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 GENNEVA MALAYSIA, some facts.., READ and UNDERSTAND

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celicaizpower
post Oct 8 2012, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 8 2012, 07:19 PM)
Do u really believe this ah? Im sure ure much smarter than this rite?

1) 500kg of gold would cost appox RM90 million. Would anybody be carrying RM90 million in a SUV?
2) How did your friend know they were unloading gold? Was the contained marked with the word 'GOLD'? Did they have a big fanfare when they did the unloading announcing to everyone that 500kg of gold just arrived? How then did he or anybody else know that such an amount of gold was brought in?

Dont just believe nonsense and spread nonsense. Sometimes we all need to use our own intelligence to fathom the actual logic before we even contemplate believing in something. This is the same cancer that gets thousands of people cheated every single day. God has given all of use brains and intelligence. Use them wisely.
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1. Honestly, you have to ask the company why the use harrier... I have no idea...

2. He was there inside the office during the raid, while trying to collect his gold.

Well, He is my very close friend. I trust him. For you on the other hand, it is your choice to trust I not. I am not forcing you bro biggrin.gif
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post Oct 8 2012, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(KamikazePg @ Oct 8 2012, 07:25 PM)
Almost all Genneva customers who sell back ("surrender") their gold in August 2012 did not get back their money and was told to wait...wait ...and wait...with no date given....Finally, they said Oct 1, they will get the money and Oct 1 is DOOMSDAY! What a co-incidence! or What a WELL-PLANNED exit!

They honor the contract to take back the gold...but they dont bother to honor the contract to pay u!

And all the CON-sultans know about this problem and pleaded with the customers to renew contract and get iPad....

Those who never sell back are not aware of this problem... shakehead.gif
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I think it was the other way round, Was informed that people who deposited money did not get their gold and was told to wait till 1st Oct.

This is still a 50-50 thing. Gold was really delivered to Genneva Malaysia but then got rushed on the same day. How to say who's fault is this.

Can be Genneva for the failure to distribute the gold.

Can be BNM for rushing on the "pay day"

Can be BNM again also for telling a local bank to stop supplying gold to Genneva. Thus causing Genneva having issues to source for gold. (I used to work with that local bank)

Again here I stick with what I say earlier, if Genneva is truly 100% scam company then their exit skills is damn awesome! notworthy.gif (this one need to wait result of the investigation 1st.)
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post Oct 8 2012, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(jmunchar @ Oct 8 2012, 07:34 PM)
Sorry to say..
But did ur friend actually see the gold or just see boxes being brought in?
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Yup he did, but I did not ask him either was it in boxes or not.

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Sharing to the rest, here are some feedback in video (with faces):

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLR-g...5owSFf-fLTWu_Ii

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post Oct 8 2012, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(terry8 @ Oct 8 2012, 07:52 PM)
You claim you are not an investor or consultant and yet you seem to know or hear so much what they do.

Then you make claims you business in Russia

Then you claim you do not invest in Genneva because you have better investment

Then you claim you hear BNM carted away 500kg gold

People in this forum - please ignore this guy because we will not have logical or thought provoking forum with him making nonsensical statements. Just ignore him
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Bro, you have summarized me wrongly. shocking.gif

1. My close friend is an Agent for Genneva, Genneva was another platform that I was planning to diversify my ROI and also when I get bonus next year, but then this happens... haih.. now I need to look for another place to diversify.

2. No, I do not own a company in Russia (I wish I did own Instaforex, then I will be smack rich). I was talking about Instaforex another company which got blacklisted by BNM.

3. Yup, my close friend above was there, heck he was there since 10am on that day till the next day.

You should look back earlier in the pages of this thread. You will realize that I am no Genneva supporter neither am I a anti-Genneva guy. smile.gif


Added on October 8, 2012, 8:04 pm
QUOTE(KamikazePg @ Oct 8 2012, 07:55 PM)
Yes, 2 groups of people were seriously hurt in the exit plan...
1) The group that surrender the gold and didn't get back the money....and
2) The group that surrender the money and didn't get back the gold....
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hahahahahah... you got this right bro... thumbup.gif well I really hope this settles soon and the guys either get their money back, if possible la.. smile.gif

QUOTE(MakNok @ Oct 8 2012, 07:58 PM)
These scenario is all Genneva fault.

If they really into "Gold trading" only....mean they should have given the gold on spot.
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shakehead.gif haih....

True, if Genneva was like Poh Kong, Habib and the rest, sure this would have not happen... but then in the 1st case who would have put money in Genneva if it was not for the hibah rite? smile.gif

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post Oct 8 2012, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(KamikazePg @ Oct 8 2012, 08:17 PM)
Just a point to ponder.....

Have you seen all the videos about all the non-Muslims CON-sultants boasting about the HIBAH?

