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 GENNEVA MALAYSIA, some facts.., READ and UNDERSTAND

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post Aug 4 2012, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(wjmatcool @ Aug 3 2012, 10:40 PM)
From March until today, I can see all the rubbish comments posted in this forum.
No one seems to understand the business model.
First of all it is not an investment scheme, therefore has nothing to do with BN approval. It is not taking any form of deposits.

It is just a gold smith shop that sells you gold and give you a discount which is given back to you not at the time of purchase but spread over a few months.

Just imagine you are buying a gold ring from Poh Kong or other gold smith shop and they give you a discount. The discounted amount is given back to you spread across a few months. That's all !!

You call this a scam or illegal??

Come on .... go to the shop and sit down there and see for yourself.
Don't just sit in front of your PC and start googling here and there to find negative remarks like what you can see in this forum. There are lots of cyber troopers out there who are working for other competitors to write negative remarks because of jealousy seeing the business growing so quickly.

Do you know that there are quite a few more companies doing the same thing but their names do not appear anywhere and you guys have not heard of them before and cannot even google their company name?

For the commenter "lunchtime" who screams that the company is still owing his wife some outstanding amount from his previous purchase when the company was raided by BN, why can't he just pay a visit to the office at Kuchai Lama and look for the owner who sits at the top floor everyday? He will be glad to see you and settle the problem because he is not hiding somewhere where you cannot find him !!

Unless of course you are just a cyber trooper trying to tarnish the image of the company !
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i cant recall

a) that Genneva sells jewellery

b) you have toi wait for weeks to receive your gold. Jewellers deliver over the counter

c) you hve to sign a contract with lots of provisions for buying a simple gold BAR, not jewellery

But of course the jewellers charge the same exhorbitant prices for gold BAR ........

Guess there are still SUCKers abound.....

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post Aug 4 2012, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(doraemonkiller @ Aug 4 2012, 01:00 AM)
Goldsmith shop? I did not know you all do sell bracelets and chains.
Poh Kong did not give discount on gold price. NEVER.
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Open your eyes and read properly !!

Did I ever mentioned that you WILL get a discount at Poh Kong??

I just told you to IMAGINE the scenario !!!

Also did I mention that Genneva sells bracelets and chains ??

I only mentioned gold !!

You people are really blinded by your mind set and cannot read and understand the full sentence before saying something.

If you go to court guarantee you loose one!

Think out of the box please, not confine yourself inside the box


Added on August 4, 2012, 9:57 am
QUOTE(wodenus @ Aug 4 2012, 12:48 AM)
So why aren't they suing anyone for libel yet? smile.gif


Added on August 4, 2012, 12:51 am

Stopped reading here. Maybank made Rm4.7 billion profit last year. Do you think they can't stand a few people withdrawing FDs? smile.gif
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When did I mention Maybank is loosing money??

People are withdrawing savings from their FDs which is a threat to the Banks.
If no one deposits in the Bank they go bankrupt !! Understand??

This is what they are afraid of. They survive because you are giving your money to them so that they can make billions and in return give you back a miserable amount of 3%-4% per year !!
Don't you feel like you are all suckers then??


Added on August 4, 2012, 10:14 amGo visit these websites.

Don't tell me the Government's Ministry of Human Resource also supports this scam huh?

Don't tell me Rosmah also fully supports the scam huh?
Then you need to tell the PM about it lah !!

http://www.mohr.gov.my/pdf/genneva_square.pdf

http://www.pmo.gov.my/datinrosmah/?dsr=pho...id=view&num=580

This post has been edited by wjmatcool: Aug 4 2012, 10:14 AM
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When ppl withdraw FDs, banks can sell/issue Bonds to raise cash... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(wjmatcool @ Aug 4 2012, 09:50 AM)

If you go to court guarantee you loose one!



Added on August 4, 2012, 10:14 amGo visit these websites.

Don't tell me the Government's Ministry of  Human Resource also supports this scam huh?

