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Mahathir Mohamed
post Mar 22 2012, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(leggedy @ Mar 22 2012, 01:24 PM)
the yellowish effect of ur water will never be gone bro..as long as u still continue the use of black water, the water will remain the same..

Jz like wmkr said,  keep it simple, no need use blackwater..old birds here do not suggest anyone to play with blackwater or ph up or ph down or any chemical that will trigger the water hardness or pH level of the water..jz do at least once WC a week..and ur aro should be healthy as it grow..playing with all these blackwater, etc etc water chemical thing a, is like treating a human with testestorone and estrogen from time to time..imagine this week i inject high dosage of testestorone to u, u suddenly become damn man, voice rough, wuah super man..then next week, i inject lotsa estrogen into u, u sudden become pondan..suffer u know bro..

So ur aro same thing..keep it simple..dun use blackwater..weekly water change..ur aro adapt to the weekly water change routine..then it will be healthy as it grow
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actually i have stop using black wateer as i notice thats the main reason the water become yellow..then while doind the WC i read the bottle..stated..add black water can increasecolour..i was like..woah!!i didnt know that..put 1 cap and then remember back why i stop in the 1st place..so i learn my lesson..will stop adding it..
Mahathir Mohamed
post Mar 22 2012, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(wmkr @ Mar 22 2012, 02:44 PM)
agreed.. if u want to play with blackwater or ketapang leave's then get a red.... biggrin.gif
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heard of ketapang leave..but what is the purpose of it?and why dark water is ok for red?hmm..too general but if anyone rajin enough to explain would be great.. notworthy.gif
Mahathir Mohamed
post Mar 22 2012, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Travies @ Mar 22 2012, 04:59 PM)
red aro needed more acidic water to live. compare to gold aro.


Added on March 22, 2012, 5:00 pm

wow this aro is so nice. may i know what breed is that? malaysian gold? but the gold scale not that obvious.
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so am i right to say ketapang leave will increase acidity?
Mahathir Mohamed
post Mar 22 2012, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(leggedy @ Mar 22 2012, 06:53 PM)
bro wmkr said, 'blackwater = extract of peat and ketapang leaves'
This shuld already answer the question..
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Ooppps..sorry..totally overlook..i did some research as well but the other forum say its good for even mgbb but as i was advise here its best for red..hmm..i'll avoid it then..after all i want clear water..not yellowiah water..
Mahathir Mohamed
post Mar 23 2012, 07:36 AM

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QUOTE(fishboy @ Mar 22 2012, 09:45 PM)
mg from assanikah bro  colour scale me also dont know ar heheh hope other sifu complain sikit  nod.gif
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U also hv mg from assakinah?
Mahathir Mohamed
post Mar 23 2012, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(fishboy @ Mar 23 2012, 01:10 PM)
yes bro from haji suhaimi yr aro  also from thr ?


Added on March 23, 2012, 1:12 pm

wah all aro very nice ar  thumbup.gif
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yup..from hj suhaimi..up your aro pic la bro..your aro colour also so-so ar?
Mahathir Mohamed
post Mar 27 2012, 09:34 AM

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my mgb just died la..damn..anyone know where to get a good and small golden highback..change breed coz out of budgetla..damn again..wmkr..please notify me once u have the price aite?
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post Mar 27 2012, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(pigpig @ Mar 27 2012, 12:09 PM)
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bro...seriously im sad now..the qaro already recognised me..and become excited when i come back from work..will swim towarsds the front part of aqua to parade..what happen?i wen to sgpore for 2 days..my aro have the attitude of teasing the carp that i buy for her..chase halfway and stop..the carp will panic and swim all over the aqua..before i leave i bought few ringgit worth of carp..ussually in a day it will finish it up..most come to most 2 days..but before i left i notice the new batch of carp always run and hide at the pump..what happen when i come back is the pump not working..few carp stuck at the pump and no water flowing..water is like pea soup..everything in it dies..but 2 small carp and 1 bandaray survive..but seriously heart broken seeing my aro which once swim gracefully now dead..just 2 days can kill all of em..i should just starve him while im away..damn it..


