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post Jan 10 2014, 11:47 PM

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post Jan 25 2014, 01:13 AM

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i plan to apply for BT from my outstanding in RHB cc to my Aeon Watami card. My RHB statement will be out on 26.1.2014 (payment due date =15.2.2014) and my Watami card statement is 10.2.2014

I wish to have the Aeon watami paying my RHB debts after 10.2.2014 but before the RHB cc due date on 15.2.14.

so if i summit my BT application form to Aeon after the CNY; ie on Wed 5.2.2014, do you think Aeon credit can pay in time my RHB debts before due date on 15.2.2014?

Thanks for your input.
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post Jan 25 2014, 09:32 AM

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Thanks for sharing your experience ronnie.

Ok ok cannot kira so much la, 7 working days not enough, 10 working days hopefully cukup. RHB statement hope to receive by 29 Jan 14.

So if i email my BT application form on Thur 30.1.2014, there would be 10 working days right?, in time to clear payment by 15.2.14?

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post Jan 28 2014, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(lamode @ Nov 19 2013, 10:39 AM)
Account updated with payment, trascation date is 18/11/2013.  rclxms.gif
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lamode, your BT is very fast .

How come in my case, i submitted today, Aeon people told me , no gaurnatee can pay my RHB by 15.2.2014.

Then they pointed out to me, the form stated they need 15 working days..

Anybody has transfer BT from RHB to Aoen card? want to knw how many days Aeon takes to pay RHB...
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post Jan 29 2014, 12:03 AM

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is this a loop hole in BT limit?

Say your cc CR limit 50k, you want to do BT 41k, CS said no becos 80% of CL is only 40k.

Then u apply 1st BT 9k, bal CR limit 41k

Then again u apply 2nd BT 9k, bal CL = 32k.

Now u got remaining BT 23k to do, u call the PBB CS and asked, he said you are entitled to 80% of available CL ie 80% x 32k = 25.6k

I asked that PBB CS guy, he said yes, can do 3rd BT for RM25.6k!

Did he know what he was talking, i told him like that I can do BT many times and totalled up much more than the 1 shot limit of 80% of card CL..........., he said yes, he just calculated accordingly.



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post Jan 29 2014, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(lamode @ Jan 29 2014, 12:06 AM)
he is correct, i have done it with AEON and PBB.
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thanks for your confirmation, i cancelled my Aeon BT application, and summitted 3 BT applications in 7 days to PBB, totalling RM41+k, next 6 months work to pay instalment only.........let go my opportunity to earn Aeon bonus points.

Aeon BT officer called today and asked me about my BT cancellation, told her my disappointment why Aeon needs Bank statement and worse why Aoen needs 15 working days?? PBB needs only 7 working days, ans no need to wait for bank statement to come.
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post Jan 30 2014, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(lamode @ Jan 29 2014, 10:15 PM)
mind to share how is the CL comparison between PBB and AEON?

mine one was like PBB 10k, and AEON 24k.
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mine the opposite. PBMG Platinum 50k, Aeon Watami only 30k.

Original plan is to BT to Aeon to earn Aeon bonus point, but i cancelled it this time. Cant take the risk of late payment penalty.

After CNY, i plan to apply BT from my MBB Amex to Aeon.

I will use my MB2U credit card transaction screen shots to apply. If wait for the MB2Card Amex statement (21.2.14) that would be too late as payment is due on 10.3.14.

I summit the BT on 4.2.14, sure more than enough time to clear my MBB Amex debts well before due date 10.3.14, right?

he he we really wanna make full use of the cards.........learning from you guys every day.Didn't know about this BT lobang till MGM mentioned the other day.
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post Feb 14 2014, 12:37 AM

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Has any body done balance transfer for balance transfer payment due??

I mean i have PBB statement recently with three 1st month instalments of BT to pay. Can i do balance transfer of this to Aeon Watami card?
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QUOTE(brotan @ Feb 15 2014, 08:51 PM)
yes can

it is based on your due amount of the cc, doesn't matter the amount is becuz of BT or normal use
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good so we can break our big sum to smaller amount. 32k outstanding from RHB moved to PBB, then only need to pay RM5+k over 6 months. Move the 5+k from PBB to Aoen every month, then becomes monthly RM800+ and the best part can get Aeon bonus points.

This BT game is getting more interesting having played it once, i wont stop... Thanks folks.

Warning-For those who wanna play this BT game, make sure you can pay the monthly statement amount in full on or before due dates.


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post Feb 17 2014, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(JamesPond @ Feb 17 2014, 09:35 AM)
wasted. pbb is one of the best
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last time yes PBB cc was useful, the best? dont know la, but at least got rebate 8% or 12% max RM100 pm, but no more since Aug 2013. Unless i miss out their current promotions ?