Don't tell me Rosmah also fully supports the scam huh?
Then you need to tell the PM about it lah !!

http://www.mohr.gov.my/pdf/genneva_square.pdf

http://www.pmo.gov.my/datinrosmah/?dsr=pho...id=view&num=580
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Boss, please go to court and take on Bank Negara and Islamic Authority. So many people here ask you to sue them. How many times do they need to tell you ? That is the only way to win back confidence ! Show all the "morons" here they are in fact a big MORON. Don't let the authorities bully you. You are hero, not pirates ! They are waiting to see an innocent company win against the ruthless authorities !

BTW,
The Ministry of Human Resources speech is dated 25 Feb 2011 --> outdated by one and a half years
The FLOM photos is dated 20 Mar 2012 --> outdated by 5 months

BNM warning is on 13 July 2012 --> latest news
Islamic authority declaration of non-halal is on 11 July 2012 --> latest news

You got the latest updates arr ? Don't lah give old news laugh.gif
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Ask Rosmah to sit at a press conference to blast the critics lo rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(wjmatcool @ Aug 4 2012, 09:50 AM)
People are withdrawing savings from their FDs which is a threat to the Banks.
If no one deposits in the Bank they go bankrupt !! Understand??


Not really. Money in banks is insured by the government up to Rm250K IINM. So even if the bank goes bankrupt the insurance will pay it.


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post Aug 4 2012, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Aug 4 2012, 12:05 PM)
Not really. Money in banks is insured by the government up to Rm250K IINM. So even if the bank goes bankrupt the insurance will pay it.
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Sorry, I mean the Bank itself goes bankrupt.....NOT the depositor.

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QUOTE(wjmatcool @ Aug 4 2012, 12:33 PM)
Sorry, I mean the Bank itself goes bankrupt.....NOT the depositor.
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If the bank goes bankrupt the insurance will pay it.. look it up at http://www.pidm.gov.my/ smile.gif


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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Aug 4 2012, 11:22 AM)
Boss, please go to court and take on Bank Negara and Islamic Authority. So many people here ask you to sue them. How many times do they need to tell you ? That is the only way to win back confidence ! Show all the "morons" here they are in fact a big MORON. Don't let the authorities bully you. You are hero, not pirates ! They are waiting to see an innocent company win against the ruthless authorities !

BTW,
The Ministry of Human Resources speech is dated 25 Feb 2011 --> outdated by one and a half years
The FLOM photos is dated 20 Mar 2012 --> outdated by 5 months

BNM warning is on 13 July 2012 --> latest news
Islamic authority declaration of non-halal is on 11 July 2012 --> latest news

You got the latest updates arr ? Don't lah give old news laugh.gif
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Hello, you think I am blind like you ah?
Of course I know the news are dated when.

What I trying to tell you is can a scam company continue scaming from day one when BN raided till now with court cases still ongoing and still operating and expanding everyday with Rosmah also involved?
The FLOM photos are from the official Prime Minister Office website......you mean the PM website is also bullshit and scam?


That is why people like you "thinks" that you know a lot and are doing a great job by looking at websites only and listening to rumours only.
Do you know that there are high profile people trying create a scene and make it appear in the papers, etc?
You don't know isn't it ..........well too bad......you have got limited resources then.
Go and do some more homework.

All the bosses would have been shot dead by now since they are also operating in China...... but how come the business is booming like mad there??

Why Singapore Govt. never arrest the bosses since they are also operating there openly??

By the way nobody including me is asking you to dump in your precious money on this. So don't get too exited. I am just trying to open up you people's eyes to see a bigger picture.
There are many things going on behind the scene which you all do know of and will never know just by reading BN or any other websites.


Added on August 4, 2012, 12:52 pm
QUOTE(wodenus @ Aug 4 2012, 12:40 PM)
If the bank goes bankrupt the insurance will pay it.. look it up at http://www.pidm.gov.my/ smile.gif
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Hello, you think I don't know what you mean ah?

Your deposit is guaranteed by the insurance up to RM250K should something happens to the Bank.

