QUOTE(gark @ Jul 21 2012, 12:20 PM)
2. Pay back 'interest' at 2% per month so after 12 months equal to selling price.
you still get scerwd of your capital.
GENNEVA MALAYSIA, some facts.., READ and UNDERSTAND
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QUOTE(gark @ Jul 21 2012, 12:20 PM) 2. Pay back 'interest' at 2% per month so after 12 months equal to selling price. you still get scerwd of your capital. |
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QUOTE(PatEagle @ Jul 30 2012, 02:15 AM) There are lots of rumours and unsubstantiated claims by individuals just about anything under the sky out there. ALL the more, one should beWARE of such companies...........its appears to be UNREGULated....Facts: GENNEVA Malaysia Sdn Bhd is a gold trader and does not fall under the purview of Bank Negara Malaysia nor Securities Commission Malaysia. Buying and selling gold or silver is not under the purview of Bank Negara Malaysia, thus BNM does not issue any license to any company who wish to conduct such activities. so whos to protect YOU? |
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QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Jul 30 2012, 03:21 PM) If they only provide/give you statement showing how many gold has been bought/invest by you than pleased avoid this trading transaction. Cause 200% they don't even have physical gold in hand (this type of scams has been known globally), what ever they have in hand just for showing only to attract their next victims.. |
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QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Jul 31 2012, 12:38 PM) Actually they got but keep it all at BNM, BNM monitor the their sale should not exceeds their stock. Stock mean in WEIGHT not RM, my group doing some research with Financial, IPTA student & several Govt Agency group on Gold Trading 2 or 3 years back... Where did you get this? Any link? Thanks Added on July 31, 2012, 1:38 pm QUOTE(EddyLB @ Jul 31 2012, 01:19 PM) For that matter, all banks do not have physical money as well Actually they do. Only part of.....Thats the deposits where they do fractional banking.It is just that the confidence with the banks is strong. Where they book as liability and lend out up to approx 10 x the amount! All dirty derivatives...i speculate thats the same woth gold.....only hold part of. i think thats why most banks do not entertain delievry of the physical gold. This post has been edited by prophetjul: Jul 31 2012, 01:38 PM |
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QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Jul 31 2012, 02:09 PM) QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 31 2012, 01:34 PM) Then says WHO? Issit a perception or fact? Added on July 31, 2012, 2:15 pm QUOTE(EddyLB @ Jul 31 2012, 02:10 PM) Yes, you are right. I think Central banks all over the world calls it Statutory Reserve Requirement (SRR). Ie % cash they retained from deposit, and lend out the rest. If I'm not wrong, BNM's SRR is 4% only. That means, when we deposit RM100, our physical cash only left RM4 in the bank, and the rest all lend out. Then when the loan installment comes back to the bank, the bank lend it out again. The multiplier could be more than 10x Easy.............ask yer banks who sells you gold in gold accout whether they have the physical backup.I hope oldskolboyz is right. The banks have physical gold backing to every single dollar. Then the gold we buy from banks are all safe. But I also doubt the banks do this. Hope I am wrong i used to invest in public bank gold a/c. When they first started, they allowed request for physical withdrwals. Then 6 months along, they stopped the practice. i wonder why? This post has been edited by prophetjul: Jul 31 2012, 02:19 PM |
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[quote=Oldskolboyz,Jul 31 2012, 02:41 PM]
Then says WHO? Issit a perception or fact? Added on July 31, 2012, 2:15 pm Easy.............ask yer banks who sells you gold in gold accout whether they have the physical backup. i used to invest in public bank gold a/c. When they first started, they allowed request for physical withdrwals. Then 6 months along, they stopped the practice. i wonder why? [/quote] Why you confused between investment in Gold Stock Market Vs Physical Gold. Bank Gold A/c was investment in Gold Stock Market where invest by their Treasury Division. We are talking physical gold trade either in coin, pallet or etc here. Actually bank stock was in BAR, not even process to coin/pallet shapes yet. When got buyer than they process it, normally in limited edition. If I remember correctly last time got a few bank do sale it like UOB, KFH & BNM.. If bank sale Kijang Coin that one BNM product.. [/quote] i have invested in , GLD, coins, bars, numis, ...but i have yet to hear to Gold Stock Market! But i am sure they wpuld have denominations of 1g,5g,10g, 100g and 1kg bars....is they wanted to. BUT i doubt they keep any phsyical. i think you are refering to GLD as in the SPDR Gold Shares ? If that be the case, why bother to pay the bank a premium of 4 to5% spread while you can invest directly into the stock? |
