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RAMChYLD
post Mar 21 2012, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(mckevin @ Mar 21 2012, 04:08 PM)
play ori so wont forever alone
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PS3 = can get PSN account for Malaysia (this after getting blasah by a handful of gamers back in 2010), no forever alone.
360 = no XBL account for Malaysia, forever alone anyway unless your conscience allows you to lie to MS that you're Singaporean (a lot of ppl already blasah MS, but they're not giving in), and even that no convenience of buying online games using credit card, have to leave house to buy gamecard.

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post Mar 21 2012, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Mar 21 2012, 04:53 PM)
Get the one with the exclusives you want to play with
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Fix'd tongue.gif Nowadays most games coming out are multi-platform anyway. It's the exclusives that drives the decision factor now. And even then Exclusivity is region-oriented. For example, FFXIII is PS3 exclusive in Asia/Japan only, other regions get the game on both 360 and PS3.

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post Mar 25 2012, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(fang_abcd @ Mar 23 2012, 02:12 PM)
buy ps3, i own all,
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I actually also own all. My biggest beef is that XBL not available in Malaysia. That means no online games in Malaysia, no buying games online when in Malaysia. Yes, you can lie. But getting caught can be a serious offense (I was caught for using Singaporean uncle's address by my mother. Kena marah teruk teruk and told to not support people who don't want our business, bla bla bla, and then forced to close the account).

And all those excuses I'm hearing about why XBL isn't available in Malaysia from various sources is just frustrating.

QUOTE(fang_abcd @ Mar 23 2012, 02:12 PM)
xbox have nice controller, but american games sux
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I'm opposite. I actually think American games are better (in fact, I hated how there are a few American games that was never released in Japanese market during the PS2 era). Even though PS3 is region free, I still end up buying US version anyway just in case (oh, forgot about this, PS3 is promised to be unconditionally region-free with games and mostly region free except for certain services (US version no iPlayer, UK version no Netflix, Asia version don't have anything). 360 is region-optional, publisher can choose to make game region free or region-code. Almost all the A-list games are unconditionally region-locked due to that).

QUOTE(fang_abcd @ Mar 23 2012, 02:12 PM)
ps3 can watch blu ray, music, multimedia,  xbox only for game (multimedia not that nice)
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My experience is different. PS3 can watch BR, music, photos. But streaming support sucks- it failed to handle certain types of codecs used in video files. XBL DLNA is just as limited as PS3's, but when you use MCE Extender mode, everything also can play provided you have the Media Player Classic filters and FFDShow installed on the stream server. Yeah, that's cheating tho.

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post Mar 28 2012, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(fang_abcd @ Mar 28 2012, 10:07 AM)
that y it depend of gamers, gamers like me, i dont like and i cant play FPS games,  those halo gow  l4d for me is a shitgame.. and thats y im not concern about the online functions,since im an offline player.
i prefer RPG game or anygame that have more interesting story mode,  asian have more history and more ideal to make game 

stil, i buy xbox because of the controller,  and i still feel shame for ps3 not to design a better contoller... doh.gif

so far, my xbox is use to play game like froza,  and other sport game
and ps3 i play rpg game
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Well, after my attempt to buy a game from TSB had me stuck in traffic jam when getting to SS2 and back, and my car almost blocked by pasar malam when I went to buy said game, and then experiencing Steam, I decided that I prefer to go through hassle to get games and prefer to buy online and download immediately, and then after experiencing PSN and Steam, decide that I prefer to pay for the game immediately using credit card.

I dun really like FPS games either, but there were a few platformers that came out for US PS2 that wasn't released in Asia region.

I do agree that the DS3 controller is a wreck of a design and needs a better third party design tho. SSFIV is difficult to play on it.

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post Apr 5 2012, 01:32 PM

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Well, rumor says that PS4 probably will only be unveiled later this year and will only go on sale next year. Hardware also less than flattering (seriously, x86_64 and not PowerPC like Cell? Why!?!). And of course still need to wait a few years for price to drop. And then there's the teething issues...

Yeah, still worth it to go for PS3 first.

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post Apr 6 2012, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Apr 6 2012, 08:30 AM)
This year bro  blink.gif , I thought they haven't had a blueprint of it yet. Anyway it's worth buying the PS3 now. Xbox 360 you have to pay live like forever  whistling.gif .
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What ElReg said. This year announce. Next year only release.

http://www.reghardware.com/2012/03/29/sony...r_2013_release/

Sos say to expect a surprise announcement on E3 2012, apparently Sony jelly after Nintendo announce Wii U and rush to build next gen PS (which probably explains the off-the-shelf components).

Also, they're rubbing off the numeric scheme (probably either to follow Apple Mac OS release and/or to avoid number 4): Instead of being called PS4, it's now called PS Orbis.

One more important note: Apparently it has anti-used-games mechanism to block second hand games. If Sony is avoiding the number 4 because they think it will mean their downfall, they're not thinking properly...

