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lyn_grayskale
post Mar 27 2012, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Mar 27 2012, 11:56 AM)
Well, Bioware's games have always been very linear for the sake of telling a good story. KOTOR and BG2 are good examples. However, in the past, their games have featured rich conversations with a myriad of dialogue options, charming characters and spectacular side quests that occasionally branches out into something bigger.

Unfortunately, in their pursuit to make the game more accessible to the masses, they decided to simplify most of the things that made their past games great. So now it's more like go to planet X and kill A or go to planet Y and scan for item B. And it goes on, over and over again. Most of ME3's conversations are also very straightforward, it seemed the writers got very lazy and just decided they wanted to conclude the story ASAP so conversations are a one way street.
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Can't fault them as each change is an attempt to address fan feedback - example: Mako exploration removed with resource mining planet scanning to take it's place; further dumbed down in ME3. As well as trying to make it more like 'Halo' and 'Gears of War' (which is actually part of Casey Hudson's vision as per the 'final hours of mass effect' supplement).

I haven't finished BG2 and KOTOR so am unable to grasp the supposed 'decline in quality as some are able to express.. but having finished ME3 a few days ago with an imported ME1/ME2 Shep, my reaction is mixed. From the 'final hours', it seems the final game has been watered down from what they wanted to achieve (ie: multiplayer integration was more ambitious than the final product) due to: (as usual) time and money.

The ending, if taken out of context of the ME lore, is interesting, falling short of brilliance due to its rushed execution. The aim to retain some mystery (quoting mac walters - 'Lots of speculation') is achieved but at the cost of a satisfactory conclusion. I'm fine with cliffhangers that point to a possible tangent into a new game series - it could've been done with a little more refinement and less controversy (probably another year for this).

The horribly tacky parting words of comfort that Shepard is now a legend + the enticement to buy DLC could have been less blunt and worded better - and maybe not displayed in the cheap datapad window.. my only gripe with ME3. I thought it was a prank when i saw the screenshot here some 3 weeks ago..

And the game stayed at the black screen after i click 'ok' - anyone encounter this? (PC version)
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post Mar 28 2012, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(y3ivan @ Mar 28 2012, 10:27 PM)
so the future of gaming is depended on DLCs. Good lord, i better start finding a new hobby.
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not necessarily - the future of gaming may be - gamer funded projects -
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/postud...a-reed-thriller
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post Apr 3 2012, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(seather @ Apr 3 2012, 03:33 PM)
FYI... LOTR movie trilogy ending is still missing 1/3 of the final book tongue.gif LOTR books had a proper closure.. smile.gif

somebody lost the final 1/3 script for ME3 i guess laugh.gif
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Fair enough but:
LOTR movies - lead characters and supporting characters introduced throughout the film adaptation are properly sent-off- elves (grey havens); frodo (grey havens); bilbo (grey havens); samwise (married); ring (in the lava pit); gollum (lava pit); sauron (exploded); aragorn (king and married to arwen); arwen (alive and married to aragorn); except for orc #1,452 (unknown).

ME3 - new entity introduced (reaper child illusion); shepard (gene juice/rubble fodder); fate of all human and alienkind (colors - red, green and blue); everything else (DLC).
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post Apr 5 2012, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(Archaven @ Apr 5 2012, 12:58 AM)
The last battle was really tough for me with all the banshees, marauders and brutes swarming me. That's the only battle that makes me sweat. Perhaps you should elaborate more why is the ending sucks?

For me the game is really awesome, i mean the casting, voice-overs and visuals. It's like watching a movie. I've played all series and this is the best cinematography i've seen to late. Of course my opinion smile.gif.
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Although quite a tough battle for me also, its a step down from the final ME1 and ME2 battles where in ME1 you fight your way through the citadel to bring down Saren in the tower and the giant human/reaper in ME2 - here, it's just hordes of the toughest monsters.. all mashed together in one map.. not very creative at all.

The production values for voice acting and visuals in the ME series are really top notch for sure.

The biggest problem of the ending for me - normandy out running a coloured explosion and crash landing in a jungle with a squad mate i chose for the final mission.

