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nightfal
post Apr 13 2012, 01:44 PM

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After surgery you probably need few months to recover. So hang in there
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post Apr 13 2012, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(heng84 @ Apr 13 2012, 01:38 PM)
bro thanks for the advice i know its no hurry.. but in order to claim my insurance my agent ask me dont drag too long..
and i want to do sports.. i mean possible that no longer able to play football..
at least i can play golf or something lighter without any trouble..  if i dont do operation i scared i cant even enjoy light sports.. i can feel that im gaining weight lol!!
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i've did the surgery, after 1 year, i think i'm pushing myself harder in sports! If u want to have an active lifestyle n play sports, do consult with ur doctor n see what are the options available.
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post Apr 14 2012, 02:37 AM

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QUOTE(tangtang22 @ Apr 13 2012, 02:17 PM)
i've did the surgery, after 1 year, i think i'm pushing myself harder in sports! If u want to have an active lifestyle n play sports, do consult with ur doctor n see what are the options available.
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wow .. thats very good.. what sports do you play? any sports that you try to avoid? any do's and don't? im just very scared it will snap again if i go over the limits


Added on April 14, 2012, 2:37 am
QUOTE(nightfal @ Apr 13 2012, 01:44 PM)
After surgery you probably need few months to recover. So hang in there
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ya doc say 30% surgery.. rest is the physio.. depend on how hardworking or positive i am

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tangtang22
post Apr 16 2012, 09:04 AM

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[quote=heng84,Apr 14 2012, 02:37 AM]
wow .. thats very good.. what sports do you play? any sports that you try to avoid? any do's and don't? im just very scared it will snap again if i go over the limits

football.. well, just do ur rehab n let the physio tell u when ur ready to go back, it will take some time as u will need to train up ur strength, balance, n etc..
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post Apr 16 2012, 09:08 AM

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[quote=tangtang22,Apr 16 2012, 09:04 AM]
[quote=heng84,Apr 14 2012, 02:37 AM]
wow .. thats very good.. what sports do you play? any sports that you try to avoid? any do's and don't? im just very scared it will snap again if i go over the limits

football.. well, just do ur rehab n let the physio tell u when ur ready to go back, it will take some time as u will need to train up ur strength, balance, n etc..
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post Apr 23 2012, 01:39 PM

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see dr. Gan. Damansara Specialist or Dr. Saw in Kuala Lumpur Sport Med Cntr.

I did in KPJ Sel but unfortunately the OP fail. I am not able to get my normal knee back. Is has been 6 month. I am not able to full extent and bend even i did my physio intensively.
I am suffer form athrofibrosis and meniscus injury now.

Looking for option.. either to redo using hamstring or clean the fibrosis. But, both procedure doc not guarantee me to get full range of motion.

Moral of the story.
Do not simply give yr leg to the doc to slaughter..
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post Jul 9 2012, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(nurneeda @ Apr 23 2012, 01:39 PM)
see dr. Gan. Damansara Specialist or Dr. Saw in Kuala Lumpur Sport Med Cntr.

I did in KPJ Sel but unfortunately the OP fail. I am not able to get my normal knee back. Is has been 6 month. I am not able to full extent and bend even i did my physio intensively.
I am suffer form athrofibrosis and meniscus injury now.

Looking for option.. either to redo using hamstring or clean the fibrosis. But, both procedure doc not guarantee me to get full range of motion.

Moral of the story.
Do not simply give yr leg to the doc to slaughter..
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yeah. i read dr Gan kinda popular. How about the use of Allograft for your case?
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post Jul 9 2012, 10:45 PM

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i did mine > 10 years back. torn from taekwondo. wasted 2years plus diagnosing & dilly dalying. went for acl recon, RM4000 (HUKM). fell down during recovery.

it was a slow recovery for me, but if i didnt do the op, i cannot even do stretching anymore. nowadays the knee suka2 dislocate. my stories of dislocation could fill a few pages. latest was dislocated in office for 6 hours, cannot pop back inside. with a sor-hai colleague who is supposedly MANAGER sniggering & taking videos of me in pain and being loaded into ambulance.