Now i use it only for their 0% 6m BT just to pay my outstanding before i managed to get Aeon to pay.

other than that no use to me..........The best now is HL Wise card that gives you RM100 pm, MBB AMex RM50 pm + TPoints, Watami card RM150 per quarter and finally OCBC unlimited 1% CB. PBB ranks low.....the same goes for RHB VS, now also no use already....

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QUOTE(brotan @ Feb 17 2014, 04:47 PM)
pbb i long time never swipe even with the rebate. there's a rebate allocation from pbb monthly for all users.

so even though you qualify for the rebate, but if the amount allocated by pbb is used up, then also zero rebate

so you need to spend fast and even that not guaranteed. so i don't use it
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yes, you must be fast. MAke all the swipes early in the month.
Swipe 8x get 8% or 12x get 12%, max RM120pm.

The promo from Jan-Apr 2013, i got max RM120 in all 4 months. Then it was another (more complex spend criteria) promo May -Aug 2013, i got once only once RM100 (max) out of the 2 months i tried.

2012 Promo May-Aug i got 3 x RM100 (max) as i missed out the first month.By the time you saw the advert, it is too late to win even if you join.

The promo Sep -Dec 2012, again i missed out the first month (Sep), the other 3 months - i got RM120 max, RM120, and RM98 due to miscalculations - so rather good CB i would say, but too bad so long already still no new CB promo...........

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QUOTE(determine85 @ Mar 12 2014, 05:26 PM)
Hi bros need help!

I have applied to mbb previously for my BT, but took a long time no reply so I applied to hsbc which they approve within 2 working days. then 1 day later MBB told me they approve my BT also. I tried to call cs to ask MBB to cancel it they say cant as the application is already approved. what should I do now?? I dont want to be paying for 2 BT interest!

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i have cancelled Watami approved BT before. Easy if they have not issued out the cheque payment. But even if issued if cheque still not cleared they can also do a stop payment, the Aeon BT officer lady told me.

You must write in email/fax with a phone call as well, insist you want to cancel that BT or else you are going to pay for nothing. Speak to BT officer not the cc CS.
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post Mar 13 2014, 01:12 AM

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in my case, the BT officer will call or sms say the BT is approved. You cannot ignore the sms if you dont want that BT.inform them fast.

If the BT officer calls, then straight away tell them you want to cancel that BT.

The other day i cancelled the Watami BT, i went tru quite a few very helpful Aeon BT officers, they helped me checked and found out that the cheque had been banked in with batch and transaction numbers. They also checked and found that however the cheque was not cleared and agreed to cancel payment. No charges was incurred in my case.

But my reason was not i applied for 2 BTs just to cancel one later on. I cancelled it becos the payment was late and i will get penalty charges, so i told them instead of waiting for the Aeon cheque to clear, i have to rush to pay my outsanding now and on that they agreed to cancel.

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QUOTE(brotan @ Apr 14 2014, 05:54 PM)
if you owe rm10k today, BT rm10k. then spend another 5k, then BT rm 5k is ok

but if you owe RM 10k today, BT 10k. don't spend but BT another RM10k to the same bank, i am not sure
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can, i have been doing that, using BT to pay BT installmenmt, looping again and again, quite fun and keep our own money..
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QUOTE(bearbear @ May 12 2014, 12:50 AM)
i like how captain put it...if you need to rely on bt to get out of trouble then by all means cut your cc usage.

i always promote use of bt especially when there is no fee or interest involve. my old man hate banks and think they are always up to something and rightly so. BT is a trap to trap people who use every single cent they have. it is only for people with discipline.

much like people who commit themself to save via insurance linked saving plan, i fd the excessive cash from bt and treat the monthly installment as forced saving.

but to be frank, it is very easy for that devil side of you to think....hmm why not use the cash for a brand new phone or smtg.

Handle with care as it will burn wink.gif
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Yeah, if you are careful you make money, if not the bank will make money out of you.

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post May 17 2014, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(tbheng @ May 16 2014, 01:37 AM)
Besides keeping track of the gains (interest from putting the money in FD, reward points), I also keeping track of 2 other things:
1. The current available CL - to ensure the next BT request can go through without problem (< 80%)
2. The accumulated outstanding BT - to ensure the FD is enough to cover this at any point in time.
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You wont believe it the total BT i have accumulated is >100k, i owe credit card so much! interest free...who cares.

