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 AS1M/ASM/ASW2020/ASN/ASB and other PNB funds V3, lending your money to the government

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post Aug 19 2013, 08:46 AM

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basically the lowest hit for all product is 5.00% for the past 10 years, any lower than 5 %?
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post Aug 19 2013, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 19 2013, 10:46 AM)
Extract from ASNB latest master prospectus for ASW2020:-

Approved fund size : 16.615 bil units
In circulation : 15.85 bil unit

Assume they declare 6.80% dividend, a total of 1.07 bil units must be issue
Add to existing in circulation = 16.9278 bil units, alredy exceeds approved fund size

Did ASNB announce d increase in approved fund size for ASW2020?
Otherwise they need to declare 4.82% dividend in order not to xceed approved fund size
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this is 1 of the reason the fund size keep increasing per year. but this is not the "increase" size, so, no new investment is allow given that all the extra size is full filled by the interest....
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post Aug 19 2013, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 19 2013, 11:34 AM)
I understand right now no new investment is allow (even though RM1.00)
But my Question is not answer yet
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zzz

they won't increase fund size unless they announce it. the reason that the fund size increase by year is that the dividen paid, but not the announced increment... If not mistaken. Because i noticed the increasing of ASM too, but no new investment allowed...
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post Aug 19 2013, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 19 2013, 05:20 PM)
You can go personally to PM or ASNB branch all over Malaysia to "try & error", just forget about the online thing because it already stated in their website the fund is fully subscribe (as lucifah told "only AS1M and ASB are available from the dropdown menu")

p/s: if you read previous pages post, got people managed to get ASW & AS1M units (non-bumi).
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Me and you also got brows.gif
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post Aug 20 2013, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(500Kmission @ Aug 19 2013, 11:40 PM)
wa..., cant believe you have managed to get ASW, can you teach what method you have used? just go ASNB? how many time you go?
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I got is ASM...

U working? If yes, than very hard.... because now I free, so line open (0915) i ad in post office. Try and try only... normally will got 50-100MYR per day if lucky....
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post Aug 20 2013, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 20 2013, 03:07 PM)
don't tell to people, then they "sapu all" at PM or ASNB branch  brows.gif

Just joking  biggrin.gif
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today go check ASM, no more liao......... sad.gif
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post Aug 21 2013, 06:58 AM

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QUOTE(500Kmission @ Aug 20 2013, 08:12 PM)
what i mean is for those people dont have passbook, he managed to get new issue, no top up.
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Impossible. Unless the person is just saying or he got pipeline.
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post Aug 21 2013, 09:20 AM

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For those who are going to start a new acc for ASG, report it here if you success.

All agent here not allowed us to do it.

New passbooks had arrive, but the particular printer to do it haven't.


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post Aug 21 2013, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 21 2013, 01:44 PM)
Looks like we can xpect min 6.80% or higher  thumbup.gif
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2014 are the year i worried for... don't why got that feeling
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post Aug 21 2013, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 21 2013, 02:30 PM)
What sort of feeling, sixth sense?
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Maybe history affect.

2008, GE 12

2013, GE 13

we can see thats a dramatically drop in 2009 for all funds....
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post Aug 21 2013, 07:40 PM

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ASW2020 :

2007 - 8.00
2008 - 7.00
2009 - 6.30

ASM :
2007 - 6.80
2008 - 7.80
2009 - 6.25

ASG - P :
2007 - 6.50
2008 - 7.00
2009 - 5.50

ASG - K :
2007 - 6.75
2008 - 7.25
2009 - 6.00

ASG - P :
2007 - 6.25
2008 - 6.75
2009 - 5.00


Hope the crisis will not happen.....


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post Aug 21 2013, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 21 2013, 07:44 PM)
meanwhile ASB is immune to political turmoils...

Year  Dividend (sen)  Bonus (sen)  Total (sen)
1990  8.00  6.00  14.00
1991  8.50  4.00  12.50
1992  7.50  5.00  12.50
1993  9.00  4.50  13.50
1994  9.50  4.50  14.00
1995  10.00  3.00  13.00
1996  10.25  3.00  13.25
1997  10.25  1.25  11.50
1998  8.00  2.50  10.50
1999  8.50  1.50  10.00
2000  9.75  2.00  11.75
2001  7.00  3.00  10.00
2002  7.00  2.00  9.00
2003  7.25  2.00  9.25
2004  7.25  2.00  9.25
2005  7.25  1.75  9.00
2006  7.30  1.25  8.55
2007  8.00  1.00  9.00
2008  7.00  1.75  8.75
2009  7.30  1.25  8.55
2010  7.50  1.25  8.75
2011  7.65  1.15  8.80
2012  7.75  1.15  8.90
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Yes, there is.
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post Aug 21 2013, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 21 2013, 08:45 PM)
So they "upgrading & changing" the ASG passbook & account, just like previous ASN3. They change the ASN3 passbook & gave new account number for all unit-holders.
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taking how long for the ASN3 last time?

