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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.15, Get your D800/D4 now !

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post Apr 7 2012, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Apr 6 2012, 08:49 PM)
@jchue73

Can you please post up a pic of your D800 rear LCD with other camera like D700, d7000 or D3S? I got my D800 last week, and it was plagued with the green tint on LCD. Now it's back to Nikon service centre. Mine also seem to suffer from bad backfocusing issue too
I believe from looking, mine's has a very slight green tint too. I'll try and post a pic. But nothing that really worries me like a back focus. How bad was yours? I did check my D800 with a 24mm f/1.4 and a 35mm f/1.4 at f/1.4 in low light conditions. Seems it does not have backfocus or focusing problems when using the left side AF as far as I can tell.

QUOTE(metsatsu @ Apr 7 2012, 08:57 AM)
nope. RM9380 smile.gif

But now it's not with me sad.gif it was sent back to the shop so they can send it to Nikon for inspection because of the yellow LCD and AF issue sad.gif
Yellow or green tint? Woow, 9380 is a very good price.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 7 2012, 11:29 AM)
Best I can get is RM9500 so far... and stocks limited... Maybe I should make a trip to Penang later on to grab one xD...

I want the D800... sad.gif I went BIMS and no video feature on the D700 -->  cry.gif
9500 is not bad what... I went to Thailand not knowing a lot of features on the D800. Too new. Not used the video yet too.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 7 2012, 12:19 PM)
Bangkok girls are friendly biggrin.gif

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Yes indeed.My friends are already making plans for next year ! laugh.gif

Hey, which booth were these girls from?

QUOTE(yankiat @ Apr 7 2012, 12:20 PM)
Indeed they are and much more prettier than the show girls here tongue.gif
Yes, unfortunately girls over there seem to be are more beautiful. wub.gif

QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 7 2012, 12:25 PM)
Key point is... friendly! I don't know any of them, and yet they layan me. For any events in Malaysia, I get these type of shots because I know the girls.
+1 Such a pleasure shooting makes all the trip and effort worth it.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 7 2012, 12:43 PM)
aiyah, know or not also doesnt matter.
they are all paid to smile at ppl... tongue.gif
Over there, I read they get paid somewhere about RM 200 to RM 500 per day. I don't know how much girls get paid over here.

QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Apr 7 2012, 01:18 PM)
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Nice pose but I have a feeling that too much skin smoothening applied.

QUOTE(PADUK @ Apr 7 2012, 03:12 PM)
but all no stock liao, nikon sucks le
i see 5dmk3 stock banyak
Yes, 5DMkIII stock berlambak !
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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Apr 7 2012, 05:35 PM)
btw, is your D800's serial start with 8000xxx to 8001xxx?
8000xxx. Yours? Does it make a difference?

QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 7 2012, 05:47 PM)
They're from Isuzu  laugh.gif I was searching high and low where they are from, one of the pix can see the background LOL. Phew.
Ok. Somehow missed them. sad.gif

QUOTE(jingyong @ Apr 7 2012, 06:31 PM)
Hi all sifu, I just bought my new D5100 2 days back smile.gif I wonder how come the lens 55-200mm is relatively cheaper compared to those 70-200mm?
The 70-200mm is a f/2.8 lens. Lets in more light than the 55-200mm.
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QUOTE(mmohdnor @ Apr 12 2012, 12:38 PM)
I tried that a couple of times ..but kinda frustrated ...
Summore got other laptop/computers to do it also.
Hope to do it the proper way and have all other colors, contrast, brightness, etc tuned properly also.
Buy a reasonable one should be fine. Even though obsolete, my Eyeone Display 2 still serves me well. Got it in 2007.

QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Apr 12 2012, 05:11 PM)
goldfries asked me, "Why do you want to calibrate your monitor? Only you yourself are seeing if you do not do prints. Others will have to calibrate if they want to enjoy the same image quality as you do."
I find that reply funny. It's like asking why do you need perfect vision for your eyes... It's because I like to see things correctly !

QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Apr 12 2012, 08:31 PM)
17-55 2.8, 18-100, 18-200
Got such a thing as 18-100? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 12 2012, 10:08 PM)
Putting that aside... I'm anticipating for your images from Bangkok... wanna see full size too... D800's 36MP glory!
Ah... Clever to steer back to a hot topic ! I thought I can avoid a bit. Been very busy meeting datelines till no time to be online. I'll try and post a few.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 12 2012, 10:08 PM)
My friend just came back from China with shots taken on his D800... doesn't look impressive sad.gif I'm losing interest... come on let me see some great stuff.
What kind of pics he takes? What lenses does he have? The D800 has a lot of tech in there and if you overdo it, the pics look a little flat.

Anyway, to be honest with you, I felt I could have gotten more keepers with the D700. The D800 is very sensitive to camera shake so much so if I'm shooting at 200mm, I need 1/400s to get consistant results. Perhaps people with more steady hands and VR can do better. Secondly, I found the first day was a little bit of a letdown. Trying to find the best settings on a new camera is not easy.