Added on March 27, 2012, 12:25 pm
QUOTE(wmkr @ Mar 27 2012, 10:12 AM)
sorry for ur lost, as for hb u can find it at a lot of lfs now.. they are selling at around rm350-500 per piece at size 4-5 inch
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thanks bro..most likely will drop at AVSA to check on HB..

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post Mar 27 2012, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(Spook @ Mar 27 2012, 03:35 PM)
Sorry for you lost mate.... mind sharing you got ur mgb from assakinah ? How is the fish, good quality...cause i was thinking of getting one from him
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his mgbb is ok..but need to choose wisely..make sure not DE..unfortunately i picked a female so colour wise is not that awesome..but who can tell when the aro is 1 year old..the haji also is willing to share knowledge and gave you guarantee as well if its turn out to be something its not suppose to be..just bring it back and he will replace new one..just go and see..if you're ok just buy..can nego a bit also..
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post Mar 31 2012, 06:53 PM

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guys..i have welcome new mgbb xb to the house..i'll upload the pic later...

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post Mar 31 2012, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(fishboy @ Mar 31 2012, 11:20 PM)
bro whr u buy yr new aro rclxms.gif
 
and update my mgbb in black tank enjoy any comment are welcome wink.gif

http://s826.photobucket.com/albums/zz183/s...=video00001.mp4
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From a breeder recomnended by one of the member in this thread..wkmr..thsbks bro..the xb mgbb is top noych..i'll upload the pic later..


Added on March 31, 2012, 11:33 pmSifu's need advice..im planning to setup a sump tank..but my aqua dun hv hole at the bottom..my friend said can use pipe to suck the water from top using a strong pump..any advice on what to do..

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post Apr 1 2012, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(pigpig @ Mar 31 2012, 11:38 PM)

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Ni bro..pure square..4x1.5x1.5..no partition..no hole..simple square aqua..
Mahathir Mohamed
post Apr 1 2012, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(pigpig @ Apr 1 2012, 10:51 PM)
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Thats what i thought as well..n after thinking bout it overnight..i think d best solurion is to buy a canister pump..which i did jz nw..3lvel of filtering plus uv..i hv setup d pump..wat impress me is dat its so quiet..but wat scare me n worry me is dat d water look like its barely move..will it clean d water or not..need to check again tmorrow..i hv a question here..i heard to much of bio ring n coral will affect aqua ph lvel..1 lvel i place carbon+white filter..1lvel is bioring +white filter..last lvel is coral +white filter..i hv check the ph lvel n its 6.5..n my aro keep on openibg the mouth n closing..a bit worried though..any advice sifu..


Added on April 2, 2012, 6:35 amAnother casualities..my 2nd aro died..i bought a canister pump to avoid same thing but it died as well..not sure why but hv to do with the new filter..i felt like im at the bottom at the moment..i guess i'll leave the interest for a while n just rare small fish 1st..hv lost few thousand in a short period of time..2nd aro is mucj more dissapointing..3 days n its gone..kinda dissapointed knowing that d 2nd aro colour is nice..

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post Apr 2 2012, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(leggedy @ Apr 2 2012, 08:08 AM)
sorry to hear ur lost bro..

Apparently, i think u really need to know how the water works well before spending on this expensive hobby..

2ndly, you're too impatient in fish keeping..fish keeping requires great patient bro..
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Bro leggedy..i basiccally learn on hw to keep water quality clean n good from research..trial n error but mnage to keep d 1st aro for a month before the carp stuck at the pump incident..gt a new one..first 2 days is ok..gt a canister pump on the 2nd day..set it up until 2am ysterday..fish look ok..ph a bit low..bt looks ok..woke up at 5am n d fish already dead..google to find the reason n i found out that it might be due to new aquarium syndrom..as i change the filter media i actually done d biggest damage by removing all the good bacteria..i hv no clua on wat happen..too bad as the 2nd aro is nice..bit sad actually..that felliw is aggresive..kinda miss him..


