thanks for the suggestion, did thought about buying a vertical grip..but cant seem to find it for A580..was wondering if those third party ones are good enough..

Newbiee, how did you find out that your remote is working fine if you couldn't trigger your camera? Did you verify that by triggering another camera? Could it be that there's no battery? Did you trigger it in bright sunlight?

The ir light will still light up and show even the battery is weak. But the light will not reach the camera's receiver.

After u change the battery, try the trick again, you'll notice how much brighter the ir light will be in comparison.

This one guy told me that there is this software bug for A77 that cause the camera to turn off automatically during shooting. And after it turned off, we need to wait about one hour until it can be turned on. I told him that automatic turn off probably because of overheating. But he said it was not overheating problem. He said that it's a software bug, so I say just send to Sony for repair because the product is still under warranty. Then he said that if send to Sony, Sony would not repair it regardless of the warranty. Sony would say that there is nothing wrong with the camera. He also said that little hardware problem and software bugs are hard to detect so I guess what he wanna say was even though there was a problem, but since Sony can't detect it, so Sony would refuse to fix it. So generally, basically, what he tried to say was that if we have that software bug, there's nothing we could do about it rather than just accept the fact that we are the unlucky ones who got a defect product from Sony. What do you think? Do you think it's fair that Sony refuse to fix it because they can't detect the problem? And we are supposed to live with a defect product that we paid thousands, just like that?

Thanks guys for the replies. I let the guy know already that he can contact customer tribunal if Sony still refuse to fix it even with the video proof.
That's what I thought too but this guy said that it's not overheating problem. He just say it's a software bugs that cause the camera to shut off suddenly anytime during shooting. He said this is a rare case. Only one or two cases only. Rare case I don't mind if it can be fixed. What I mind is that Sony refuse to fix it. That's what got me all crazy just thinking about it. It's like every A77 out there it's like a ticking bomb just waiting to get that software bugs and worst thing is the warranty is useless even if you just use it for one day after purchased.

1 month old a77 body only for 2.8k nice deal??

Weather seal and SSM. Both is enough a reason for Sony to slap an asking price of twice the Tamron's price. Not to mention newer coating technology, solid build and to have a Sony badge on the lens itself.

Ohh.. My budget also very tie .. RM1300-1400 is new one or second hand one ?
Any shop recommenend ?

I watched Sony ads say it is dust & moisture sealed lens.

Under my own understanding, why I often see people percept it as weather sealed. the term are totally different as the weather sealed is the higher feature than D&M sealed. ie: d&m sealed mean it will protected device from moisture and dust, but untested to run in very cold/hot temperature. for weather sealed, it has been tested to ensure this device can be use in particular cold/hot environment.

to Newbiee, hehe i could rather spend +500 at tamron for them to integrate a HSM. You have to think of this, your camera now is very very quick can do auto focus, but it was limited due to no SSM on lens, it taken too long for the entire process to snap a photo (from zoom zitttt...., focus zit zit to snap chit chat). Is good idea a77 to pair with 6150ssm IMO. Unless you like to shoot MF, then seriously SSM/HSM is a purely waste.

It is really up to personal preference, I prefer AF lens should have SSM(sony)/HSM(sigma,tamron)/USM (canon). if SP90 have HSM i will WOW! 

when is photography fair?? n u sure can get same offer like last year??

the Speed may not be required, but in high FPS (eg 5fps) the SSM is better in Accuracy then screw driven.

i have both KM1735, 1635Z, and its super wide,... but the SSM of 1635, does play a role in speed and accuracy, the speed is Obvious when the AF is hunting (missed) in lowlight.

i owned a 1750, and tested the 1650. seriously, the 1650 does play a speed role after 24mm, there is a short turn around from infi to mfd back to infi.

wrong lo, small aperture make ppl think is the aperture hole size is small; unless small aperture number/value = big hole aperture  haha kidding

I also correct on blue text statement  

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Added on July 12, 2012, 8:18 am

nice macro! think this more easy as it most time static or walk super slow 

just say, its a free gift. u didnt choose sony, sony choose you.