QUOTE(hkenh @ Apr 12 2012, 10:19 PM)
actually the difference on screen is subtle la. . . unless you have two identical frame of shots taken with the cameras
it's only when you print a large final image that can you can appreciate the improvement the new camera gives you, even then it depends what are you shooting.

but of cos, other than the IQ, there's many new added features for the better experience of the photographers that final images can't tell.

if one just show a 2MP picture I bet no one can tell it's a D800 from a D700. It's doesn't do magic or makes a picture taken with an already amazing D700 suddenly look incomparable.
Don't know leh... But taking pics from the D700 and the D800 and resizing them to the same size, I find the D800 pics has a little more zing to it. Perhaps that's just me. I'll try and post last year's Bangkok photos. Their lighting didn't change much. In fact, the placement of car manufacturers in the hall almost the same as last year !

Anyway, the details on the D800 pics is scary. When focus is spot on, everything can be seen. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(hkenh @ Apr 12 2012, 10:48 PM)
i posted once  tongue.gif . . . have been busy preparing my for my final year in uni so it's been long since I last went out to shoot.
not yet own the D800, at first plan to get one this month, but with all the issue and it seems like they stop sending new stocks for now (probably dealing with all the issue reported?), I'll probably get it by June just to hope they sorted out the AF (I don't bother about the green tint, it's the AF that is worrying because I shoot lots of wide angle shots).  icon_rolleyes.gif
I did a quick test and indeed there is a problem with the left side AF when shooting with the 24mm f/1.4 at f/1.4 and the 14-24mm f/2.8 at f/2.8 near MFD. Need to investigate more because DoF is so thin when the subject is so close. More often than not, just a slight movement of the subject or the hand will get the subject OOF.

QUOTE(hkenh @ Apr 12 2012, 10:48 PM)
for the IQ, I've been looking everywhere that has pro photog posted pictures with D800. But seriously, if not for the EXIF reader they could have posted pictures taken with D90, D3, D700 and I won't have a clue it's not from D800.
That's true. You will only appreciate the resolving power of the D800 when viewing 100% on the monitor. I don't print billboards but then again, I see the huge MP as an advantage because when reduced, the noise and details is far far better than the D700.

QUOTE(hkenh @ Apr 12 2012, 10:48 PM)
the one new features I like a lot is the new metering and face detection. I shoot loadsa streets photo and with D700 a lot of time it underexposed the face of the subject and by the time u realized you've missed the moment. But I have yet to hands on one though, so not sure how good is it. All I know now are from info and views of those who have used it.
Metering and focus is good. Better than D700. Yet to try the face detection. I read it's only available in LV mode? I may be wrong.

QUOTE(hkenh @ Apr 12 2012, 10:48 PM)
but if i really bought it, it's because my hand really itchy rather than it will improve the IQ of my image. hahahaha because not like i'll print 40'' size or larger for all my pictures anyway laugh.gif
That's true. I do miss the faster fps on the D700. At some points, I shot the D800 continuously and after like 100 shots of so, I noticed that it was quite warm to touch. It is as if I put the camera in the car for an hour under the hot sun.

QUOTE(iloveOov @ Apr 13 2012, 02:39 PM)
spam today pic...my new toy...biggrin.gif

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Woow ! Congrats... I thought the E would only come out much later? I guess not.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 14 2012, 01:01 AM)
I think these location best to use flash... just like when I was at BIMS2012, flash yields better results.
Agreed.
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QUOTE(gnome @ Apr 14 2012, 01:14 AM)
Speaking of D800...shinchan sent me this photo the other day

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Is it anyone from lolyat? laugh.gif
LOL I never like to use my original straps that comes with the camera body. All my original straps are never used. My D300 and D700 (as with D800 too) straps are still unused. Still in wraps in the box like the day I got it.

QUOTE(hkenh @ Apr 14 2012, 01:55 AM)
Yeah, one thing I like a lot is details. I love to see DETAILS!  tongue.gif
And the power of the sensor in enabling one to capture all the details and resolution makes you feel the money invested in expensive glass money well spent.  laugh.gif
Yes, exactly. Something like trying to see what kind of details your current lens lineup can resolve. Surprising that my "old" 135mm f/2 and 85mm f/1.4D can still do. Screw driven lenses are quite snappy and lively on the D800.

QUOTE(hkenh @ Apr 14 2012, 01:55 AM)
I read, you need to switch it on thru liveview but after that you can shoot it thru viewfinder and it will detect the face, which is great with backlit situation.
I need to RTFM one of these days when I'm on the throne (toilet bowl). smile.gif

QUOTE(hkenh @ Apr 14 2012, 01:55 AM)
hehe, I seriously don't bother with fps. I shoot single shot mode all the time on my D700. Frankly, never once used CL or CH on the D700 for shooting(use it just to test it works rclxms.gif ). So I really can't relate to the fuss of 4fps is too slow etc by all the ppl.  rclxm9.gif
I keep it on CH but I burst 2 or 3 at most depending. Useful especially in situations when you cannot communicate with your Thai subjects to do this and that post or tell them to repeat that position since the first frame was accidentally cropped off the head / hand... icon_question.gif

QUOTE(hkenh @ Apr 14 2012, 01:55 AM)
or maybe it already auto detect faces without doing anything. Does it frame the face when you playback the pictures?
No. In playback mode, you can just view the focus point you used.

QUOTE(hkenh @ Apr 14 2012, 01:55 AM)
oh. . .apparently need to be in AF-C and Auto-area AF for it to work smile.gif
wow. . . some even says no more the need of focus and recompose!!!
I think you still need to. The AF focus layout is similar to D700 and it's concentrated in the middle.