Added on April 2, 2012, 8:51 am
QUOTE(hou @ Apr 2 2012, 08:14 AM)
bro..sorry for yr lost.  sad.gif
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No worries bro..will quit yhe hobby for a while until i hv some cash..

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post Apr 2 2012, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(leggedy @ Apr 2 2012, 01:51 PM)
bro..based on what u've explain..

1) ure too impatient..though u might know the risk on what ure doing, still ure rushing on things..

2) with the old water still in there while u only introduce a canister filter, that wouldn't even harm your aro a bit..old water, new medias, i see that as no risk towards ur fish..your tank only 1 arowana, even if the ammonia level starts to climb, it wouldnt be this quick to kill ur aro..so if ure saying install new canister kill ur aro is wrong..doesn't make sense..

3) so, old water, new medias, new canister..ur aro died within hours..why?

Simple, there gotta be some grease in the new canister, which have to be wash throughly until all the grease are gone before u started using the canister..

2nd suspect murder, u didnt clean your new medias properly which could possibly has contamination..bad bacterias or impurities..

3rdly, don't tell me that when u introduce ur new canister, u do 100% water change?

Since u didnt provide enough info, these are few mistake that i could point out..


Added on April 2, 2012, 1:51 pm
bro..based on what u've explain..

1) ure too impatient..though u might know the risk on what ure doing, still ure rushing on things..

2) with the old water still in there while u only introduce a canister filter, that wouldn't even harm your aro a bit..old water, new medias, i see that as no risk towards ur fish..your tank only 1 arowana, even if the ammonia level starts to climb, it wouldnt be this quick to kill ur aro..so if ure saying install new canister kill ur aro is wrong..doesn't make sense..

3) so, old water, new medias, new canister..ur aro died within hours..why?

Simple, there gotta be some grease in the new canister, which have to be wash throughly until all the grease are gone before u started using the canister..

2nd suspect murder, u didnt clean your new medias properly which could possibly has contamination..bad bacterias or impurities..

3rdly, don't tell me that when u introduce ur new canister, u do 100% water change?

Since u didnt provide enough info, these are few mistake that i could point out..
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the old water is ok..i guess its combination of bad choice and bad decision..bad choice and bad decision to straight use the canister pump without cleaning it thoroughly..i rinse it not as thorough as im suppose to do..i didnt wash the media as the shop claim already clean it for me..ive done 20% wc not 100% but i guess whatever ive done so far is a great mistake which going to cost me my aro..finish setup the tank at 2 am..slept and woke up at 5am with my aro dead..3 hour is all it takes..i had ask for pigpig advice and follow on what he have advice..i have done a 100% wc..wash canister thoroughly and wash the media..add bacteria booster..put in 2 bandaraya..chlorine tester show negative..ph is normal..i release more fish.(neon tethra,beta fish,guppy,knife fish,tiger barp) to test the water..so far so good..all still alive and kicking..

i've learn my lesson..the hard and expensive way..(can i cry now after acting macho all the way)..

now finding ways to raise my funds..can i create a charity fund here?lol...

anyway thanks for the advice guys..


Added on April 2, 2012, 10:40 pm
QUOTE(jamzz @ Apr 2 2012, 09:00 PM)
All sifu here, i gt a question wana ask. Why the price of arowana drop so much? it saw quite a lot of ads that sell hb for only RM450 now? any sifu here can tell me wht happend to price drop?
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im not a sifu buy i guess its the economy rule..more demand but less supply equals to price hike..more supplies but less demand equals to price fall..maybe too many hb out there?i dunno..sifu's?any further comment?