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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Aug 2 2012, 05:14 AM) But BUT they are not under Bank Negara............ Added on August 2, 2012, 9:49 amNEWS FLASH =========== NEW STRAITS TIMES (01 Aug 2012)(p B4 Biz Times) ========================================= Bank Negara warns public of fake letters Published: 2012/08/01 KUALA LUMPUR: Bank Negara Malaysia (BNM) yesterday advised members of the public to exercise due caution when dealing with companies or individuals using acknowledgement letters purportedly issued by Bank Negara Malaysia to solicit investment in financial schemes involving gold and other precious metals. The central bank said it has received enquiries from the public in relation to companies which represent themselves as scheduled institutions with BNM to solicit investments from the public. “Bank Negara would like to state that under the Banking and Financial Institutions Act 1989, a company that conducts either leasing, factoring, development finance or building credit activities only obtains a written acknowledgement from the bank. “Such an acknowledgement letter by the bank does not amount to a business licence or approval by BNM in respect of the scheduled business stated in the acknowledgement letter, or other businesses carried on by the scheduled institution concerned,” it said in a statement. The central bank advised the public to exercise due caution when dealing with companies or individuals that use such acknowledgement letters, adding that a register of these scheduled institutions is maintained for statistical purposes only. Meanwhile, if a scheduled institution does not, or ceases to carry on its scheduled business, BNM would proceed to withdraw its acknowledgement letter. For further information, members of the public may refer to the Financial Consumer Alert which is available on BNM website, http://www.bnm.gov.my. Bernama Read more: Bank Negara warns public of fake letters http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM.../#ixzz22JUgxoo4 EVERYONE WHO HAS EVER BEEN APPROACHED BY A GENNEVA FOOT SOLDIER TRYING TO RECRUIT HIM TO JOIN THE RANKS OF THE GENNEVA ARMY WOULD HAVE BEEN SHOWN A COPY OF A BANK NEGARA LETTER OF “APPROVAL” FOR GENNEVA TO CONDUCT “LEASING AND FACTORING” WHICH MAKES GENNEVA A BANK NEGARA “SCHEDULED INSTITUTION”, THUS BY THE GENNEVA REASONING THEY ARE APPROVED BY BANK NEGARA TO DO GOLD TRADING. WHAT ON EARTH HAS LEASING AND FACTORING GOT TO DO WITH GOLD TRADING?? THIS BNM WARNING MAY PRECISELY BE FOR THE PURPOSE OF WARNING THE PUBLIC ABOUT COMPANIES SUCH AS GENNEVA MALAYSIA SDN BHD. http://www.martinlee.sg/genneva-gold/comme...#comment-133250 This post has been edited by prophetjul: Aug 2 2012, 09:49 AM |
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QUOTE(wjmatcool @ Aug 3 2012, 10:40 PM) From March until today, I can see all the rubbish comments posted in this forum. i cant recallNo one seems to understand the business model. First of all it is not an investment scheme, therefore has nothing to do with BN approval. It is not taking any form of deposits. It is just a gold smith shop that sells you gold and give you a discount which is given back to you not at the time of purchase but spread over a few months. Just imagine you are buying a gold ring from Poh Kong or other gold smith shop and they give you a discount. The discounted amount is given back to you spread across a few months. That's all !! You call this a scam or illegal?? Come on .... go to the shop and sit down there and see for yourself. Don't just sit in front of your PC and start googling here and there to find negative remarks like what you can see in this forum. There are lots of cyber troopers out there who are working for other competitors to write negative remarks because of jealousy seeing the business growing so quickly. Do you know that there are quite a few more companies doing the same thing but their names do not appear anywhere and you guys have not heard of them before and cannot even google their company name? For the commenter "lunchtime" who