Microsoft to use BD for its next-gen console? Ha ha ha... don't make me laugh... no seriously. It doesn't matter what source it is but I don't see how Microsoft is going to do this. I am thinking some kind of SSD / removable storage device but not BD.

If Microsoft does use BD, that will be a major wow moment in the history of the company. No, not just because it is "Sony" but simply because Microsoft always does things their own way.

My expected release : Late 2013

2013 will be like the "last year" for Xbox 360. If there is no show at E3 2012, you bet it will be in E3 2013.

Check out the updates section. Confirmation of release date and existence of BD drive in the console. So i guess you could start/stop laughing?

This post has been edited by emperor_kiva: Apr 3 2012, 08:17 AM

Confirmation on a product Microsoft has yet to officially announce, buddy? Everything is speculation at this point no matter the news source.

LOL you call that confirmation?

this is internet man, everything must be true！

actually most of our games are below the size of 8.5gb i think it is still able to fit in like a pendrive/sd card, the only problem is the reading speed.

why worry what's inside or outside? i will worry if i got money to buy or not if i want to play.

money sure got 1, it wont be too expansive until its unafordable. now lets hope xbox live comes to malaysia at the sametime.

Lol fine. My mistake in calling that confirmation then Im just eager to see the "next -gen" come out. Not necessarily going to buy ,just excited that times are moving forward.

BD is not like impossible.. Xbox tryin to turn into a entertaiment machine in US, remember those netfix and those TV stuff, the main aim for the bluray may not be for game after all, it may design for movie instead.

MS won't be able swallow their pride by adapting a technology from enemy camp,
plus current direction is for entertainment machine like you say,
putting a bluray drive into it is the least effective way of generating revenue
as MS will have to pay royalties for each bluray drive, plus there's no profit (to MS) from the user playing bluray movie using the console.
revenue will only came in from hardware sales, which takes a long long time to break even

but for the VOD or cable services like HBO, UFC, netflix... MS do get a share of the profits from those service supplier
and it's way more flexible to add or remove a service, and almost any bluray content can be found on VOD service.

i seem to agree with what greyshadow said.

in terms of business, MS is trying a different approach in distribution, by relying on DD. I believe a lot of developers are lobbing for that idea, but most gamers dont.

but i do speculate that next console would have swap-able optical drive and the media could be both DD and retail flashcards. MS is targeting at $400 - $500 launch day pricing, so optional optical drive seems like a good reason.

This post has been edited by y3ivan: Apr 4 2012, 10:15 AM

The existing Kinect already got on-board computer (processor, memory, etc) that handles all the detection, here's the teardown,

Kinect Teardown

So I'd say one of the rumor outlet mentioned can be dismissed already. And actually there's a case of offloading all the processing to the console, but that's not XBOX360. It's actually Playstation Move for the PS3. So obviously this rumor is made out of thin air without any credibility whatsoever.

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That's not the sketch of next gen XBOX at all. It's actually a sketch of first generation XBOX concept. Notice the controller cables which is tinted green in the drawing.

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If that's all then I am disappointed. Even the current Radeon chip is more than 12-times as massive (in terms of transistor count) compared to the custom Radeon GPU in XBOX360, and that's not even counting that its clock rate is twice as fast. Plus it also comes in dualcore configuration.

So if 6 times than XBOX360 is something to be proud of, current gen PC is already miles ahead. So I don't see that number to be right. Another one "fact" pulled out of thin air.

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btw, Durango should only be its codename, since the real name will most likely pops up as its unveiling nears. Well, that's the job of microsoft's marketing department. Even 1st gen and 2nd gen XBOXes got their codenames too, and Kinect is codenamed Project Natal in its development.

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Added on April 8, 2012, 9:49 amNot necessarily true.

You see, the reason why MS pass on using bluray previously is that the licensing cost is super steep, plus the cost to implement is too high at that time. Ask around people who bought standalone bluray player and they'll let you know that it cost them thousands, so that's why PS3 is considered as "trojan horse" for bluray media distribution. Even Sony who also owns the license lose a lot for each of hardware being made.

Well, time changes. Licensing cost has already brought down significantly, and it's now a de-facto standard for high capacity optical disc. No more disc wars, of which MS was on HD-DVD camp at that time. Even Toshiba, the company which is the major backer of the format, swallowed its pride and manufacture bluray players. It's a very different time now, with cost of pressing the discs already becomes so small.

You see, the reason is always the cost. And with the cost being brought down significantly, there's no reason for MS to not use it. It's not very much of pride issue.

So it's either MS employs bluray, or they ressurect HD-DVD for the sole purpose of content protection. They won't go SSD, since it's superduper expensive.

This post has been edited by LaskarCinta: Apr 8 2012, 09:51 AM

@Laskar cinta,

Thanks for the breakdown. The info in this thread should be deemed as speculation unless otherwise confirmed by Microsoft themselves.

I understand that rumors are the currency here. well, some are plausible (e.g removed tweet by that crytek person) while lots are downright wrong.

take example on the supposely new kinect rumor. the earlier version already got dedicated SoC to do the processing job, making that new kinect rumor pretty much valueless.

This post has been edited by LaskarCinta: Apr 8 2012, 10:45 PM

hardly doubt they will be any new kinect. The current kinect hasnt fully utilized.

This post has been edited by y3ivan: Apr 9 2012, 10:14 AM

Xbox 720 to Pack 16-Core Processor and Two GPUs

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/325268/2...e-processor.htm




Rumor has been going that both the PS4 and Xbox 720 are rumored to use AMD Radeon's 7000 series GPU.

uh oh, even the news page got typo on the "Randeon" moniker.

I don't want to be a grammar nazi here, it's just that by having the name correctly written means that they are dead serious on the story, and at least having a bit knowledge on the IT stuff. That will add credibility to the story.

about drawing different items simultaneously, if it's parallel draw that they'd realy mean, then current hardware on a computer can already do that. btw it's not the most optimal way for a single GPU to work like that since performance will got hampered. But of course that's not a problem for a multi-GPU solution, and even existing single GPU package that got multicore configuration can do that (e.g. Radeon HD 7990).

btw about the quote from CD Projekt RED person, it doesn't mean anything actually. They are really new to the XBOX360 environment (Witcher 2 : Enhanced Edition). So what they'd really mean is that the transition to newer gen supposedly won't affect them much since they've done shifting from PC to current xbox just fine for a game. Nothing much of a news, really.

This post has been edited by EatMe: Apr 9 2012, 07:03 PM

Is Sony coming up with any new model to counter Microsoft?

Sony must be insanely stupid if they don't do that.

Official Playstation 4 (Orbis) Thread

This post has been edited by emperor_kiva: Apr 11 2012, 03:00 PM