summary, i dont regret doing the operation, without it, i cant do basic kicks. now, i'm in karate, i can kick but i cannot do any sudden movements without consequences anymore.
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QUOTE(sheiberlee @ Mar 25 2012, 01:55 AM)
I went MRI @ Forest medical center, kepong early this month and the report came out and stated that my ACL completely torn.
then i went and have a consultation with a orthopedic dr somewhere near there and he said that surgery is the best to recover.
anyone had the experience undergo the ACL reconstruction surgery? any good Dr near PJ area? my company took AIA and their panel around PJ is Tropicana medical center & KPJ Damansara  rclxub.gif
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Am curious, how did you get your ACL torn? I am an avid runner in my early 40s but started running only a year ago. Lately, a lot of problem with my knee and did a MRI scan 2 weeks ago. Nothing was wrong but got problem with my ITB and resting now.
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I am glad I found this thread, at least people are sharing and talking. I had my ACL torn some 22 yrs ago, but didn't gave a demn as I didn't really know what the hack it was. Not much detail was told to me or I didn't pay real attention. Had part of my cartilege cut off due to hair line crack. This was due to a fall while playing badminton and since then, had stopped playing completed. However, was suffering constantly from coolness in my left feet, easy tireness from short while standing, can't sit on my left side for long as it causes uncomfort. I when to see doctor but no one can really tell me what was wrong, just tell me found nothing wrong. about 5 years ago, I started massaging my leg and slowly things began to improve and all those symptoms started to ease off or becomes bearable so much so that I don't even feel it most of the time.

However, due to work fatigue and stress, I started searching for detoxification, etc... started drinking brown rice tea then eventually when back to play sports. Last April, while playing badminton, just a little jump and had lost balance, fell and sent to hospitial A&E to see doctor. Knee cap came off, was on wheel chair and clutches when walking. could not bend my feet at all. Doctor arranged for me to visit the sport clinic the follow week. I went to visit my TCM after A&E visit and my knee cap was put back in placed. I was able to walk immediately and went home without clutches or wheel chair. Sport's clinic placed me on physio program, also arrange to see bone specialist. MRI was done 2 weeks late due to "full house", even then, was done in the evening because they had to clear many backlog.


Some where in the 3rd week, I already started playing but within my limits but I was still running like before except the weakness on my left leg. MRI out in 5 week indicated complete tear. Physio asked that I go re-construction. I hestitated and search the internet for info... Found conflicting research report regarding going for Op. Initially, was almost certain to go for day surgery to have it repair, but after reading another recent report about those who had it, after 10 years, sufffering from other knee related problems. This report was from Romania regarding their atheletes who had undergone Op and went back to their respectively sports. Another report interview those who had not done so after 10 years, non sporty people are still doing well. So decided not to go but was put on rehabilitation program. Suppose to last 5-6 moths depending on progress. Stick closely to the routine and even did extra on my own to improve my condition. My left tight muscle strink 6cm after 3 days from accident. became very weak but was able to do most action but with some form of pain. physio did some test and then follow by instructor's on working on my leg. Surprisingly, within 10 weeks, I was off the program. in fact, from the 4 weeks, I was back to my game but had adjusted to suit my leg condition. Adjsuted my game plan so that I don't stretch my left knee too much. I also put on a knee brace with stablizer. Physio told me I had to strengthen my hamstring muscle as it would act to support my knee movement backward and forward. As for the side movement, the brace would help as the steel metal in the brace help stablised the knee.

All in, don't loose heart, you are to determine how you are going to recover and what sort of quality of life you want as compare to previously prior to the accident. Lots of thing was told to me during my rehab program and I do take care not to aggravate it for fear of "THE END" for my left knee. I am still enjoying my game, would rate it as 8-9 out of 10 compare to previously, buy I hardly need to stretch to that extent only on occcasions. If there is no need, I would not like to. most time, I rate myself 7, which is what the phyiso target set for the patient prior to being drop from the program. Should I feel that my bone touches each other, that is it, I call it a day and rest. Do my message everyday. Once in a while, visit my TCM for some message to improve my blood circulation.


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post Mar 6 2013, 07:26 PM

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Done my ACL (Hamstring Graft)+Meniscus tear recently. and this is my story. biggrin.gif

Day 1 - Friday, OP around 3 p.m and finish around 6 . nothing much after the OP. Just rest for the night with GameReady ice compressing machine the whole night. Anyway, no major pain felt and its just swell a bit. from 1 to 10,
pain are just 3 max. Anyway, they gave u shots of morphine just in case the pain is unbearable.
Day 2 - Saturday, Nurse removed the blood drain tube (tube from under the pattela) Physician walk in on the afternoon, teach me how to use the crutches with full weight, and how to strengthen my quad muscle.Just rest for the
night with GameReady ice compressing machine the whole night.
Day 3 - Sunday, walk around the ward slowly, did the quad muscle sets 3 times and a lot of bending (slowly). GameReady ice compressing machine was use all the time after the exercise and the whole night.
Day 4 - Monday, went to physio department, my Range of Motion (ROM) now is 80°. Continued with the quad muscle training.
Day 6 - Wednesday, physio still the same, ROM now around 110°, i forced my self when i was in my room biggrin.gif . and started playing with the stair @ the hospital. slowly but surely.
Day 7 - Dischared!!! Finally... go home and continue with the physio.