QUOTE(ifer @ Apr 14 2012, 05:20 PM)
One thing that makes me perk up is the fact that you mention of downsizing a 36mp camera to 12mp. Please pardon my ignorance but why wouldayone want to do that? Why don't just get the D7000 then?
Depends on who's using the D800... You're a working professional. Most people are serious enthusiast and likelihood of WANTING to print 36MP is not something you would want on a daily basis.

It's just like having a Lambo for your daily drive. Not so convenient with maintenance, pot holes etc but nice to have. If someone says, hey let's head for the track, you'd won't be out of place !

QUOTE(gnome @ Apr 14 2012, 10:58 PM)
errr...i thought its normal? unsure.gif 70200 only wor...not 300 or 400mm laugh.gif
Yup. Some people are armed with handholding the 300mm f/2.8.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 14 2012, 10:59 PM)
ya 70-200 small lens.
on friday i saw some tryhard with a sigma and it looked like a 100-300 f/2.8.
If it's a Sigma, it's 120-300mm f/2.8. 100-300mm is an f/4 only lens.

QUOTE(nanogen @ Apr 15 2012, 01:11 AM)
haha..ya..jawsus is still using his sony...and if you look clearly..that is sony's 70-200..not canon 1
If not wrong, Sony 70-200mm f/2.8 SSG lens is still the most expensive 70-200mm lens compared to other manufacturers.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 19 2012, 01:15 PM)
5D3 a lot of stock, jump ship!
Yup, plenty around. But 1DX is still vapourware.

QUOTE(makaroni @ Apr 19 2012, 01:45 PM)
yeah, i dont understand why nikon put 24mp on entry level body, its look like all newer body after this will have 24 & above mp, D7100 perhaps?drool.gif
Yes, perhaps the newer Nikon bodies will use the same sensor. Therefore it is overall cheaper to build the D3200 (and other bodies that base on this same sensor) if you can meet the bulk quantity which they sub-con to Sony.

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Apr 19 2012, 04:36 PM)
Why wordless, any problem with that or with me? huh.gif
Foolomak, 5 digits spending on a go laugh.gif
Buy anything else with a D800 will get you into the 5 figure region. nod.gif

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Apr 19 2012, 05:16 PM)
I couldn't be sure, but is that the first f/1.8 Gold Ring lens? Probably the N coat will make it an interesting lens to own smile.gif
Indeed, the 28mm f/1.8 should be interesting. Interesting times to be a Nikon user.

QUOTE(hkenh @ Apr 19 2012, 05:37 PM)
Hopefully they are trying to set a trend where the days of Nikon's lenses are always more expensive than Canon are gone.
Looking forward for more affordable gong ring + nano coated lens!!!  rclxms.gif
Back in the old days, Nikon lenses are more expensive. Not anymore. Looking at equivalent lens lineup below 200mm, Nikon lenses are cheaper.

Perhaps it's the new Nikon strategy to target the consumer market by releasing quality entry level DSLRs and pro grade lenses are affordable prices. Good for them.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 19 2012, 06:26 PM)
Newbies love high MP. When they see a DSLR, they usually go 'how many MP is this?'

So Nikon is probably on the right track... when the shop goes, 24MP sharp sharp. Newbies buys it immediately  laugh.gif
I use to scoff at high MP when Canon was in the lead back then. I was only after quality pixels. Huge MPs with rubbish quality mostly was not what I was after. Therefore I was quite surprised when Nikon turned around and proved that high MP does not mean you get more rubbish pixels.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 19 2012, 07:03 PM)
so the D800 is for the mega newbie? tongue.gif
Gives chances for newbies to get a first taste of medium format quality. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 19 2012, 07:43 PM)
how much is a brand new D3s right now? still RM14k?
been seeing a few used ones going for RM11k and lower now.
I'm hoping their prices will dip down. But then I would be in the "hard-to-resist" dilemma. laugh.gif

QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Apr 19 2012, 08:37 PM)
Im an ultra newbie so im still keen on getting a D800,

28 1.8g seems promising, But probably gonna skip since i owned 16-35 f4

Question for u guys who thinking of getting D800,

wait or grab?
Can you get a D800 NOW at a reasonable price? If yes, why not?

Well, different lenses for different uses. I own 3 lenses that cover the 24mm focal range. Each one is different.

QUOTE(hkenh @ Apr 19 2012, 09:44 PM)
I can't help but as a Nikon fanboy, D800 smokes the 5d mk3 according to DxOmark Lab, LOL
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/04/19/dxomark-...rk-iii-81.aspx/
This is "old news" already. biggrin.gif Not surprising at all.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 19 2012, 09:51 PM)
Aiya, sure dapao 5D3 then LOL. Dapao even the D4.
If you gauge the current response of the photographic community on the internet, it seems like the D800 is a much bigger hit than the D4. Almost everyone is discussing about D800 with D4 hardly. Even here. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(ojtee @ Apr 19 2012, 10:00 PM)
What's the advise for getting a photo printer, use will be mainly for work/client/presentation, max i'd print would be an A3 size but unlikely it will be on a routine basis. budget <rm1k
Was looking at some at one point of time. Does a sub 1k A3 printer exist? I thought most are in the 3 to 4k range.

