Mass Effect 3 Spoiler Edition, Discuss about storyline here.
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 Mar 28 2012, 06:13 PM
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The Citadel Godchild: Yo dawg, I heard that the Synthetics gonna always rebel against their organics creators so I made the synthetic reaper to harvest all the organics so that you don't die to the synthetics you made!
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Mar 29 2012, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE(hahli9 @ Mar 29 2012, 12:59 AM) Not happening lol. With games on a massive scale like Mass Effect and the likes, it will cost way more to develop than the measly 5 digit kickstarters you see now. Kickstarters will work with indie games but not with AAA games. Furthermore, ever considered what would happen if an unethical developer starts using kickstarter? Yeah... what do u mean not working?After all, businesses are profit-motivated. As long as a plan works, they'll keep doing it. They keep pushing DLCs because they are getting more profits from doing it. You have to give them a reason to stop doing it otherwise it will go on and it will get worse.  Wasteland 2 collected over 1.5M dollars in funding already backed by so many major industry icons... in case u dunno, wasteland was the main inspiration between games like the fallout series... the start of kickstarter basically means the end for the need of a publisher thus giving the developers full control over the game... Added on March 29, 2012, 1:12 am^ added source for wasteland 2 http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/24/wastelan...coming-to-os-x/ Added on March 29, 2012, 1:25 amAsura's wrath having ending DLC lolx http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/122/122180..._source=twitter This post has been edited by evofantasy: Mar 29 2012, 01:25 AM |
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Mar 29 2012, 01:54 AM
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QUOTE(hahli9 @ Mar 29 2012, 01:30 AM) Welp, I stand corrected. Never heard of Wasteland 2. And Double Fine at 3million too. I'm really impressed. But I don't think this can last in the long run. As Kickstarter becomes more popular and people start donating more, we all essentially become investors and in the end there will be very little post-production profit. As in, everyone who wants the game will donate to get the game. Then very little people will actually buy it once it's released. I can see new companies using this to get started but I don't see how it can work in the long run. These are well respected titles by established developers... If u are an old school gamer, u would identify most of them. Even Razer (Min Liang) donated to Wasteland 2's project... Publishers do get a big cut of earnings, thus removing publishers totally from whole business concept is a win-win for both the developers and gamers... as for buying the game, if u are a great fan of a series which wants a sequel or something, you will definitely get it... and prices will be lower than having publishers into the equation as well don't you think so?» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Also, relevant. Still waiting for the sequel to Planescape to be kickstarted if the guy is interested... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Mar 29 2012, 01:55 AM |
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Mar 29 2012, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(hahli9 @ Mar 29 2012, 04:36 AM) Well that's exactly the point I'm trying to make, people who know them will donate and get the game for free once it releases. People who are interested will donate and get the game for free once it releases. The problem I'm seeing here is once it actually releases there won't be many people left who'd want to buy it since those who wanted it would've already donated and hence there's a total lack of post-production revenue. And companies that use Kickstarter to start up projects would rely on word of mouth to get donations. So, essentially everyone interested in the game would donate and those who already have the game probably wouldn't buy it again once it releases right? I really can't fathom how this will work in the long run. :\ Idk, only time will tell. The final ideas still rest with the developers after all or at least from Wasteland2's development, it seemed tat way with setting milestones based on the amount they get...Spreading through the word of mouth is really acceptable in the current age of web 2.0 which we are in... In fact, it may be the best form of advertising now... You do have a point with people not buying the game when it is out but I think when they propose the idea, I am sure they have already factor in some profit? At times, you can see loads of developers which does it for their passion and was just not having enough funds to make it into a reality... How often do we read publishers like EA/ Activision ruining contents just for profit and even against the will of the developers? Life is more than just making profit especially after watching the video interviews with most of the top guns game designers... But yeah, time will tell... ATM, the Wasteland2 project look to be kicking really well... QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Mar 29 2012, 10:50 AM) A triple AAA game costs millions of dollars to produce. Starcraft 2: Wings of Liberty costed USD 100 million to produce. The development period of SC2 was too long which sorta increase the price... They even remade the game engine at one point... Engines could just be reused or licensed from available engines... Games shouldn't cost that much as well if u factor out the amount it cost for all those flashy cutscenes/ graphics... Good games will be good even in 32bit graphics like all of the older games out there... And I think a big amount also goes to the publisher for the management and publicity?If they say that all they need is 900k to make a good game with an impressive portfolio of success in the past, it isnt a big issue i feel to support them |
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Mar 29 2012, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE(hahli9 @ Mar 29 2012, 09:21 PM) You live because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it! kinda agree on this...I really don't see why they needed to give the Reapers a reason to destroy. They should have just kept the Reapers as this menacing threat that you needed to overcome. No one needs to know why they do it or where they came from. they could at least justify it better i feel... like preserving their race by harvesting other organics or something |