I am talking about the Bank itself going bankrupt not the customer.

This post has been edited by wjmatcool: Aug 4 2012, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(wjmatcool @ Aug 4 2012, 12:49 PM)
Hello, you think I am blind like you ah?
Of course I know the news are dated when.

What I trying to tell you is can a scam company continue scaming from day one when BN raided till now with court cases still ongoing and still operating and expanding everyday with Rosmah also involved?
The FLOM photos are from the official Prime Minister Office website......you mean the PM website is also bullshit and scam?
That is why people like you "thinks" that you know a lot and are doing a great job by looking at websites only and listening to rumours only.
Do you know that there are high profile people trying create a scene and make it appear in the papers, etc?
You don't know isn't it ..........well too bad......you have got limited resources then.
Go and do some more homework.

All the bosses would have been shot dead by now since they are also operating in China...... but how come the business is booming like mad there??

Why Singapore Govt. never arrest the bosses since they are also operating there openly??

By the way nobody including me is asking you to dump in your precious money on this. So don't get too exited. I am just trying to open up you people's eyes to see a bigger picture.
There are many things going on behind the scene which you all do know of and will never know just by reading BN or any other websites.
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Typical MLM ppl talk...

"Come to our office and we'll tell u more" smile.gif

No open transparent info available til u join them/step foot in their office

Then they will have ways to sweet talk their ways to your wallet
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 4 2012, 12:53 PM)
Typical MLM ppl talk...

"Come to our office and we'll tell u more" smile.gif

No open transparent info available til u join them/step foot in their office

Then they will have ways to sweet talk their ways to your wallet
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Hello Accountant, there you go again.

This is not an MLM company lah.
From which website you got the info this is an MLM company?


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QUOTE(wjmatcool @ Aug 4 2012, 12:49 PM)
Hello, you think I am blind like you ah?
Of course I know the news are dated when.

What I trying to tell you is can a scam company continue scaming from day one when BN raided till now with court cases still ongoing and still operating and expanding everyday with Rosmah also involved?
The FLOM photos are from the official Prime Minister Office website......you mean the PM website is also bullshit and scam?
That is why people like you "thinks" that you know a lot and are doing a great job by looking at websites only and listening to rumours only.
Do you know that there are high profile people trying create a scene and make it appear in the papers, etc?
You don't know isn't it ..........well too bad......you have got limited resources then.
Go and do some more homework.

All the bosses would have been shot dead by now since they are also operating in China...... but how come the business is booming like mad there??

Why Singapore Govt. never arrest the bosses since they are also operating there openly??

By the way nobody including me is asking you to dump in your precious money on this. So don't get too exited. I am just trying to open up you people's eyes to see a bigger picture.
There are many things going on behind the scene which you all do know of and will never know just by reading BN or any other websites.

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Boss, YAB Rosmah's pictures only for "show" only lah. The "morons" here won't believe one. Because if your company bankrupt (say only, not suggesting it will), Rosmah and those high profile people won't guarantee and dig her pocket to return the money to the investors. Rosmah will say "hey BNM already warn you, why you all so stupid still give money to the company ?" or "Kau muslims why so stupid. Ni bisnes tak halal. Kan Jabatan Agama nah kasi warning ? Padan muka kau...."

So, the real "culprits" are still BNM and Islamic Authority. Can we sue them arr ? Please ? If not, when I approach people, people google and on the first page of search results are all the negative news for Genneva. How I going to sell lah ?

Boss, when you open another company to sell gold, do forget to include me ya.....
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QUOTE(wjmatcool @ Aug 4 2012, 12:49 PM)
Hello, you think I don't know what you mean ah?

Your deposit is guaranteed by the insurance up to RM250K should something happens to the Bank.

I am talking about the Bank itself going bankrupt not the customer.