QUOTE(ojtee @ Apr 19 2012, 10:00 PM)
I'd buy a Nikon if there was one.......
LOL On that note, I think Canon printers are quite good. You need to give credit where it's due.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 19 2012, 10:05 PM)
I prefer it to be compared at 22MP though...
Don't need to go too far to Canon. The comparison shots of the D4 and the D800 (scales down to 18MP) on ISOs all the way up to ISO 6400 is identical !

QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Apr 19 2012, 11:25 PM)
they even tried out the D800 vs hasselblad h4d, and it seems that the D800's standing up pretty well!

kinda amazed with the superbness of the sensor.
Yup, pretty close to the H4D.


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QUOTE(amduser @ Apr 23 2012, 07:56 PM)
if i shot raw will the picture setting at the in-camera settings affect the raw file? i tried different picture setting and put in lightroom, preview shot no difference hmm.gif
The only softwares that recognise and can show the effects of in-camera Picture Style settings from the NEF file is Nikon View NX2 and Nikon Capture NX2.

QUOTE(-YS- @ Apr 24 2012, 12:46 AM)
HDR with D800 and 16-35 F4

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/35942631@N05/7106564391/
Was that done in-camera HDR?

QUOTE(sherdil @ Apr 24 2012, 02:16 AM)
I am happy with my D700...
Was thinking D800,but i dont do video and rather invest in a better lens..looking at the 24-70mm f2.8
So who has the D800 from the D700, any opinions..
Cheers
Going from D700 to D800 is just wonderful. You get to capture details you never thought it was possible to get. Focusing is faster too even on older AF-D screw driven lenses. But investing in the 24-70 is a wise idea.
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QUOTE(-YS- @ Apr 24 2012, 12:16 PM)
Nope, it's shot raw, developed in LR4, and done with Photomatix and PS =D
It would be more beautiful if you tone down the saturation.

QUOTE(enriquelee @ Apr 24 2012, 06:24 PM)
Nikon battery recall
More info
I checked and mine came with A. The extra one I bought is C.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 24 2012, 06:54 PM)
wow, only after feb29th 2012.
wonder what happened to their QC.
Don't know if the exterior casing can become deformed because of overheating but I did experience the D800 becoming very hot after shooting 400+ shots continuously in Bangkok in half an hour. Not hot to touch but definitely hotter than normal like after putting the camera in the car under the afternoon sun for 1 hour.

QUOTE(enriquelee @ Apr 24 2012, 07:41 PM)
If not mistaken few years back Nikon also recall some battery before.
EN-EL3 if I'm not mistaken.

QUOTE(gerald7 @ Apr 25 2012, 08:46 AM)
I still love my d300 (consoling myself not to change camera bodies)!

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Multi expose 3 frames
Superb ! rclxms.gif You don't need a new body. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(enriquelee @ Apr 25 2012, 09:29 AM)
The legendary lens for Nikon and also the most expansive lens in the world is on sale again after MIA so many years.
Nikon 6mm F2.8
Nice find. I thought the 300mm f/2.0 was the most expensive Nikkor.

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Took these shots when I was in Penang few weeks ago. Different angle, different treatment. Which one do you guys prefer?
Between the two, the 2nd one. Highlights a little overblown on the first one. But overall, a more moderate / less aggressive HDR would yield better results and look more natural / pleasing to the eye.
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Apr 27 2012, 01:23 PM)
woot just received 14-24mm lens.just in time for tomorrow bersih shooting tongue.gif
Wah... 14-24mm f/2.8 on a D5100? notworthy.gif

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KODAK NIKON 14n ... very old camera ... hehe
Woow ! That's a real 14MP full frame dinosaur. biggrin.gif Does Nikon still service it?

BTW, is that your new newborn baby? Congrats.

QUOTE(ongdennis @ Apr 27 2012, 04:14 PM)
Tamron SP AF90mm F/2.8 Di Macro
Nikon AF-S DX Micro NIKKOR 85mm f/3.5 G ED VR

which one should i go for my D7000?
May's issue of the N Photo magazine did a review of various macro lenses available for the Nikon body up to 105mm focal length. You can check it out.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 27 2012, 05:52 PM)
nikon 85mm got larger working distance, but its DX only lens.
both are just as sharp.
so its your choice.
The 85mm is not a stellar lens from what I've read. The tried and tested Tamron 90 is still the one to beat in terms of price / performance. The best is still the Nikkor 105 but the Tamron's quality is pretty close to it. Heck, it seems Sigma's 105 is better than Nikkor's 105.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 27 2012, 06:07 PM)
where got hard to decide?
wallet already says tamron is better choice.

but if u really think ur going to stick with DX lenses, u should also look at the tamron 60mm f/2.0.
basically same working distance as the 90mm, since the 60mm doesnt extend.
and it can obviously also be used as an alternative to a 50mm 1.8.
Good suggestion but comparing it as a macro lens, the reviews said that the Tamron 60 suck in image quality. Don't know how true it is.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 27 2012, 10:27 PM)
working distance is from the front of the lens to subject at 1:1.
iirc both tamron 60mm and 90mm are about 10cm, its cos the 90mm extends out so robbing some distance.

the nikon 85mm is about 14-15cm as it doesnt extend.
A lot of people confuse working distance with minimum focusing distance (MFD) of the lens. MFD is not calculated from the front of the lens but rather it's calculated from the sensor plane in the camera body to the subject unlike working distance which is calculated from the front of the lens to the subject at MFD.