Week 2 - Bending now around 120°, physio done with weight bearing, slowly regain my confidence. a bit limping tho and stitches removed. (doctor suggested not to go more than 90° because related to meniscus)

Week 4 - Bending now around 130° (naturally and did not force anything) , still physio with weight bearing. no limping and can fast walk. hamstring felt discomfort when bend around 130° though.

Week 6 - Bending almost complete, physio with weight bearing and already fast walk and cycle during physio rehab in hospital. still felt some discomfort around hamstring area.


Anyway, recovery time are varies to the persons. One of the main reasons for the recovery to take such times are because of fear. So be positive and motivate yourself to control it. rclxms.gif


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post Jun 4 2013, 03:43 AM

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QUOTE(sheiberlee @ Mar 6 2013, 07:26 PM)
Done my ACL (Hamstring Graft)+Meniscus tear recently. and this is my story.  biggrin.gif 

Day 1 - Friday, OP around 3 p.m and finish around 6 . nothing much after the OP. Just rest for the night with GameReady ice compressing machine the whole night. Anyway, no major pain felt and its just swell a bit. from 1 to 10,     
            pain are just 3 max. Anyway, they gave u shots of morphine just in case the pain is unbearable.
Day 2 - Saturday, Nurse removed the blood drain tube (tube from under the pattela)  Physician walk in on the afternoon, teach me how to use the crutches with full weight, and how to strengthen my quad muscle.Just rest for the
            night with GameReady ice compressing machine the whole night.
Day 3 - Sunday, walk around the ward slowly, did the quad muscle sets 3 times and a lot of bending (slowly).  GameReady ice compressing machine was use all the time after the exercise and the whole night.
Day 4 - Monday, went to physio department, my Range of Motion (ROM) now is 80°. Continued with the quad muscle training.
Day 6 - Wednesday, physio still the same, ROM now around 110°, i forced my self when i was in my room  biggrin.gif . and started playing with the stair @ the hospital. slowly but surely.
Day 7 - Dischared!!! Finally... go home and continue with the physio.

Week 2 - Bending now around 120°, physio done with weight bearing, slowly regain my confidence. a bit limping tho and stitches removed. (doctor suggested not to go more than 90° because related to meniscus)

Week 4 - Bending now around 130° (naturally and did not force anything) , still physio with weight bearing. no limping and can fast walk. hamstring felt discomfort when bend around 130° though.

Week 6 - Bending almost complete, physio with weight bearing and already fast walk and cycle during physio rehab in hospital. still felt some discomfort around hamstring area.
Anyway, recovery time are varies to the persons. One of the main reasons for the recovery to take such times are because of fear. So be positive and motivate yourself to control it.  rclxms.gif
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Wow, that sounds like 1,2,3 for you! Glad that you share this time frame with us. I am considering to have my surgery this July..but here's my problem:

1) I have not make any appointments with any doctor/surgeon yet -- still reading around for recommended surgeon/specialist
2) My company's insurance policy covers RM18,000 for my level of employment
3) I want the insurance to cover my surgery -- but is it possible? because I injured in 2009 when I was in university. Currently, I am working so I am afraid that the insurance won't cover me, due to pre-employment injury. Btw, the insurance company is ING.
4) How long will it take to make appointment with private/government hospital for the surgery? 1 month before? 2 months? Reason being, govt hospital is cheap as I am only covered for RM18,000..so to go to private specialist might cost me more.. and I am really targeting to repair my acl/meniscus this coming July..
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QUOTE(ajai_fza @ Jun 4 2013, 03:43 AM)
Wow, that sounds like 1,2,3 for you! Glad that you share this time frame with us. I am considering to have my surgery this July..but here's my problem:

1) I have not make any appointments with any doctor/surgeon yet -- still reading around for recommended surgeon/specialist
2) My company's insurance policy covers RM18,000 for my level of employment
3) I want the insurance to cover my surgery -- but is it possible? because I injured in 2009 when I was in university. Currently, I am working so I am afraid that the insurance won't cover me, due to pre-employment injury. Btw, the insurance company is ING.
4) How long will it take to make appointment with private/government hospital for the surgery? 1 month before? 2 months? Reason being, govt hospital is cheap as I am only covered for RM18,000..so to go to private specialist might cost me more.. and I am really targeting to repair my acl/meniscus this coming July..
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1. very good. read around. be prepared. but i recommend dr.Asri of prince court. it's not just the specialist. specialist is half. another half would be the physio and your mental strength.

