales agent manage the crowd. i guess someone trying to create an issue here. 1 thing i notice, malaysians tak kisah pun pegi showroom proton ketuk kaw2 kereta everywhere, but when at Honda/Toyota/Nissan showroom..semua jadi polite. takde pulak knock here and there.
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yeah, yesterday when i sat in the car and closed the door to get a feel of the cabin. people around me keep opening and closing the door at least 10 times on the other 3 doors and knocking it all over doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post Apr 17 2012, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(mieza @ Apr 17 2012, 05:20 PM)
Just now I saw Preve on the road.. So I accelerate to potong him but he accelerate even faster.. LOL.. I was driving vios..
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time to change tongue.gif laugh.gif
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post Apr 17 2012, 05:30 PM

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btw, just now while test driving another thing gave off my SA's inexperience. he said the front using MacPherson Strut, rear using Multilink, a first for Proton doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post Apr 17 2012, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Apr 17 2012, 05:36 PM)
Denggggggg..... The engine tested not bad.... but the interior still have bad plastic material... the looks ok... engine components perhaps it is still acceptable but the interior material seems to be fail.... try to turn the steering and hold the signal hahahahahahahaha.... i cracked it.... after that it wont return to normal.... this shows that the signal mechanism is not using any spring perhaps using abs plastic design with spring effect...

conclusion, at this price i think it is good for those ppl wan to play play car.... but for those who want to have more comfort, piece of mind and free of modding.... perhaps get Audi or Volvo.. Vios hahaha forget it unless u goin to retire lols
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steven bored trolling online liao, now troll SA in real life laugh.gif

seriously how you broke it sweat.gif
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post Apr 17 2012, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 17 2012, 06:55 PM)
Just test drove earlier (If anyone saw a red Preve zipping through the Connaught highway at highspeed around 4-5pm, that's probably me  tongue.gif )

I think izputra has covered most of what I thought, I just like to add my piece re the engine performance.

Compared to my FLX SE, the 1k-2k RPM (before the turbo kicks in) is really sluggish, as if the 1.6 NA is struggling to move the car. The CVT is probably to blame, but nonetheless it's there.

As said before, after 2k the turbo kicks in and that's where the car really starts to move. In D gear, the transition is smooth, almost unnoticable, BUT once you hit 2K and decides to release the pedal, the car jerks pretty hard due to engine braking, this could affect driving comfort in stop and go traffic. Also, the CVT seems reluctant to go to higher RPM, I would press the pedal hard and somehow the car decides to stay at 2k RPM, I was like WTFISTHISSHIT.

The real fun is when you use the paddle shifters. In this mode the cars feel utterly alive and so much more responsive than in D. Whereas in D the RPM rises very slow, with the paddle shifters you can simply downshift and off it goes. This part was by far the most satisfying part of the test drive.

I pity those who bought the IAFM+ variant, because they too will encounter the same sluggish response from 1k-2k RPM, except the 205Nm will never come, ever. So if you are going for the IAFM+, please do yourself a favour and get the manual instead.

Also, unbelievably, the dashboard rattled halfway through my test drive  doh.gif
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90% of my test drive, the car was in S mode, didn't really try out the D. Dissapointed in the paddle shifters. Spoiled by the feel of a DSG's pedal shifter i guess sweat.gif
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post Apr 17 2012, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 17 2012, 07:37 PM)
good2, so many comments. If not mistakenlah, full manual mode need to push to side the lever. Erm, about the crack signal stalk, is it crack or sound crack coz u still hold the stalk even after turning the steering, n dont go back normal, is it means that the signal stalk not return back to neutral postion. If that the case, normal, not broken. But if physically crack, then its abnormal.

Centre console button near h u some are indicators only, not button.

About rattles, i think need to check whether come from the un properly closed glove box or the compartment near the driver's side,under the steering. Being subject of abuse, u knowlah,ha...ha...,but its good to abuse coz then know bleh tahan atau x, either hard way or the highway,ops sorry, malaysian way :-).

I think prtn listen to all the comments. Just my thought.

Even some saying interior mcm taik, langgar yellow line gegar mcm kancil sbb pkai oem kayaba cap ayam, xpkai gab absorber(wow, gab, honda used gab kot, he..he..just joking), i think,they accept it all as feedback for improvements.
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of course DSZ will listen to our comments whistling.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Apr 17 2012, 08:01 PM)
Interior is serviceable, definitely looks more expensive than RM72k. My main peeve is still with the center console and the HU. Sigh, this is where it becomes evident that Proton can give you a great overall package, but always overlooked the details.
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well, at least the HU is quite usable. i see theres a traffic info button on the HU as well sweat.gif
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post Apr 17 2012, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Apr 17 2012, 09:29 PM)
i tough the audio system speaker are blaupunk! saw some picture before
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head unit Bosch, speakers Blaupunkt ma

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still prefer the stock waja's Clarion speakers. one of the best stock sound system i've heard thumbup.gif

QUOTE(MrssV @ Apr 17 2012, 09:30 PM)
dafuq!!
hahaha. kidding.
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you made me LMAO there laugh.gif

QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Apr 17 2012, 09:45 PM)
I remember when I drove my cousin's Mini Cooper last month, the pedal was less responsive too. About 1 second delay, which I hate BADLY!
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well I test drove a Polo GTI with 180bhp on a 1.4 turbocharged + supercharged engine and the lag is about the same. can't really expect old school car's response from drive by wire tech + turbo. So is the Polo GTI crappy now? hmm.gif
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post Apr 17 2012, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Apr 17 2012, 09:55 PM)
What does that mean?
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instead of a cable that connects the pedal directly to the butterfly valve in the throttle body, the pedal is connected to a sensor to detect the throttle input and opens and closes the butterfly valve using a servo motor. That my friend, is drive by wire.
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post Apr 17 2012, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Apr 17 2012, 10:15 PM)
I see. The Preve lag isn't because of this right? It's because of the engine/CVT?
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its just how it works. drive by wire + turbo definitely will have lag especially if start from zero.

QUOTE(JarodLeong @ Apr 17 2012, 10:18 PM)
the lag can be save by tuning the mapping? got such thing ma?
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even the Polo GTI have lag, don't see whats wrong with it as long as its not too bad. If want to try extreme lag, try the Savvy AMT doh.gif
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 17 2012, 10:39 PM)
probably an internal wastegate... but its all shielded. how you manage to see? only the actuator is visible...
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Proton Power Of One event? They had the engine there on its own stand and best part is the engineers could start it.

Turbo is a Borg Warner model KP-39, same turbine used in Audi and VW's 1.9 turbodisel TDI engine.

QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Apr 17 2012, 10:40 PM)
Yes, anyone who have driven gti or cooper before would know how it feels. The difference between preves lag and the other 'common turbos' is the power that comes after that. People tend to ignore the lag because of the power that 'pushes you back to your seat'. As for preves, I don't think you'll be getting that from what i read through the reviews here, thus making people feel its sluggish and laggy. The power u get from a stock golf gti is pretty scary as Ull burn ur tires just by flooring it. One of my favorite activities when I'm driving my friends gti brows.gif
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well the Polo GTI is the only car i've driven that have similar specs with the preve in the sense that it's using drive by wire technology and it have a turbocharger. the Preve's acceleration isn't that bad. the acceleration is good, but the change in acceleration is the thing that you really feel, and since they Preve's engine have a pretty flat torque output mated to a 'flat' CVT, it kinda gets boring in there sweat.gif
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 17 2012, 10:48 PM)
I know what turbo model n brand it was using smile.gif
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well, just stating it here since they didn't really publicise it plus i doubt many people here knows about it laugh.gif

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