this is like a month already.
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post Aug 21 2013, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 21 2013, 09:10 PM)
I can't remember how long, maybe few months  hmm.gif
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doh.gif doh.gif

bery slow @@
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post Aug 22 2013, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 21 2013, 10:58 PM)
Amanah Mutual launches 2 funds worth RM550m

Amanah Mutual Bhd (AMB), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Amanah Saham Nasional Bhd (ASNB), which in turn is a wholly-owned unit of Permodalan Nasional Bhd (PNB), launched its multi-class series of AMB Value Trust Fund (AMBVTF) and AMB Dana Arif (AMBDA) worth RM550 million.

The launch of AMBVTF involved two multi-class series in US dollar-denominated for retail investor (AMBVTF B-USD) as well as institutional investor (AMBVTF C-USD) and one multi-class in ringgit for corporate institution (AMBVTF C-MYR).

AMBDA also launched one multi-class in ringgit-denominated for institutional investors (AMBDA C-MYR).

"These four multi-class series can be subscribed by Malaysians as well as foreigners residing in Malaysia," said PNB chairman cum AMB chairman Tun Ahmad Sarji Abdul Hamid.

"The multi-class is an innovative structure that gives AMB the flexibility to design funds that better meet the varying needs and preferences of different investors, in terms of the fees and charges imposed, the currency in which it is denominated, the distribution policy and simultaneously helps to broaden market reach," he told reporters after launching the funds here today.

The classes introduced can be denominated in different currencies, therefore investors holding foreign currencies can now invest directly in a class of units denominated in that foreign currency without first having to convert their funds into ringgit.

AMBVTF is a capital growth fund launched in 2003 and its objective is to provide investors with capital growth through investments in securities while minimising the risk in the medium to long term.

AMBVTF provides investors with an alternative approach when investing in equity markets.

Meanwhile, AMBDA is a bond fund launched in 2004 with the objective of providing a steady appreciation of the net asset value with a regular flow of income to investors through investments in debt securities that are permissible under syariah principles.
http://www.ambmutual.com.my/
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what is this about @@ i can't understand

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post Aug 22 2013, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 22 2013, 06:02 PM)
I can't say much.

If you really want the answer, do e-mail ASNB for clarification.  If you get a proper explanation, do please post here for everyone reference  icon_rolleyes.gif
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LOL better don't la.

emailed 1 month ago, never got reply.


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post Aug 23 2013, 07:25 AM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 22 2013, 11:01 PM)
When as1m open for subscription, a lot of people have doubt. Some people spreading negative rumour about the fund. The "famous" one is the 4% p.a dividend rate  doh.gif  shakehead.gif
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yea. that time don't know why a lot of moron. maybe they spread the bad thing about AS1M, but they themselves put in massive money. LOL

and maybe they look at the prospectus saying the fund manager "may" make it having sale charge.

but now, no more units left. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

however, 1 thing i must say, the risk is still there.
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post Aug 23 2013, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 23 2013, 10:59 AM)
Agreed
Anyway lets hope they declare 7.16% (additional 0.56% as compared to 6.60% in Yr 2012) to coincide with d 56th Merdeka celebration smile.gif
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lets see if the crisis did hit MY or not... if yes, need see 2014, how it dropped...

did you see the post of mine that gave the comparison of year 2007 2008 2009 of ASM, ASW and ASG?
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post Aug 23 2013, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 23 2013, 11:54 AM)
Of coz I read
Very informative
I'm a subscriber of Chinese proverb : "Chan King Yoong Yow" rclxm9.gif
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take not that 2008 is not even the real hit.... but is effect after GE and slight crisis....

historical dividend on 97/98 can't be obtained excluding ASN, ASB ( earlier existence )... ASB drop .5, however ASN increase 1.0 after 98...

but both of them did drop after 08....

haiz...


BTW, i am chinese too, but how come i don't know what is Chan King Yoong Yow? Can type it in chinese character ?
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post Aug 23 2013, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 23 2013, 03:26 PM)
The person / parties spreading the rumour are the one putting more money there (bcoz wanna eliminate competition for the available units) 

There's risk in every investment, the only difference is how much / high  smile.gif
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Very very very true.

But somehow, anyhow, the virus is spread-ed. LOL

Like your sig,

" be greedy when everyone is fear, be fear when everyone is greedy "

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