Very soon, they will be supporting HUDUD too!

Go HIBAH, go HIBAH, go HUDUD, go HUDUD!

Just wonder whether they know what they are mumbling about or just parroting what their masters told them....
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hehehehe, well I hope not. I would prefer the law to stay somewhat as-is basis. I just can't bear the thought to see people arm less and sorts...

QUOTE(MakNok @ Oct 8 2012, 08:17 PM)
you mean hibah from your "cool" investment in overpricing Genneva gold which can only recoup in one year time???

isn't it insane? doh.gif
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I really don't want to talk about that cause it deviates from the topic. Really. smile.gif
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post Oct 9 2012, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(b00n @ Oct 8 2012, 09:09 PM)
@celicaizpower
Search for Swiss Cash and understand the "blacklist" issue.
I.e. Swiss Cash was never registered in multiple countries yet is prosecuted internationally.
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Thanks, will read about it later. smile.gif

QUOTE(prophetjul @ Oct 8 2012, 09:31 PM)
True or noit?

In USD terms, from approx USD750 to USD1780 is oni about 250%

iN rgt IS EVEN LESS......hiow 480% AR? 

btw GOLDENGOOSEY pAT LU YOUR FRIEND AR?
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Sorry I don't know who is that.

QUOTE(scorpio55 @ Oct 9 2012, 01:11 AM)
How can they be like Poh Kong, Habib etc. when their Paid Up Capital is only RM50,000???
Is RM50,000 enough to decOrate the offices?
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No comment on this bro cause I don't know about this. Like most of us, I too seeking answers.
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To the rest,

met my buddy yesterday nite double confirm with him, was informed that the car that brought the gold was 2 Toyota Fortuner. Apologies for the wrong info earlier. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Oct 9 2012, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(babycherie @ Oct 9 2012, 07:49 AM)
Hey guys..geneva will it be reopen anytime?
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Genneva is currently under investigation. What was commonly shared in the earlier threads was that the result of the investigation should come out sometime on the 14th-15th October. From there BNM would be able to inform all of us if either Genneva Malaysia is a legit or scam company, Until this report comes out Genneva would not be able to operate. (logically la)
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post Oct 9 2012, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(aladdin @ Oct 9 2012, 10:24 AM)
IMO, BNM won't let Genneva off so easily. Reason? Genneva will sue BNM back and ask for losses (found not guilty), which could easily cost XXX Millions.
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Possibily. But here in Malaysia it is very rare to see a company sue government. Normally it's the government that "whack" the companies.

QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Oct 9 2012, 11:11 AM)
got a new interesting info 2day, thought i'd share it with u guys. About BNM raiding genneva, and 3 other gold traders bcoz of suspected ponzi scheme is only their 2nd reason. The main reason is illegal depositing n transferring illegal funds .
This is what i am told, as genneva is a sdn bhd, it is only required to present their companies account, and where they acquired their profit in 'general' only. What BNM and the police are interested in is who are the gold buyers.
let's say im a drug kingpin, have 5 million in cash from selling drugs. Where should I keep my money? in the bank? of coz it will raise the alarm at BNM. So, I buy gold from genneva. When I buy 5 million gold from there, genneva does not inform BNM that I have 5 million worth of gold with me. I get the hibah for 3 month and then I wont sell back the gold. So, I just keep my gold somewhere safe and no authorities will know I have them.
2nd scenario- I am an overseas vip who have 'certain' interest in the politics in Malaysia, and want to give funds to a certain VVIP here. I just send some1, buy 1 million worth of gold at genneva, and give it to the VVIP. And the M.O is the same as above. Keep the gold somewhere safe, and no authorities have a clue. ( some just keep it at genneva )
So, the reason for the raid, take of the files and confiscate the gold, is to know what's the names of these high 'investors', and taking their assets from them.
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Nice theory man, Money Laundring at it's basic. thumbup.gif

Now I wonder could this be the primary reason that why both RMP & CAD sync the raid at the same day.

E.g: To hammer down a suspected big international money laundring operations....
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post Oct 9 2012, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Oct 9 2012, 11:49 AM)
I wonder why you spent so much time here trying to justify that genneva has done no wrong and is a god send opportunity.

You have no direct or indirect interest in genneva and you said you had investment products that pays much better than genneva.

Now is office hour and its a real wonder you are here doing so much "charity work".
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Point 1: No, Never in any of my post have I said that Genneva is a god send. I am only looking for facts to know either Genneva is scam or not, but till now most that come out are speculations/assumptions. Maybe the earliest time I can get my answer is when the investigation report comes out. Which will be too late for my friend.

Point 2: Had interest with Genneva before but never put money. Please google "diversification"

Point 3: None of your business. icon_rolleyes.gif

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