The total gain as per your calculation is RM1134 for 6 months, that is assuming I am using my own money to pay the 6 monthly installments to all of them right? But I am not, i am looping them back and forth. My gain is more that what your table showed?
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Tips for those who BT alot and running out of credit in Aeon.
1)BT more to PBB, no need statement, can BT very early to get ready.
2)Not enough, BT to RHB as well, use paid up, old statement also can,as long as due date still not over.
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QUOTE(Jason @ Jun 25 2014, 11:46 PM)
Just curious, is there an early termination fee levied on BT on AEON? E.g. Outstanding RM5000 @ AEON that is going to be billed RM1000 per month for the next 5 months, but I paid full RM5000 to AEON this month on top of whatever expenses @ AEON.

Reading the T&C, no early termination was mentioned

EDIT: And more importantly, will I still earn the points?
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BT back and forth yes, I did that for a while already.
Infact i used the zero fees BT to make PBB pay 10k and another 15k to Aeon Watami in a period of 2 weeks, and PBB still approved that. Thinking RHB 0% BT offer was closing on 30.6.14, I BT another RM7+k credit from RHB to Watami as well.

Ended up i "overpay" (using money from PBB and RHB) Aeon Watami by quite a big sum. I was hoping that overpayment can increase my limits for more BTs from other cards to Watami, but alas, it was not allowed. That officer told me i already used up all the 80% of my CL, the "over payment" made cannot used to do more BT!!

I didnt care, went ahead and still submitted more BTs applications.
And true enough my subsequent 2 BTs from MBB Amex and Citibank cc to Watami were rejected

I argued in that case i want my money back, but they asked about details of the payment which i could not answer.

They want to know how payment was made, cheque number, date, amount etc etc....imagine the trouble to call PBB and RHB to get those details.

But still got it done after some time, by then my next statement for Watami came and the amount was RM15+k, deducted that for sure, not enough, Aeon retained another RM1400+ (for upto date payment ,i supposed), and finally i got a refund of RM5+k. Yeah still free money advance RM5000+ from the bank (RHB to be exact)!

Yes you do get points for the "early settlement", i saw they gave me 15945 points for that statement which showed total current balance =RM0.


Lesson to learn:
1) dont over pay thinking you can use it to increase your BT limit if you have achieved max 80% CL
2)Over doing BT and have "over payment" with Watami - you can demand for refund. They charged me RM2.00 for IBG to CIMB SA.

Latest update: Just last week i summitted another BT (RM4500 from MBB AMex) to Watami and it was approved! I checked my total BTs amount with watami and my total BT instalments paid till that date, deduct that = my outstanding unpaid BT instalments. That amount was still more than 80% of my CL . ?Some error somewhere with Watami becos they approved my BT..Who cares, just submit more BTs till they are rejected, no harm trying.




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QUOTE(Jason @ Jun 27 2014, 10:54 AM)
Thanks for sharing.
rclxms.gif bravo brother!

1. To BT RHB credit +RM7k to AEON, do you need statement?
2. Demand refund with RM2 IBG fee, do you need to find out payment details from PBB and RHB to do this? Sounds very troublesome. Wow, this is effectively cash advance with a RM2 fee! rclxms.gif

Good job in bringing BT to another level.  thumbup.gif Really got many hidden sifus here, rather than the empty tin cans that make noise and assume they know everything.
Paper to print the form & sign, scan, emailing it, and the time spent.
Takes me about 10 minutes to do all that plus to double check everything.
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1)yes RHB needs statement
2)Yes you need to provide details, even the date the cheque was banked in and the location as well!

Once you know how to get the details of that BT payment, you can get interest free Cash Advance with a RM2.00 IBG fee. But must have money ready in case your plan back fires.



QUOTE(codeiki @ Jun 27 2014, 11:19 PM)
guy3288 really bringing BT to a whole new level...
I advance BT to AEON as well. However, I think from the official T&C,
"Minimum amount of balance outstanding to be transferred is RM1,000 per plan and up to a maximum of 80% of the available AEON credit card limit minus any utilized amount"

credit limit 100k
already BT 50k
still has limit for another 50k, the amount that allowed to BT is 50k x 80% =40k

Total BT after completion is 90k/100k
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i see ... that could be the reason why my own estimate was wrong, not mistake from Aeon , that BT approval was proper. Now, no point we try to estimate or even ask the CS whether we can continue to apply the BT or not, just simply send in and see... just BTed my RHB oustanding back to Aeon Watami.
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QUOTE(zr125 @ Jul 2 2014, 11:45 AM)
Bro, how many days after BT approved payment reflected in RHB?
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bt from aen to rhb
emailed 27.5.14 , rec call/verification 27.5.14, apprved 28.5.14, money in 3.6.14

oh yes i oso bt fr RHB to aeon back,
emailed 28.6.14Sat, rec call 30.6.14 Mon, apprved 30.6.14, money in dont know when yet.

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