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simon3041
post Jul 2 2012, 08:12 PM

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Greeting guys! finally i found this thread, and it is kind of useful for me biggrin.gif

- My ride: Perodua Kancil
- Prefers SQ/SPL/SQL: Prefer SPL, but SQL also can
- File format/medium used for my source: mp3~ Usb~ Pendrive~
- Music genre: Bass Bass bass!!! biggrin.gif Pitbull songs~
- Budget: RM1000 < x < RM500
- Setup type preferences: errrmmm donno wat's this... sorry
- Other requirements (if any): i am kind of crazy guy.. love heavy bass, newbie in choosing brand of subwoofer and amp~

thanks a lot guys~ biggrin.gif
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post Jul 3 2012, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 3 2012, 10:59 AM)
maybe look into rockford (assuming original) amp or monoblock + woofer and be done with it? maybe their component set too

it will definitely be over rm1k though
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rockford = brand ? so how can i buy it? i mean is there any specifications? biggrin.gif please give me more details, i am so noob in this... haha notworthy.gif sweat.gif
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post Jul 3 2012, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 3 2012, 12:06 PM)
google rockford fosgate
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all rite thanks, on my way... any pros and cons?

Edit : (i googled.. went to the main website, there is many terms tat i don't understand though, hahha so which model i need to look for,bro) laugh.gif

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post Jul 4 2012, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(izso @ Jul 4 2012, 06:49 AM)
I tell you what dude, since you're really newbie to this, why don't you just say how much you plan on spending and we'll tell you what you can and cannot buy.

Personally if you're a basshead, practically almost any speaker set you can find will suite your requirements except perhaps those 'immitation/cheap' brands.


Added on July 4, 2012, 6:51 am

I'm a little opposed to this theory. Perhaps 2ohm and 4ohm setup subs may not sound that different, but I've played around with 8ohm subs and 1ohm setups, very different la. I don't like 8ohm!
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hahaha. thanks so much brah for the help. my budget is RM1k My audio in car is everything stock. include player... sweat.gif if more than 1k, it's okay too.. i have been riding with others, i found out tat i heard vibrating sound when the bass is too much, basically from the doors, laugh.gif okay, bro, please recommend me some brand? smile.gif my location is kuching... whenever i ask my fren, wat i get is >>> Buy a subwoofer and amp for around RM400 then u got ur bass. lol shakehead.gif
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post Jul 4 2012, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 4 2012, 02:46 PM)
- need sound proofing

- its not as simple and cheap as that. especially you want quality/quantity of bass smile.gif
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yeah, i saw a thread abt sound proofing~ this right?
Anyway~ Bro, tat's wat i am talking abt.. i wan quality~ but i am new, i scared kena cheat when i am going to buy the subwoofer + amp later.. and should i change the speaker at the door side thr? and behind? smile.gif gotta need more advice from ICE sifus~ Thank you in advance notworthy.gif
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post Jul 4 2012, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 4 2012, 03:45 PM)
yeah that thread is a good reference material.

for full set ICE, want good bass, you're looking to at least 3-4k++

rear speakers no need touch, focus on front component set + HU + amp (4channel to drive both comp set and woofer) and of course a sub woofer, 12" ported sub.
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biggrin.gif brows.gif tat's sweet... If we talking abt 2k < x <1k is it ok?
Front component set is wat? player? HU is wat? O.O any web tat i can learn more abt tat? Sometimes cant google the right thing..

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post Jul 4 2012, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 4 2012, 03:58 PM)
under 2k, chicken brand no problem.

component set = speakers

a pair of tweeters and 6.5" mid/mid bass 2 way setup (3 way = tweeters + mid + mid bass)

HU = head unit, the player, be it cd or usb
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lolololol... okay brah, wat brand u recommend for chicken brand btw? XD

I see. can u basically list out the price budget for each component? gonna list down.. smile.gif

usb one better for HU biggrin.gif

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post Jul 4 2012, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 4 2012, 04:27 PM)
cant help you there bro. i dont really look into chicken brands laugh.gif
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LOLOLOL

Thanks for the help by the way, brah.. hahaha waiting some sifu who know chicken brand laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Jul 4 2012, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 4 2012, 06:59 PM)
im talking from an everything brand new no fuss no scouting/patience point of view.

because honestly, time is also money to me, time wasted to scout, and deal with potential issues acquiring 2nd hand (eg: worn drivers, or problematic boards/amp/HU/caps etc) are time wasted and time = money. hell, if eventually you have to replace them sooner than their supposed lifespan (eg: buying brand new) that also directly mean losing money.

preference/perspective. if his budget mentioned that he is willing to go for 2nd hand/used items, obviously i would reply similarly the way you did

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you know what, let me update the first post template. so people on budget can specify as well if they willing to go for used items
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:DDDD Another post to analyse XD... shocking.gif hahaha... nice one sifu.. anyway, lets do economy report for myself 1st trolololol... FIY, i am modding a completely stock kancil XD.... upgrade the audio system is the first thing i hav in mind XD Well, i think~ thumbup.gif


Added on July 4, 2012, 7:51 pm
QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Jul 4 2012, 04:35 PM)
You can try Mohawk thou.

Since you like bass only, so I won't go detail into the sound lar.

2K should be ok, I guess. Change from HU (since you only need USB) to speakers to amp tp sub.