QUOTE(ongdennis @ Apr 27 2012, 10:43 PM)
any formula to calculate the working distance.
thanks for much, this is really new info for me. i thought the important part just the minimum focus distance
MFD's are not calculated by formulas. They are already a given characteristic for a certain lense. If you want the longest working distance, the Nikkor Micro AF-D 200mm f/4 is the best but cost a bomb. Second best probably goes to the more modern Sigma 150mm f/2.8 that can come with OS or non OS.

QUOTE(sherdil @ Apr 28 2012, 04:34 AM)
Is it really worth the extra cash if i sell my D700 and get a D800, i am not interested in the video.
Anyone sold their d700 and got a D800,is it better?
Looking at both cameras, the D800 has more advance features. Sports? While the D800's AF is faster at achieving focus lock, it has 4fps vs 5 fps (or 8fps with battery grip) on the D700. Is that important?

If you shoot low light, the AF on the D800 is more reliable but if you compare per pixel noise level, the D700 wins. When you start to reduce the D800 pic to view or print at the same size as the D700, the D800 wins.

If you shoot in landscapes in daylight, there is no question that the D800 is the better camera with better dynamic range and resolution.

So the question is what kind of photos do you take?

QUOTE(raaisma @ Apr 28 2012, 08:21 AM)
I did exactly that. No regret coughing up the extra dough. The astounding level of details is simply spectacular.

Last night's stargazing session:
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Wah, your sensor looks very dirty ! tongue.gif Congrats on the new toy. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(swaichia @ Apr 28 2012, 09:36 PM)
unsure.gif anyone upgrade from d700 to D800 because D800 have 100% viewfinder?
Well, personally not a feature that I specifically looked for but nice to have. Now I have to re-train myself because last time with D700, you would frame it differently as compared to the D800 which will capture exactly what you see in the viewfinder.

QUOTE(seather @ Apr 29 2012, 12:28 AM)
that is why next week going back to test the 16-35 when they have stock... tongue.gif

i like to take those sweeping landscape pics... like u standing in front of a great temple/hall/building and getting that awe perspective smile.gif
Ah, that explains why they are pushing the other lenses... rolleyes.gif Did they push to you the 24mm f/1.4?

QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 29 2012, 01:05 AM)
Actually, my main upgrade points from D700 to D800 would be the 100% VF and new AF module which is supposedly better than D700's.
The AF and metering is indeed better. drool.gif

QUOTE(seather @ Apr 29 2012, 03:08 AM)
coz he knows i can never afford it atm tongue.gif why try to sell a BMW to a person who can barely afford a honda
Well, the 35mm f/1.4 isn't exactly Honda pricing, if you know what I mean...

QUOTE(seather @ Apr 29 2012, 03:08 AM)
agreed.. very specialized lens... plus it is expensive... not something i will buy juz to play play unless i know what i wan to do wif it... got the skills to backup the gear  icon_rolleyes.gif
Don't understand... What special skills do you need to have when shooting with the 14-24? To me, it's just the same as any other UW lens.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 30 2012, 01:03 AM)
if u need the extra 2/3 stop, then just buy D4 tongue.gif
LOL
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 30 2012, 07:50 AM)
CY no like jchue73, poison poison sad.gif LOL!
Poison? Where got? tongue.gif

QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 30 2012, 11:04 AM)
16-35 is only good as a wide angle... that's all about it. f/4 is the big downside.. sad.gif even on my D700 sensor ISO performance.
Oh, like that you need D4. rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(seather @ Apr 30 2012, 11:33 AM)
i seem some of ur pics taken by the 16-35. they influence me to consider the 16-35  rclxms.gif
LOL... CY, now who poison who now... sweat.gif

QUOTE(iloveOov @ Apr 30 2012, 11:35 AM)
Mondy blur spam xD

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QUOTE(ifer @ Apr 30 2012, 11:58 AM)
Not to mention the barrel distortion is almot WTF?
It's practically a fish eye at 16mm hahaa
We need a 17mm TSE lens.

QUOTE(iloveOov @ Apr 30 2012, 03:40 PM)
ok lolz

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 30 2012, 03:45 PM)
is that not good for chop off the part of the hand? 
kinda blur with human photography haha... include the hand will looks better ar?
because if zoom out a bit to include hand...will the face too small to see?  unsure.gif

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Actually there's no right or wrong lah. But generally those are the rules to follow. I've seen great photos also that break a lot of conventional rules.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 30 2012, 06:07 PM)
._. D4 is out of reach sad.gif D800 is the sweet spot for me  doh.gif oh no poisoned T_T
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 30 2012, 06:07 PM)
Self preference lo, maybe most people focus at the face and.. else where(?)... but I see it as a whole pix.
I think in the case of that particular photo, chopping the hand is not so good. If it was other pose, perhaps you can get away with chopping the hands. Like you said, depends on how the model was framed / composed.

QUOTE(Sadru @ May 1 2012, 12:14 AM)
sudden question!
anyone here have any suggestion for a flash trigger?
i plan to get 1 for my d90 + sb700 but not knowing any good brand. i heard about aputure and  yongnuo.

any feedback or suggestion would highly appreciated!
thank you guys! ;D
You know that you can use the built-in flash on the D90 as a flash commander to your SB700, right? FOC.