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Apr 1 2012, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(Cyrus2k @ Apr 1 2012, 12:07 PM) Errr, well they did closed it... the ending was allll about Shepard created a legend and been told forever ever after? no closure to the rest of the people such as ur squadmate which u cared about over the course of 3 games... its nt just about Shepard... I won't say its a cliffhanger, it was just poorly done. They should have put up a short CGI for 3 different endings that shows the difference between the final choices we make |
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Apr 3 2012, 01:03 AM
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QUOTE(hahli9 @ Apr 3 2012, 12:33 AM) Every attempt by me to incite discussion on the Indoctrination Theory was shot down by, "Bioware just messed up the ending. End of story. Stop feeding that shit down our throats." ~_~ well i kinda agree with the indoctrinated theory especially after the 23minute explanation video |
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Apr 5 2012, 01:10 AM
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QUOTE(Archaven @ Apr 5 2012, 12:58 AM) The last battle was really tough for me with all the banshees, marauders and brutes swarming me. That's the only battle that makes me sweat. Perhaps you should elaborate more why is the ending sucks? ending is bad cause there is lack of closure especially with ur squad mates which u have such bonds with, introduce something totally new in the final 5 minutes and the ending is totally against what we have been fighting for (the main themes of ME) as well as was totally not like Shepard...For me the game is really awesome, i mean the casting, voice-overs and visuals. It's like watching a movie. I've played all series and this is the best cinematography i've seen to late. Of course my opinion  .^ thus i am a indoctrination theory believer... the ending also introduces plotholes such as the mass relays not causing supernovas, why was the normandy running away etc... i would say the MGS series (especially how MGS4 closes off the series) beats the ME trilogy... mostly due to how the closing was done in ME3... the journey throughout ME3 was great especially the krogan's subplot... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Apr 5 2012, 01:12 AM |
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Apr 5 2012, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(lyn_grayskale @ Apr 5 2012, 10:19 AM) Although quite a tough battle for me also, its a step down from the final ME1 and ME2 battles where in ME1 you fight your way through the citadel to bring down Saren in the tower and the giant human/reaper in ME2 - here, it's just hordes of the toughest monsters.. all mashed together in one map.. not very creative at all. yeah the last 1-2 hrs of the game is bad...The production values for voice acting and visuals in the ME series are really top notch for sure. The biggest problem of the ending for me - normandy out running a coloured explosion and crash landing in a jungle with a squad mate i chose for the final mission. No comment on the child-reaper-maker hologram and the 3 choices as i'm not sure what to make of those for now - its either the most brilliant or the stupidest story element ever in gaming history. This will depend on how bioware intends for us to 'continue the legend of Cmdr Shepard with downloadable content'. especially before the final stage where u talk to ur squadmates? it kinda throw off the momentum and the speeches weren't tat complete to act as a closure thus leaving up halfway... before tat, the game was one good experience for sure... i alt-F4 when i saw Tali suicided by response and reloaded lolx |
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Apr 6 2012, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(Cyrus2k @ Apr 6 2012, 02:19 PM) Well, I'm happy that they are only putting up the extended version of endings and not changing the endings just to pleased the fans indoctrination theory pl0z!!! |
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Apr 7 2012, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(Fhaarkas @ Apr 6 2012, 09:42 PM) Just a question curious to those hating/cannot brain the ending - did you hate Matrix and cannot brain Inception as well? Matrix was pretty straight forward to understand...Inception was at first, then u started to look at the possibilities from the end to the forward which gave u multi theories like how the whole movie was a dream and that his wife was right etc... I love movies like that (just like Memento etc) but what ME3 did was different... The ending goes against the theme of ME3 and all u as Shepard has been fighting for... the last 1 hour in a way doesn't feel like a ME series game... you squad and interaction with them just totally disappear, heck they can mysteriously end up in the normandy =.=" It is not about braining it, just that everything feels so out of place... Imagine u watching LoTR and when Frodo finally gonna destroy the ring after beating Golumn (can be TIM from ME lolx), the spirit of the ring spoke to him and gave him the 3 choice - use the ring and rule, destroy the ring, or be one with the ring... every foundation u built up to the final ending just went down the drain lolx... and yeah after tat decision, u get a 2 minute footage of maybe Aragon and Gandalf trolol... |
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Apr 9 2012, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Apr 9 2012, 05:20 PM) Well, they send workers to help build the crucible. If you have an import, the "abomination" is basically just the Rachni queen, the cutscene all more or less the same just a bit different dialog only. the same here...btw, any of you guys notice that EDI has some mad camel toe in her alternate costume?  » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « [edit] I think this was my most favorite mission in the game. the whole story arc is my fav for ME3... especially the ending =( |
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Apr 9 2012, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(megnamon @ Apr 9 2012, 07:12 PM) ^ yeah , i'm always thinking " mordin , dun u ever2 go up there to release the cure, must auto release or whatever " but still.. i didnt have legion so it was sum geth only lolx... legion died to give personality so that geths acquire the intelligent also very sad except they dun mourn , just shepard n tali sitting there talk. Legion just was ignored n never talk abt him after that  so yeah the geth got owned in my story  |
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