No comment on the child-reaper-maker hologram and the 3 choices as i'm not sure what to make of those for now - its either the most brilliant or the stupidest story element ever in gaming history. This will depend on how bioware intends for us to 'continue the legend of Cmdr Shepard with downloadable content'.
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post Apr 5 2012, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Apr 5 2012, 11:30 AM)
Interesting. I found it quite the opposite. A lot of the decisions i made had impact in me3 and did have closures - some were left unanswered but most did end up fulfilled.
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I found most of the major ME1 and ME2 choices are focused around the genophage (keep maelons cure) and quarian/geth conflict (tali, legion) - the rest are resolved with e-mails, short cutscenes and mostly war assets. Plus theres also dlc consequence from project overlord - a cameo appearance if you spared the characters life..

Really liked how the conrad verner quest is handled and linked to another sidequest in ME1 (which can be easily missed in flux/chora's den) - cheesy ending but its nice.

Other major decisions that doesn't seem to have impact beyond war asset points - saving or sacrificing the council (me1), saving or destryoing the collector base (me2).
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post Apr 5 2012, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(Archaven @ Apr 5 2012, 02:41 PM)
I remembered how ME1 impressed me when Shepard was promoted to Spectre status and motivating the crew. Wow  sweat.gif
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wow.. i just went past that scene in my playthrough yesterday..
yup - moments like these make 'mass effect' so awesome.
this round i am renegade shepard lol.
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post Apr 5 2012, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Apr 5 2012, 04:04 PM)
How many dlcs does me1 has ? I only found one on origin - pinnacle station and a dodgy free dlc called 'bring down the sky'.
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Only 2 - pinnacle station. and 'bring down the sky'.

oooh and 'bring down the sky' is not dodgy at all - very good side quest (considering its free) where you decide the fate of a batarian (balak) and hostages - who may/may not appear in me3 - also affects batarian war asset. compulsory for ME fans.

pinnacle station - is a tournament run thingy - completely optional.
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post Apr 5 2012, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Apr 5 2012, 05:55 PM)
Ahh thx, sounds like a good dlc. I should clarify that i said dodgy because it got me off looking around for the dlc cdkey during the installation. It's not even on Origin for some reason and apparently you have to contact ea for the cdkey. In any case, i got the cdkey from the bioware forum and its working good now.
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Yes - in that in case, it IS dodgy and sloppy to install - a friend had to the same - its a hassle now.. wasn't the case when i bought and registered back in 2008...
I think its not Origin probably because it's free - and knowing EA... well..
And shocking right? FREE dlc with about 1-2 hours of playability that has decisions and consequences - this was Bioware back in 2008.


Added on April 5, 2012, 9:26 pm
QUOTE(Fhaarkas @ Apr 5 2012, 07:16 PM)
you want a new ending?
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Just as well.. not really pushing for a new one.. just REALLY curious how i'm going to build on the legend of Commander Shepard.


Added on April 5, 2012, 9:41 pmNewsflash:

Free DLC due this summer will add new cinematic sequences and epilogue scenes.

Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut is real, arriving as free DLC for all versions of the game this summer. According to EA and BioWare the DLC will expand upon the events at the end of the game, adding new cinematic sequences and epilogue scenes. It will reportedly give fans deeper insights into how their personal journey concludes.

"We are all incredibly proud of Mass Effect 3 and the work done by Casey Hudson and team," said Dr. Ray Muzyka, co-founder of BioWare and general manager of EA's BioWare Label. "Since launch, we have had time to listen to the feedback from our most passionate fans and we are responding. With the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut we think we have struck a good balance in delivering the answers players are looking for while maintaining the team's artistic vision for the end of this story arc in the Mass Effect universe."

Casey Hudson, Executive Producer of the Mass Effect series added: "We have re-prioritised our post-launch development efforts to provide the fans who want more closure with even more context and clarity to the ending of the game, in a way that will feel more personalized for each player."

Mass Effect 3 is out now on Xbox 360, PS3 and PC. The Extended Cut DLC will remain free until April 12, 2014.

sos:
http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/mass_eff...f_the_game.html

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11021386

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post Apr 12 2012, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(samftrmd @ Apr 10 2012, 09:15 PM)
I just heard that there are updates to fix bugs and MP update and Extended cut. Where to download? Need to do from Origin?


Added on April 10, 2012, 9:18 pmJust check rating.

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Last place. sad.gif
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Patch:
In Origin -> Right-click ME3 game -> Check for Updates.

Resurgence DLC:
In Origin -> Right-click ME3 game -> Show game info -> Click 'Add-ons' Button -> Buy Resurgence DLC for 0 points (its free!)

Extended Ending DLC:
Coming soon!

The Sims 3: Asari Homemaker Expansion Pack:
Coming soon 2013

 

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