QUOTE(ifer @ May 1 2012, 09:20 AM)
Yeah. These equipments will make me rich
LOL Yes, another way of looking at it.


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QUOTE(zhinsara @ May 2 2012, 11:34 PM)
ISO3200 on a D300s. Shot RAW, applied NR in LR3 then added fill light, that might explain the grain. I WANT A D700  icon_question.gif (or even better a D3s lolol  doh.gif )
Based on latest reports, you should want a D800 instead. biggrin.gif

Meanwhile, I think most have come across these but just in case you missed them, I have listed the ones I found very good and well thought out reviews of the D800/D800E.

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/...pressions.shtml

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_p...d=7-11676-12555

Lastly, some samples of the D800 as a sports camera shooting polo ! notworthy.gif

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1108889

QUOTE(amduser @ May 3 2012, 07:29 AM)
want to ask how to improve my panning? i tried using zoom lens that day with slow shutter speed at 1/30, many picture appear blurred due to handshake, only some of this picture usable, but still quite blurry sad.gif

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Practice, practice and practice. 1/30 maybe ok for wider angle shots depending on your focal length. If longer focal length, you may want to use a faster shutter speed until you're most comfortable. This may differ from person to person unfortunately. A VR lens would give you better advantage of using slower shutter speeds.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 3 2012, 10:34 AM)
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another question:

how fast shutter speed for make the car stopped?

how slow the shutter speed to make eveything blur?  hmm.gif  unsure.gif
In relation to panning? That's a very generic question ! Depends on your focal length and how fast the car is actually moving.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 3 2012, 12:08 PM)
a body with auto focus motor and witout.... does it help auto focus faster with AFS lens?
Usually bodies with AF motor built-in are Pro bodies with better AF module. So therefore most of those bodies with built-in AF motor will indirectly have faster focus with AF-S lenses.

QUOTE(seather @ May 3 2012, 02:08 PM)
anyway.. i always here ppl say tamron macro lens are better?  hmm.gif
Who says? Tamron is good bang for the buck but if you compare just performance alone, the Nikkor is almost always the better lens.


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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 3 2012, 04:05 PM)
i think i second some of those comments that i rather own the 400mm f/2.8 that he used tongue.gif
Of course ! Who wouldn't... It's more than double the price of the D800.

Anyway, the original shooter posted that he already had that lens and had used it on several Nikon bodies. The D800 yielded the best and most satisfying results.
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QUOTE(ifer @ Apr 30 2012, 08:11 PM)
If Nikon really release one hor, i will splash 20k for the D800E with this lens without thinking
Speaking about the 17mm TSE, Nikon apparently is going to make one as well as other lenses.

http://nikonrumors.com/2012/04/27/nikon-pa...-4-lenses.aspx/

QUOTE(mmohdnor @ May 3 2012, 06:43 PM)
True. Though I love tamron sp90's sharpness, sometimes (maybe 20-30% of the time?) it is hard to take your macro pic bcoz no VR if you simply handheld ur cam for a quick shot. Need to put on tripod if u want better stability and sharpness. I'm not saying tamron sp90 is bad, just saying that the 105 micro have VR, IF, Nano & AF-S ... makes it better than have nothing at all like tamron sp90. I can't say much coz I only have experience with sp90 so far. tongue.gif
I would love to move to 105mm micro one day, but not urgent lah ... hehe.
I've been seeing samples of the Sigma 150mm f/2.8 macro lens lately. Nothing short of superb. The latest ones come with OS / VR. Perhaps you should aim for that one.

QUOTE(amduser @ May 3 2012, 09:58 PM)
i didnt shot with VR when i'm using my 55-300mm because i want to save my battery for the rest of the day, i follow use the shutter vs focal length rule but that would mean lesser panning effect for the photos
When you pan, you almost always have to break the 1/focal length rule i.e. shutter speed slower than what is normally allowed for hand holding without VR.

QUOTE(amduser @ May 3 2012, 09:58 PM)
i cant even get sharp image with my 35mm on 1/40 shutter speed sad.gif
Practice lor... When you pan, press your camera to your face, pull in your arms closer to your body and your whole upper part of the body right down to your waist moves from left to right (or right to left). Not just with your hands alone. Try to follow and pan the same speed as your subject. Fire continuous shots

With wide angle, it's usually much easier to pan but to get more effect, you need to be very close to the subject which can be dangerous at times.

QUOTE(gerald7 @ May 3 2012, 10:41 PM)
no need vr for panning, because it will be fighting with you to stabilize vertical and horizontally. where we will be moving horizontally. I also tried the 55-300 for panning with VR.. for me I swtich it off. I was told by my friend that Canon's IS can swtich on both axis or only one... maybe thats their secret  hmm.gif
Depends... If your VR is version 2 or the latest one, it should detect horizontal or vertical panning motion and compensate for it.

QUOTE(celciuz @ May 4 2012, 07:23 AM)
Normal and Active, normal will automatically adjust for axial direction.. meaning if you panning in X direction, VR will compensate for Y direction movement and not X.

Active however will ignore that and compensate for both X and Y direction, for shooting on 'unstable' grounds.
Yup. Active is for shooting in helicopter or on the boat.