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post Apr 15 2012, 11:38 PM

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Well, I agree with yayiyu here. XBL has no official support for Malaysia. Here's where it gets bad: XBox Live requires you to buy membership to play online (you can renew membership monthly, every three months, every 6 months or every year). No support for Malaysia means you cannot buy the membership using Malaysian credit card. Also, no Malaysian credit card support means cannot buy any games online for that matter. You can go look for shops that carry SG prepaid cards, but eh, inconvenient already, and it still doesn't work for certain games unless you tunnel using VPN (for some stupid reason, the XBL Arcade also implement IP check with some games and DLC).

Second problem: If get caught, very tiresome... My mother caught me using one of my Singapore uncle's address. Kena scolding for few hours, then forced to close account.

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post Apr 16 2012, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Apr 16 2012, 10:24 AM)
Xbox Live also has this feature  smile.gif

to TS, the key thing here is what game you wanna play. For example, you cant play GOW on PS3 and you cant play Uncharted on Xbox360
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Uh, bro, what you talking about? The GOW games is a PS3 exclusive tongue.gif Everyone with a PS3 and PSP loves Kratos, right? tongue.gif

Anyways, XBox more mah huan to own for Malaysians. PS3 at least officially support Malaysians when online is concerned. Even if you can get your conscience to shut up about lying about your location (and also manage to successfully keep it secret from other family members), you have to do VPN tunneling for the sake of some games, and then you actually need to go out to buy membership card and game credit prepaid cards.

As mentioned before, I have all 3 consoles. But I somewhat feel that my 360 is a letdown by not having official Malaysia XBL support. It has a lot of awesome functions (MCE Extender and Kinect) and even some great JRPG/CRPG exclusive games. Just that too bad they dun let Malaysians play or buy games online officially.

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post Jun 15 2012, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(paige.pc @ Jun 14 2012, 06:02 AM)
So my decision made. Get xbox , dont leave ps3 haha
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If can afford, having all 3 is the best. nod.gif
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post Jun 15 2012, 09:57 PM

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Well, in the end, least hassle to own is the PS3 since it's fully supported in Malaysia and comes with full online service and official support, and oh, Built-in Blu-Ray 3D player. Also, playing online multiplayer is free.

But if you're willing to take some risks, getting a 360 and lying to it saying you're in Singapore is better for it's superior controller layout and Kinect, and the better Media Center Extender compared to Sony's rudimentary DLNA Client. Downside of that? Well, you must delve into the arcane world of VPN tunneling and routing if you want to buy certain games because MS got do IP check for some downloads. Also, must pay for online multiplayer, which is a PITA because cannot use Malaysian cards and must physically go out to buy gold cards.

And oh, 360 has region lock depending on the game publisher. PS3 completely doesn't have thanks to a boycott threat and a promise by Sony early in the development of the console. Most Malaysian 360s are Taiwan versions, meaning can only play games that the developer mark NTSC-J playable.

In the middle is the Wii- has official support in Malaysia, but no Malaysian Wii Shop- you must still lie to the thing and say you're Brazilian to get Wii Shop. Wii also has region lock, but Malaysia units are US models, meaning they play NTSC/UC discs.

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post Jun 22 2012, 09:36 AM

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In the end tho, for me:

PS3:

Pros:
- Guarantee Region-Free for PS3 and PSN games
- Free online multiplayer
- Blu-Ray playback
- SEN store officially available in Malaysia

Cons:
- No full PS2 BC (Sony forces you to re-buy PS2 games from SEN to play your PS2 titles, and the choice of titles is crap)
- Sony unfairly remove features from the console if they feel like it (like slim PS3 has no PS2 BC even though they could've just carried down the software BC from the phat PS3 since it's all software)
- Main (DS3) controller design is dated and not ergonomic.
- only two USB ports!

360:

Pros:
- Excellent Media Player Extender software
- Good ergonomical controller
- Futuristic motion control with Kinect
- Full old XBox BC via software emulation.

Cons:
- HD optical media playback dead in water - 360 can only play back HD-DVD with an optional drive, which is dead and discontinued. MS did not add support for USB Blu-Ray drive.
- No official Malaysia support- meaning no XBox Live and no Store. Even if you lie, some store downloads are located on servers that check your IP address and block you if your IP address is from outside the store's country.
- Region-Locked.
- Need to pay to play online (assuming you get around Malaysia support by lying, saying you're Singaporean)

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post Jun 29 2012, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(y3ivan @ Jun 22 2012, 07:05 PM)
- heavily rely on xbl for social network and gaming services
I actually see this as a bad. Heck, even Valve sees this as bad and why their friendship with MS went sour.
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post Jun 29 2012, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(y3ivan @ Jun 29 2012, 06:42 PM)
Some ppl like it some dont. Mostly casuals like it, cos it integrate well for XBLA games and 1st party game.
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Well, I don't like it because of the old problem of no official Malaysia support. I've heard all sort of stupid stories ranging from Piracy to corporate infighting, and frankly I'm tired of it. Even Apple can sell music and movies in Malaysia now. Why can't MS just launch XBL in Malaysia and get it over with?!?
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post Jul 15 2012, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 13 2012, 08:21 PM)
XBOX INFINITY will ownz all.
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Owns all? How when you can't have XBL Malaysia?

Sorry, I just have to get it out of my system. Not happy that we cannot have XBL Malaysia.

 

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