QUOTE(T630 @ Jul 12 2012, 10:06 PM)
Just finding this Genneva company didn't submit their 2010 audited account to SSM. If company okay WHY this happen ?GENNEVA MALAYSIA, some facts.., READ and UNDERSTAND
GENNEVA MALAYSIA, some facts.., READ and UNDERSTAND
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Jul 12 2012, 11:08 PM
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Jul 12 2012, 11:10 PM
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Jul 12 2012, 11:27 PM
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Jul 12 2012, 11:32 PM
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Jul 13 2012, 07:50 AM
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Genneva Sdn Bhd never filed in their financials because they opted to be an exempt private company. It is permitted by ROC
Genneva Malaysia Sdn Bhd did filed their financials, but only up to 31/12/2009 |
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Jul 13 2012, 08:01 AM
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Too busy creating value for its clients, no time to engage an accountant and an auditor to produce audited accounts?
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Jul 13 2012, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 13 2012, 08:01 AM) Too busy creating value for its clients, no time to engage an accountant and an auditor to produce audited accounts? Pink - i can imagine the big guys thinking:"Aiya - don't lar bean counter me and kacau kacau audit me. I bz U know - see how many customers and investors i got All throwing $ at me and saying i'm their best-est investment hahaha" Oh well... these "investors" are so lucky to get in at the bottom (and hopefully ran out before the music stops). Dang - i wish i was that lucky and smart. All my parents' fault for making me logical and numerically sound. This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jul 13 2012, 11:01 AM |
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Jul 13 2012, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 13 2012, 11:00 AM) Pink - i can imagine the big guys thinking: Even a jackpot machine can be a sound "investment", if u sit down on it at the right TIMING when its about to spew cash "Aiya - don't lar bean counter me and kacau kacau audit me. I bz U know - see how many customers and investors i got All throwing $ at me and saying i'm their best-est investment hahaha" Oh well... these "investors" are so lucky to get in at the bottom (and hopefully ran out before the music stops). Dang - i wish i was that lucky and smart. All my parents' fault for making me logical and numerically sound. It's all about "timing". So, we better don't bash Genneva so much This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jul 13 2012, 11:06 AM |
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Jul 13 2012, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 13 2012, 11:05 AM) Even a jackpot machine can be a sound "investment", if u sit down on it at the right TIMING when its about to spew cash eh? I was aiming at the "investors" that kept saying its dah best-est west-est, not the company wor (which we all know...)It's all about "timing". So, we better don't bash Genneva so much hehe - and worse still, these "investors" dragged in their friends and family (i personally know of 2 such happening related to my family and my lady friend's family). |
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Jul 13 2012, 06:46 PM
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As I have said before , I already invest in Genneva but I invest with money that I can afford to lose . I know of some ppl who refinance their houses so they can invest in Genneva . I think this is plain greedy and too risky .
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Jul 13 2012, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(Empathy @ Jul 13 2012, 06:46 PM) As I have said before , I already invest in Genneva but I invest with money that I can afford to lose . I know of some ppl who refinance their houses so they can invest in Genneva . I think this is plain greedy and too risky . I wish you luck.. Even if you dont lose money or even make money because you are the earlier batch of ”investor”, do you think the company is paying you interest with their profit or money from the newer ”investor” ? If your profit is sourced from the latter, do you feel good taking it ? Or you just dont care as long as it is cold hard cash ? There are many other way to make money, bro..... |
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Jul 13 2012, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Jul 13 2012, 07:12 PM) I wish you luck. Unfortunately some people dont care where the $ comes from, just like those who dont care about blood diamonds.Even if you dont lose money or even make money because you are the earlier batch of ”investor”, do you think the company is paying you interest with their profit or money from the newer ”investor” ? If your profit is sourced from the latter, do you feel good taking it ? Or you just dont care as long as it is cold hard cash ? There are many other way to make money, bro..... Dont worry Eddy, karma + payback's going to be a b*tch to these people This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jul 13 2012, 09:16 PM |
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Jul 13 2012, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 13 2012, 09:16 PM) Unfortunately some people dont care where the $ comes from, just like those who dont care about blood diamonds. I hear that this month Genneva offer 3% hibah to the investors invest this month. Anybody know this ? Are this is the trap ?Dont worry Eddy, karma + payback's going to be a b*tch to these people |
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Jul 13 2012, 11:48 PM
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Jul 14 2012, 07:36 AM
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QUOTE(Empathy @ Jul 13 2012, 11:48 PM) Yes ... I heard about this from my agent yesterday. He said 3 percent hibah for 6 months . Minimum 50 grams . Looks like the rates are diminishing......from 2% p month.. Now its 0.5% p month......money troubles? i find it hillarious when ppl say: i INVEST with money i can afford to lose. Thats rather oxy moronic IMO if you are an INVEST-oR.... Who wants to lose any money? Unless you are goin to a casino? |
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Jul 14 2012, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 14 2012, 07:36 AM) Looks like the rates are diminishing......from 2% p month. please check properly before u said anything, is 3% per month for duration of 6 month dudeNow its 0.5% p month......money troubles? i find it hillarious when ppl say: i INVEST with money i can afford to lose. Thats rather oxy moronic IMO if you are an INVEST-oR.... Who wants to lose any money? Unless you are goin to a casino? |
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Jul 14 2012, 10:13 AM
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As a responsible and cautious investor, I think we should ask the investment manager,
"How is the money made?" Can any Genneva agent answer this? |
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Jul 14 2012, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(ralphaell @ Jul 14 2012, 10:00 AM) bro, quit nitpicking - 3% / 6mths = 0.5% per month in simple calculation.If U want an Excel calculation, it doesn't run far as the compounding of % pm isn't much difference at 0.5%-/+. For a heavy Kopitiam poster to "logic things out" against investors and heavy posters here, U really do need a good calculator + some logic and i'm assUme-ing U aren't one of Genneva's "investors" still trying to get the gang to "see the light" Added on July 14, 2012, 10:16 am QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 14 2012, 10:13 AM) As a responsible and cautious investor, I think we should ask the investment manager, Occam's Razor cut cut + "follow the $ trail" = "How is the money made?" Can any Genneva agent answer this? Aiya - no eye see lar these "investors", all i worry is that they con oops.. convince other ah sohs and uncles into it too. I hope that Hell has a very special place for these types. This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jul 14 2012, 10:16 AM |
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Jul 14 2012, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 14 2012, 10:13 AM) bro, quit nitpicking - 3% / 6mths = 0.5% per month in simple calculation. how to be 0.5 % per month ? LOL , let say u put in 20k, u will get 600 per month for 6 month. S0= RM3600If U want an Excel calculation, it doesn't run far as the compounding of % pm isn't much difference at 0.5%-/+. For a heavy Kopitiam poster to "logic things out" against investors and heavy posters here, U really do need a good calculator + some logic and i'm assUme-ing U aren't one of Genneva's "investors" still trying to get the gang to "see the light" Added on July 14, 2012, 10:16 am Occam's Razor cut cut + "follow the $ trail" = Aiya - no eye see lar these "investors", all i worry is that they con oops.. convince other ah sohs and uncles into it too. I hope that Hell has a very special place for these types. |
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Jul 14 2012, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 13 2012, 09:16 PM) Unfortunately some people dont care where the $ comes from, just like those who dont care about blood diamonds. It could be the other way around. These investors owed a lot in the past lives, and now have to pay the boss back Dont worry Eddy, karma + payback's going to be a b*tch to these people |
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