QUOTE(celciuz @ May 4 2012, 09:02 AM)
I get my TT stuffs from Yannick, competitive pricing smile.gif. My additional pouches for my belt arriving today biggrin.gif, TT Lens Changer 50 V2.0 x2 tongue.gif
Wah... Where are you going what are you going to shoot? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ May 4 2012, 03:16 PM)
Addicted to belt system at the moment, very handy and comfy!

I bought the Modular Set, it comes only with a Lens Changer 75 V2.0 (for 70-200), a Lens Changer 50 V2.0 (For UWA lens...) and a pouch for flash and also another one for accessories or body.

Basically if I were to go out with 2-3 small lens (16-35, 35, 85) I need additional pouches ma... cannot be I bring the 75 out and put a 35mm inside? >_<
I also actually carry around the same number of lenses and around the same sizes as you do when I do serious shooting. I guess I need to try the belt system since it's easy to travel and keep this system inside your bigger camera bag. Currently I'm using the TT Speed Racer. Even though nice for casual type shooting, but if you want to carry a little more gear, the belt system is more advantageous.

QUOTE(amduser @ May 4 2012, 07:40 PM)
i did move my body together, and sometime after walking and running around big events, heartbeat too fast i can feel my viewfinder jump up and down when i tuck in both of my hand laugh.gif
LOL, yes I know what you mean. I don't have VR lenses and the only way to train yourself to shoot panning motion successfully is to practice, practice and practice until it becomes 2nd nature. It's one of those things I still have to perfect and I shoot a few hundred before only a handful is usable.

The ones I really admire are the night panning shots of F1 cars from Darren Heath with a 500mm or 600mm lens !

QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ May 5 2012, 12:51 AM)
ytd i tried to use D7000 for low light shooting in the club...
ISO 1600 is barely usable...
and the AF speed is quite slow...
it makes me miss my D700 adi now...
Relax... The D7000 is quite close in performance to the D700. What you're seeing is the pixel noise at 100% viewing on the monitor. Once you print them out on the same size paper or resize the pics to the same size, you'd hardly see any difference.

That's the general downside of higher MP (higher MP, higher noise) which the D800 somehow does not seem to follow this "rule".

QUOTE(seather @ May 5 2012, 02:29 AM)
this is the AF-S 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 VR rite? a FX lens?  hmm.gif

the minimum focus distance for ur lens is 1.5m from the focal plane.... or about 1.3m from the front of the lens...

shooting in tight areas? if not, juz stand far far away and tembak saja la  laugh.gif
Yup. rclxms.gif nod.gif If you need bigger magnification (i.e. need to go closer to your subject), you need to get a macro lens.

QUOTE(BenSow @ May 5 2012, 02:38 AM)
Read many tutorials on how to bounce/diffuse built in flash and most of them failed.. So I just grabbed a piece of paper and angled it and put it in front of mah flash. Worked like a charm laugh.gif
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Not a bad attempt. How was the light bounced? Did you use a light tent? Usually, to successfully light up small objects without overblowing the lighting setup, a light tent is used.

QUOTE(lpyycy @ May 5 2012, 12:50 PM)
Dear All, previously i was asking about claiming warranty without receipt.
just to follow up, i have claim it without receipt, just filled date and camera shop stamping warranty card... now waiting Nikon Centre to service it...
Thanks for the feedback. I missed your earlier post but what item were you trying to claim warranty?

Usually, Nikon SC does not ask for receipt. They just ask for the warranty card and at most, they would ask you when you bought the lens / DSLR body. However if you try and claim warranty for an older DSLR camera body like a D90, they would probably ask for a receipt to ascertain the date which you actually bought the DSLR. That is understandable since D90 has been around for a while already. If they ask you for receipt if you bring in a new body like a D800 /D800E or D4, then it's a little weird unless they suspect your camera body is a stolen unit.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ May 9 2012, 11:28 AM)
D800 HDR mode:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-d800-d800e/16

The HDR that I like, the natural and actual purpose of HDR, to achieve higher dynamic range.
I'm still trying to finish reading it. Halfway. biggrin.gif

I thought the comment about having to change ISO with two hands on the D800 as compared to one hand operation on the 5DMkIII is not so accurate. You can choose to switch on the d7 menu Show ISO / Easy ISO and change the ISO on the fly using the rear main command dial under A mode or the front sub-command dial if you're in P or S mode.

QUOTE(MrAkay @ May 13 2012, 12:41 AM)
I have a 2470 as main. But I want the 2 fast prime and can only get one first. Still 35?
Depends on what's your shooting style. If you're just into conventional type portraiture of just taking close crop portraits without background, you can't go wrong with the 85mm f/1.4. If your style is more environmental type portraiture that includes the background as well like what iloveOov and celciuz are posting, the 35mm f/1.4 is nice.

QUOTE(piscesguy @ May 13 2012, 08:15 AM)
Considering wide angle lenses are used for Landscapes, where you would want most of the stuff in-focus generally, why would big aperture lens help? I can understand that low-light conditions are one reason, but you will anyways be more productive using a tripod, is there anything else I may be missing?
For landscapes, big apertures not required. You'll only want big aperture if you shoot in available light and thin DOF, something a tripod sometimes cannot give. Sometimes in low light, you want fast shutter speed to freeze motion of subjects like stage play or gymnastics.