2. my price all in was 22k. my housemate did it at ampang puteri was 30k. so i think the price would be varies, depending on the case.

3. u need to see the doctor and discuss this.

4. before i went to prince court (i just blitz in prince court, same day see doctor), i did tried hospital selayang. 1st day set date with front desk. a month later can see the doctor. a month later go mri. than 2 weeks after maybe surgery. but the price that was quoted for me was 14k.

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U should try around gathering feedback which hospital the best bro...then go clinic to refer u to hospital...
18k should b sufficient.. Mine was 10-15k which i tink is 15k when doc issue the letter to insurance company
Tell the doc to write ur report as recent injury. If they want ur business they should know wat to do
Once u got ur mri scan u can start appoinment inmediately...

Im in day 3 now
First day sunday night check in.. Puasa start at 6 am
Second day monday did operation at 3 n finish at 7.. At first i tink ok coz din vomit coz i jus lie on the bed but when i push the bed up terus vomit water.. Realy no appetite.. Kencing oso use a tabung
Now 3rd day jus use ice pack every 3 hour...
Hopefuly tomolo can go back.. smile.gif

QUOTE(ajai_fza @ Jun 4 2013, 03:43 AM)
Wow, that sounds like 1,2,3 for you! Glad that you share this time frame with us. I am considering to have my surgery this July..but here's my problem:

1) I have not make any appointments with any doctor/surgeon yet -- still reading around for recommended surgeon/specialist
2) My company's insurance policy covers RM18,000 for my level of employment
3) I want the insurance to cover my surgery -- but is it possible? because I injured in 2009 when I was in university. Currently, I am working so I am afraid that the insurance won't cover me, due to pre-employment injury. Btw, the insurance company is ING.
4) How long will it take to make appointment with private/government hospital for the surgery? 1 month before? 2 months? Reason being, govt hospital is cheap as I am only covered for RM18,000..so to go to private specialist might cost me more.. and I am really targeting to repair my acl/meniscus this coming July..
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post Jul 10 2013, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(gheyfriend @ Jul 2 2013, 06:40 PM)
U should try around gathering feedback which hospital the best bro...then go clinic to refer u to hospital...
18k should b sufficient.. Mine was 10-15k which i tink is 15k when doc issue the letter to insurance company
Tell the doc to write ur report as recent injury. If they want ur business they should know wat to do
Once u got ur mri scan u can start appoinment inmediately...

Im in day 3 now
First day sunday night check in.. Puasa start at 6 am
Second day monday did operation at 3 n finish at 7.. At first i tink ok coz din vomit coz i jus lie on the bed but when i push the bed up terus vomit water.. Realy no appetite.. Kencing oso use a tabung
Now 3rd day jus use ice pack every 3 hour...
Hopefuly tomolo can go back.. smile.gif
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post Jul 10 2013, 12:27 PM

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today is 9th day but i only can bend my knee till 90% still, doc say no need force lar..but one thing i concern i ady started walk since day 7 up n down without crutches..i scare the ligament bcome longgar oso..and today i started to drive ady...boring lar everyday stay home..my right knee ok lar...still can press pedall...ahahaha

QUOTE(sheiberlee @ Jul 10 2013, 07:57 AM)
wassup mang?

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post Jul 10 2013, 12:36 PM

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good². 90% on day 9 is good. and summore u walk ady.

no need to strain to much. just do the physio as regular as u can. and u should be ok.

the ligament aint that easy to longgar la bro. but still, dont be over confident la haa
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Not 90% la. Its 90 degree...it day 11 n i still 90 only...

QUOTE(sheiberlee @ Jul 10 2013, 12:36 PM)
good². 90% on day 9 is good. and summore u walk ady.

no need to strain to much. just do the physio as regular as u can. and u should be ok.

the ligament aint that easy to longgar la bro. but still, dont be over confident la haa
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post Jul 11 2013, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(gheyfriend @ Jul 11 2013, 05:33 PM)
Not 90% la. Its 90 degree...it day 11 n i still 90 only...
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i had meniscus as well and for my case, dr said dont go over 90 first 4 weeks.

so chill out
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one of my friend did ACL recon at a small hospital at Jalan Ipoh.
from 2 hours become 5 hours.
dont know what happened but during the op, the dr can call & even refer to other dr from HKL (my friend went to HKL after that to check and the dr here remember his case). shit got worst after the OP and he kept getting fever for 3 months.

he then sued this hospital. won. outside court settle. and went to prince court same dr with me to redo his op (he was the one proposed dr.asri to me anyway).

so make sure the hospital/dr you gonna do have a good repo.

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