Detail price, sorry no idea. You will need to survey yourself with the budget in mind.

This is not cap ayam. This is cap Mohawk!    brows.gif
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hmmm... mohawk sound q how le? hmm.gif
Don't understand (Change from HU (since you only need USB) to speakers to amp tp sub.)
O.O
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Added on July 4, 2012, 7:52 pm
QUOTE(krayden @ Jul 4 2012, 05:20 PM)
Isnt there a KCH Icer group? Maybe they can reco a better installer and whatever is available there.
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yeah, any kuching ice sifu here? my location also at kuching,might be can ask suggestion from him

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post Jul 4 2012, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(izso @ Jul 4 2012, 05:47 PM)
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oh no, cannot understand a single thing abt the red thing.. haha only can understand cables, bass, amps, and subwoofer...

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huhuh.... anyway, DIY installation seems impossible for a noob like me ... sad.gif

hahahaha,yup i don't hav gf since i am born.. born to be forever alone,,
seems like i can start dampening my kancil... now it's totally stock, i need to mod it inside out... exterior and interior... everything.. hmmm, ok Rainbow SLX speaker how much? wow, sadly i at miri now, cant try out ur myvi. By the way, wat's under ur hood? K3vet? biggrin.gif ok, hav to save how much for 4channel amp and sub? and wat's the diff with channel?

Ok, i will try the SQ+ bass 1st... thank you sifu for enlighten my path, by the way, kancil with ICE, will it look over?

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post Jul 5 2012, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(izso @ Jul 5 2012, 09:03 AM)
HU = Head Unit = your player.

In KL the Rainbow SLX is about RM800 give or take. My Myvi has the stock HU connected to the Rainbow SLX component set and that's it. I recently added an active subwoofer under the seat and that's all I plan to do to the car. My Myvi is pretty much stock inside and out.

DIY installation is quite simple once you understand how things are connected and how they work. Do you know how to strip the interior of your Kancil?
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thumbup.gif Thanks for the help sifu.. i see.. Erm, So i prepare 1k for the Rainbow SLX which i think kuching price mayb higher or cannot be found... laugh.gif erm,, subwoofer under the seat? why is it not at the back? Hmmm... btw, which interior u mean? door? u mean sound proof the kancil? Or the wiring thingy for the audio? hmm.gif


Added on July 5, 2012, 10:53 am
QUOTE(metaloid @ Jul 5 2012, 10:00 AM)
Kuching person here. im not a sifu by any means but i do know where to buy what stuff or brand. Unfortunately Rainbow is very hard to find here or none is selling atm.
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Good, finally a kuching dude here... notworthy.gif Hmmm, so really cant find tat Rainbow brand? if order? where to buy car accessories in kuching? Thai soon ka? wat place to find reasonable price for rims, tyres, audio systems, and half cut? brows.gif

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but i do know where to buy what stuff or brand


this is good, XD we need to keep in touch~ notworthy.gif

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post Jul 5 2012, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(metaloid @ Jul 5 2012, 01:39 PM)
Dont worry it dosent have to be rainbow. There are good brands here that can be as good. Btw Thai soon is a nono for me. Can pm me for more detailed stuff smile.gif
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post Jul 6 2012, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(izso @ Jul 5 2012, 08:57 PM)
Aisay.. I was just using Rainbow SLX as an example. Just find a high sensitivity component set.
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any more brand / model of high sensitivity component set recommended? hahaha nod.gif notworthy.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 9 2012, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(hans18 @ Jul 6 2012, 10:56 PM)
get 2nd hand morel, dyns,scans  ,dls etc. if u near sibu can make appointment to audit my ice smile.gif
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shocking.gif shakehead.gif apa itu morel. dyns and scans , dls? lolololol... i am currently at miri, will be at kuching soon.. :/


Added on July 9, 2012, 7:05 pm
QUOTE(izso @ Jul 9 2012, 06:55 AM)
When you survey for components check out the sensitivity, usually measured in decibels (dB). Anything higher than 90 should suffice.


Added on July 9, 2012, 6:58 am

I smell poison. Anaconda level poison.  laugh.gif

Morel, Dynaudios, Scanspeaks, DLS all need powerful amps to run them otherwise they'll sound crappy. But I do agree with hans18, buying these 2nd hand and slowly building up your ICE is better than jumping into an entry level setup and upgrading every 2 months
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ok noted... so buy a HU for first step is it correct? lol rclxub.gif

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post Jul 12 2012, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(izso @ Jul 9 2012, 09:38 PM)
No, I personally think HU is last. But to be honest though, the output is only as good as its source, so HU upgrade should provide a difference in sound. But I suggest to do this last cuz the speakers need to be in place and the amps too, then once that's done upgrade the source (HU) and it'll be like "WHOA" difference in terms of SQ
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thank you for the help.. i see... ok, then i hav to look for speakers 1st... hmm.gif


Added on July 12, 2012, 9:29 pm
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 9 2012, 10:16 PM)
good and valid pointers, personally though i would go with HU + component set path. but of course depends on your existing HU and the functions you need/want.

for my case, 12 years old proton stock HU = cassette, so.. yeah. no matter how you want it, you're getting a HU replacement first for sure, thus HU + component set then amp + sub path
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my HU kancil 04 one i think lol... ><

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