QUOTE(celciuz @ May 13 2012, 10:30 AM)
For wedding actual day, you will find zooms more flexible and useful unless its during the preparation period (make up, gowns etc)
Yup, especially if you're the main photog. If you're not the main photog, perhaps you can just do selected shots concentrating on just a few things, then perhaps shooting with a prime is fine.

If in doubt, have two bodies ! One with a zoom, another with a prime. biggrin.gif

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I like the flash balance on this one. rclxms.gif Very subtle and at the same time capture the beautiful sunset in the background. What flash positioning? With pocket wizard? How many?

QUOTE(gerald7 @ May 14 2012, 08:24 AM)
recently saw a wedding job that had an interesting side note, that the photographer MUST Shoot with lenses with smaller aperture number than f2.0 guess the couple likes super bokehness
You mean bigger aperture than f/2?

QUOTE(amduser @ May 14 2012, 09:02 AM)
F2.8 also can make nice bokeh what
f/4 also can.

QUOTE(Everdying @ May 14 2012, 11:51 AM)
but the gear u carry also shows how serious u are.
like how if u see a ceo drive up in a kancil...what will u think of the company? tongue.gif
Reminds me of the shock I got when I received a name card with a gmail address printed from a supposedly multinational company. Very confidence inspiring... Not !

Yeah, you have to bring a Hassy to command a 5 figure price. biggrin.gif Good or no good, that's a different subject matter.

QUOTE(celciuz @ May 14 2012, 04:34 PM)
f/2.0 and smaller meaning f/2.8 ---> f/5.6? tongue.gif Smaller aperture --> smaller opening --> bigger aperture number biggrin.gif

Side note, if f/2.0 and faster, Olympus system can still quality as their higher end zoom lens are f/2.0 constant.
Yeah but because of their sensor size, it's about f/3.5 or f/4 equivalent on full frame if I'm not wrong.
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 14 2012, 04:57 PM)
lol why everyone not "really" read carefully?  tongue.gif

he said "smaller aperture NUMBER" lah  tongue.gif
My apologies. But sometimes other people might read it wrongly. Good to make it crystal clear.

QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ May 14 2012, 07:47 PM)
I'm also thinking of getting a 35 1.4 too! biggrin.gif Maybe this week or next? But it won't be a Nikon.. jeng jeng jeng!
A Zeiss? ohmy.gif

QUOTE(sai86 @ May 14 2012, 10:40 PM)
tq for d info. ur pictar is always so  drool.gif  thumbup.gif

need some advice from you guys, below is few pictar i taken and please notice the green dot appears. may i know what caused this? it only appears when shooting at this place (food court) when i visit KK last time.

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Cheap UV filter. Take it off.

QUOTE(Everdying @ May 14 2012, 11:09 PM)
my sifu taught me not to use filters at all no matter how good it is, in studio settings cos all the lights there will mess up the images tongue.gif
+1

QUOTE(tctham @ May 14 2012, 11:11 PM)
How i wish i can get rid of the paranoia in me.. i kept thinking "what if shit happens" and i kept using filters.. only when i am taking some shots with weird lightings, or long exposure, or when sharpness is critical, i'll remove the filter.. else for day-to-day usage, i keep the filter on.. just in case.. hahahaha
If you're using it on harsh environment like in sandy padang pasir, you need filters. For normal daily usage, you can live without it.

QUOTE(tctham @ May 14 2012, 11:13 PM)
i got 1 35mm album also.. i would say it's worth buying, if you know what limitations you would be going through.. mainly my gripe about it is the harsh bokeh and weird ghostings.. otherwise, it's a fantastic lens for me.. smile.gif wish they had a distance scale though.. kekeke

i can go for a lot of outings, with just the 35mm on the camera.. it's like an all rounder lens for me.. esp for trips.. not for events though.. events, still zooms are more versatile..

edit: i like it when the thread is active like this smile.gif
Harsh bokeh and weird ghostings? You sure you're looking at pics from the 35mm f/1.4 and not from the 50mm f/1.4?

QUOTE(iloveOov @ May 15 2012, 08:01 AM)
Good morning...waiting Diablo 3 launching keke

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Model has a very photogenic smile. The DoF from the 35mm on FF is wonderful.
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QUOTE(ky_khor @ May 15 2012, 02:16 PM)
Own a D7000 kit lense and a P300.

Plan to get the Nikkor 35mm/f1.8 and an ultra wide lense.

Anyone here pair D7000 with Tamron 10-24/Sigma 10-24/Tokina 11-16mm Ultra wide lense? Any recommendation out of this 3?
The Sigma is a 10-20, no? I still have mine sitting in the dry cabinet. This was my go to lens when I was shooting with the D300 and if I needed wide angle.

Opphs, my D300 is also sitting idle in the dry cabinet. Need to offload them.

QUOTE(ongdennis @ May 15 2012, 04:07 PM)
after very long time reading and surveying. i bought the tamron SP90 at last. I tested the nikon 85mm F3.5 mikro but it not really impress me.

the unit i get is a 2nd hand one without built-in motor. in the box saw the warranty card is a local set and sold out on year 2008. but somehow the lens still look new and good.

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notice that my hand really shake a lot and most of the picture become blur...
Congrats. Perhaps now you would invest in a sturdy tripod. If you want to get bigger magnification at the same working distance, you can try a TC like the Kenko 1.4x or Kenko extension tubes or a close up filter like the Raynox DCR-250. Use Liveview if you have for composition and focusing.

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