screams that the company is still owing his wife some outstanding amount from his previous purchase when the company was raided by BN, why can't he just pay a visit to the office at Kuchai Lama and look for the owner who sits at the top floor everyday? He will be glad to see you and settle the problem because he is not hiding somewhere where you cannot find him !! Unless of course you are just a cyber trooper trying to tarnish the image of the company ! a) that Genneva sells jewellery b) you have toi wait for weeks to receive your gold. Jewellers deliver over the counter c) you hve to sign a contract with lots of provisions for buying a simple gold BAR, not jewellery But of course the jewellers charge the same exhorbitant prices for gold BAR ........ Guess there are still SUCKers abound..... |
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QUOTE(MBC270cdi @ Aug 5 2012, 02:25 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Just my 1 cents opinion, don't shoot me, please. I for one, thankful to Genneva for this extra pocket money. Yes, I am a fool, but I think I am better fool than those who still support the current government and those who still align to MCA, MIC, Gerakan etc. Thank you and happy forumming. |
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 4 2012, 09:36 AM) i cant recall i CANT BRAIN THIS! HELP! a) that Genneva sells jewellery b) you have toi wait for weeks to receive your gold. Jewellers deliver over the counter c) you hve to sign a contract with lots of provisions for buying a simple gold BAR, not jewellery But of course the jewellers charge the same exhorbitant prices for gold BAR ........ Guess there are still SUCKers abound..... WHY PEEPLE DO THIS? |
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QUOTE(pokemonkiller @ Aug 7 2012, 07:25 AM) But are you very successful in your investment so far and very rich already or just merely an employee of a firm who is just a small player scratching your head every day to see where is the best place to invest your hard earned money? An investment is an invesment, whether it be Rm1 or Rm1x10^6. What i can see is he is refering to RIISKS......thats all part of investing, is it not? |
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QUOTE(chabalang @ Aug 7 2012, 09:32 AM) Isn't it OBVIOUS enough? It is even splashed on The Star today's headline: If BNM has BLACKLISTED an company, does that not make their biz illegal? HELP! 77 companies blacklisted by Bank Negara http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...6655&sec=nation Genneva Malaysia Sdn Bhd is Number 22 in the list: http://www.bnm.gov.my/documents/2012/Finan...lert_listEN.pdf If people still want to jump in, GOOD luck to them... |
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QUOTE(PatEagle @ Aug 7 2012, 05:43 PM) You guys missed me huh? i wanna my Syariah compliant product..............Genneva Malaysia Sdn Bhd is very much alive. Check out their BRILLIANT newly launched website at http://www.gennevaworld.com.my The golden goose is very much alive and kicking! Wanna buy GENNEVA Gold, feel free to contact me directly at goldgoose.my@gmail.com Have a blessed GOLDEN day! |
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QUOTE(PatEagle @ Aug 9 2012, 01:14 AM) I echo pokemonkiller. “If you’re not brave, you will always be poor.”Instead of being armchair critics, go visit Genneva Malaysia's office to find out more. Alternatively, visit Genneva Malaysia Sdn Bhd's newly launched website at http://www.gennevaworld.com.my and read the FAQs ... especially point #16. To that.... THERES A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE AND BEING STUPID IS NOT BRAVERY. FOOLS AND THEIR MONEY ARE SOON PARTED Added on August 9, 2012, 8:20 amoH.....i am not brave..........BUT I DONT THINK* I AM poor..... This post has been edited by prophetjul: Aug 9 2012, 08:20 AM |
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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Aug 9 2012, 08:01 AM) Haiyo....waste my time to read the links. Still don't know what is their business Genneva Biz model: We know exactly how some companies make money : Bank makes money through lending money Telco makes money through telephone / internet service Oil company sells petroleum Property developer sells properties etc etc Genneva ? ROC also don't have the financial account. Very mystical like Harry Porter. Like a curtain over the company nobody see what is behind the scene..... SUCKING OUT SUCKERS TO PAY FOR THEIR OWN "HIBAH" This post has been edited by prophetjul: Aug 9 2012, 09:01 AM |
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