Isn't "the bank itself going bankrupt" the same as "something happens to the bank"? smile.gif

This post has been edited by wodenus: Aug 4 2012, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Aug 4 2012, 01:10 PM)
Boss, YAB Rosmah's pictures only for "show" only lah. The "morons" here won't believe one. Because if your company bankrupt (say only, not suggesting it will), Rosmah and those high profile people won't guarantee and dig her pocket to return the money to the investors. Rosmah will say "hey BNM already warn you, why you all so stupid still give money to the company ?" or "Kau muslims why so stupid. Ni bisnes tak halal. Kan Jabatan Agama nah kasi warning ? Padan muka kau...."

So, the real "culprits" are still BNM and Islamic Authority. Can we sue them arr ? Please ? If not, when I approach people, people google and on the first page of search results are all the negative news for Genneva. How I going to sell lah ?

Boss, when you open another company to sell gold, do forget to include me ya.....
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Hello Son, whether it is positive or negative news, I don't care a damn.

Terror people like yourself should be aware that everything under the sun is controlled by you know who.
So don't talk stupid things like sueing.

What I cannot tahan is that there are lots of people wasting all their precious waking time sitting in front of the PC and blogging, chatting non-stop whole day long trying to tell people how much and what they hear, read and know.

Although some info is true but there are lots of info that normal people cannot access unless you have got people inside.

So while you are still alive and healthy go and do something useful lah like cut your house grass, wash your car, mob the house, paint the house, help your wife to cook, play with your kids, etc.



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QUOTE(wjmatcool @ Aug 4 2012, 12:59 PM)
Hello Accountant, there you go again.

This is not an MLM company lah.
From which website you got the info this is an MLM company?
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 4 2012, 01:27 PM)
Sorry blush.gif

Ponzi whistling.gif
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That shows you know nothing about the business model.

You think I don't know what is Ponzi?

I have tried all types online ponzi, also known as HYIP (High Yield Investment Programs) which are actually all bullshits.
Lost some money of course but little bit only lah.

If you want to see how many online Ponzi are existing now and still operating, you can visit this website and maybe try one and get some experience too.
Their websites are beautifully designed and looks like real.

http://www.moneymakergroup.com/HYIP-High-Y...nvestme-f9.html

I have been in so many MLMs.

So don't tell me how to differenciate between Ponzi and MLM !!!

Maybe you just read about them only in the toilet newspapers and internet.

Have you ever venture into them to get the feel it ....yes / no??


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QUOTE(wjmatcool @ Aug 4 2012, 01:27 PM)
Hello Son, whether it is positive or negative news, I don't care a damn.

Terror people like yourself should be aware that everything under the sun is controlled by you know who.
So don't talk stupid things like sueing.

What I cannot tahan is that there are lots of people wasting all their precious waking time sitting in front of the PC and blogging, chatting non-stop whole day long trying to tell people how much and what they hear, read and know.

Although some info is true but there are lots of info that normal people cannot access unless you have got people inside.

So while you are still alive and healthy go and do something useful lah like cut your house grass, wash your car, mob the house, paint the house, help your wife to cook, play with your kids, etc.
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No leh boss, now I cannot sell Genneva gold because of the bad news. Situation is bad leh....

You dont care a damn because you are rich. But I am just a agent. You got to look after me mah. I can't sell means no income, Later my house sure kena lelong. When I dont have house, where got grass to cut ? No car how to wash ? No house how to mob and paint ? My wife keep nagging me and my baby have to buy milk powder leh....

How ? cry.gif cry.gif
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Why so rage? hmm.gif

(1) If just a client? Why bother with the basthing

(2) If a CONsultant/staff, the manner of the posting here makes me worry for my friends who put their money with this firm...their people all macam pasar malam vendors sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 4 2012, 01:42 PM)
Why so rage? hmm.gif

(1) If just a client? Why bother with the basthing

(2) If a CONsultant/staff, the manner of the posting here makes me worry for my friends who put their money with this firm...their people all macam pasar malam vendors sweat.gif
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Tell your friends no need to worry. Enjoy life while still can.

Everything that is going to happen or has already happened is all written in the book upstairs.

But sorry... so far no one has access to this book yet so cannot tell what is going to happen.





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