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post Apr 3 2012, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(leggedy @ Apr 2 2012, 10:59 PM)
kent, tonite i will dream of catching butterfly in wonderland with u okay?    biggrin.gif
i would say mr.pigpig is on a few benchmark above me in terms of pro-ness..  thumbup.gif
over supply.. low demand..  but i notice the demand is slowly on the rise again..
yes, there is lotsa HB at rm450 now..  but a good piece of quality HB will still whoop approx rm650+/-  , if u know how to identify then u will agree with me..    tongue.gif
patient bro..ur water still haven't done cycling and yet u already rush to add so many more fishes..

patient patient patient..    rolleyes.gif
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Haha..tester fish bro..im following pigpig advice..ysterday went to see aro ..nice..but i kept the eagerness in me..not buying anything and let my friend bought 1 n me going home empty handed..after all no point of buying a nw one n let it die..as per dis morning..nothing died yet so i guess its ok..i'll leave aqua for d bacteria to bloom..
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post Apr 3 2012, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(leggedy @ Apr 3 2012, 08:16 AM)
slowly bro..and i believe nice piece of aro is quite hard to find..i havent seen any nice gold recently..if red, yes i found a few superb pieces..
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Hmm..im learning n doing something new..d waiting game..hope cn raise fund..maybe in few weeks to a month time i'll be able to gt a new aro..n all this tester fish will become d aro food..muhuhahahahaahaha(evil laugh)..hahahhaha


Added on April 3, 2012, 10:40 am
QUOTE(wmkr @ Apr 3 2012, 09:33 AM)
U need to take a break for a few week's to month's...but pls do come back to aro keeping.....
they are more good goldies out there.. you only need to know where to go... biggrin.gif
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No prob bro..i'll take a break..just waiting for d tank n money..anyway thanks to u..i hv few other alternative to gt good fish from..

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post Apr 3 2012, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(leggedy @ Apr 3 2012, 11:25 AM)
hmm..hidden message means goldie come find u? Lol..

I saw those picture that u posted bro..those core colour is nice, purplish..but i dont like..coz isn't clean enough..jz my personal opinion..until today i only saw twice..clean deep blue based..no horse shoe..with thin deep gold frame..deep blue based + thin deep gold frame only at size 12inches, black tank..no horse shoe markind le..that fren of mine he sold 8pieces to one guy at rm6k..those were crossback bb..after i saw those..i went outside see those with horse shoe marking, potong steam man..

Then another juvenile i saw with clean core of bb but thick frame..that was back at pandan indah 168..he put the price rm7888..but according to bro kent, he sold at 5k+..

Clean bb with thin ring..must cost a bomb..

Jz my personal opinion bro..i dun mean anything bad..
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post Apr 6 2012, 10:12 AM

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To do tanning for mgbb how many light is required for best result..i thought 1 high intensity is sufficient..

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QUOTE(leggedy @ Apr 6 2012, 12:33 PM)
no problem bro..do update us here..


Added on April 6, 2012, 12:38 pm
there is a big differences in btwn tanning a golden arowana and wtt a golden aro..

I doubt if there is any LFS out there could explain this and direct u to use which light is much proper for what usage and will bring what kinda outcome..

I dont get to explain to u here, unless i got the product in hand..and explainin in words is a pain the ass..hehe..

Wait till when i open up my LFS, then u come visit me.. *wink*


Added on April 6, 2012, 12:42 pm
no problem bro..

Be sure to :
- maintain temperature at 34 (most important)
- no air bubble (important)
- low power water pump shoot away from aro
- no feeding until that aro recovered, continue without feeding for another 2weeks
- salt at 1liter of water with 1gram of salt.
- off lights
- do not frighten ur aro, do not touch it.

Best of luck!
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The lfs advice me to just turn it on 24 hour..but then no proper explaination..i saw dome breeder use 2..n our friend here use 4..am i missing anything here?

Ur opening lfs?great..when n where?

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